metint

Need a frank answer...

Diamond gloss guaranteed for 1 year... how well does paint protection film hold up on this? Word has it that a coating that is the rave is also stirring up concern with PPF businesses because it does not allow the material to stick to the paint?

Are you or anyone else able to shed light on this?



bandit

There are afew paint sealants that will last a year,One coat though will not work usually and if acrylic type you may need 24 hours between coats.Also stuff that refers to teflon and such type ingredients do nothing for long term endurance but makes product go on and off easier.Be smart and apply every 4 months just to be safe and remember to keep the paint truely in good shape wash a minimum of once a week after cleaning,There is no substitute for a once or twice a week hand wash or I prefer Laser wash with no brushes! also if using wax do once a month if not in a friendly enviroment.

AAEGulfCoast

No one was chased out. I have diamond gloss which is a one application process along with clearshield and they work seamlessly. The diamond gloss in bonded to the surface. I know what you are talking about with the lack of bonding due to some coatings ability to "move" which is actually their ability to come off. Diamond gloss and PPF is a fine combo. For more info on diamond gloss check out www.ziebart.com or www.autoappearanceexperts.com and yes the second address is ridiculously large.

AAEGulfCoast

bandit is 100% correct on this without a doubt. Diamond gloss may be a good product and I know that for a fact but you still have to wash the car. No product is a miracle product. Diamond gloss being a polymer is not the answer to all automotive protective needs. In fact it will NOT prevent scratching in the sense of a deep dig into the paint. Only stones to a degree and other elements like bugs, tree sap, sand, etc. I hope this helps. And Tintdude you have a pretty cool forum. Sorry about the earlier spat but I think it was enjoyed by all

metint

Okay TB, TTS or AAEGC,

Here's more, apparently it isn't Diamond Gloss (a polymer):

It is a silicone base product used on the paint to protect and shine. It either comes from the factory or is applied at or for car dealerships, it is not cheap, but it hinders graphics and paint protection film products in sticking to the paint because of its silicone chemistry.

Have you run into it. How can one ready it for paint protection film, stripes or graphics? Is there a way around it? What is it?



Thanks

AAEGulfCoast

As frightening as it sounds Kerosene will strip it off quite quickly. We have a product by a different name but it is Kerosene.

thetintshop

if you wash it with dawn, a couple times, then run a clay bar over it, it will be gone. this is what i do with new ones before putting zaino on it. i would think kerosene would work fine for doing a small area for graphics or paint protection.

bandit

also almost all paint sealants and waxs will have a degree of silicone for xtra durability and shine,the above will work and also the sell at any auto store a Prep All wax and silicone remover type product if you want to do it with a body shop product they use before painting,Guarantee clearcoat safe even for novice

AAEGulfCoast

Oh yeah hehe oops. If you are using Kerosene it is VITAL to make sure ALL is removed and you CANNOT let it dry onto the surface.

AAEGulfCoast

Also no smoking while doing so. KABOOM&

Tint Guru

Not quite

Diamond Gloss proprietary product by Ziebart and is a SOLVENT based polyemer. If you were to see the product looks like water and smells like a petrolium product. There are no silicones or wax in it. In fact, for it to be applied properly, any polish used before applying it has to be silicone free with no fillers . Because D.G. is a solvent blend it will remove any fillers that may hide swirls or scratches and effect how well it will bond to the paint.

Being a true hard shell coating because there are no fillers silicone or solvents, it is difficult to remove. Most waxs and paint sealants off the shelf are soft coatings ie..silicone, teflon, carnuba, and surfactants. Personally I have never heard of Kerosene removing D.G. or any other solvent removing it after it cures. ( believe me I have tried ) I do know that another application can remove it while it is fresh, polishing it with a medium duty polish or Clay bar can remove it.

If I were to apply PPF or graphics over it I would use a medium duty sillicone free polish to remove it.