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#1 Lord_of_the_Tints

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  06 August 2008 - 06:02 PM

I´m new here, and I have read in many posts that you guys use baby shampoo as I use dish washing detergent(I was taught this way). Can anyone please explain to me the down sides of detergent and the ups of baby shampoo?
I want to give the shampoo a try, should I stay away from any specifics?
Thanks.
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#2 WearTheFoxHat

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  06 August 2008 - 06:10 PM

What? ..............soap? ...............baby 'poo?.......... dang ... I was taught to thoroughly lick the adhesive and place it right in the corner and press it all over leaving no bubbles.
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#3 TINTZEUS

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  06 August 2008 - 06:26 PM

lick it and stick it............... :dunno


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#4 Lord_of_the_Tints

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  06 August 2008 - 06:29 PM

Seriously, I have been tinting for 5 years, and the detergent had worked just fine.
just wanted some input about the pros and cons from people that have been around for longer.
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  06 August 2008 - 06:36 PM

I'm new here too saw a thread with some ingredient list for 'poo and it went on about glycerin being a not good thing for adhesion. Anyone recalling the thread and posting a link would help give him an idea....
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#6 Lord_of_the_Tints

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  06 August 2008 - 06:38 PM

I'm new here too saw a thread with some ingredient list for 'poo and it went on about glycerin being a not good thing for adhesion. Anyone recalling the thread and posting a link would help give him an idea....



Thank you. Gotta go baby shampoo shopping tomorrow.
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  06 August 2008 - 09:45 PM

I'm new here too saw a thread with some ingredient list for 'poo and it went on about glycerin being a not good thing for adhesion. Anyone recalling the thread and posting a link would help give him an idea....



Thank you. Gotta go baby shampoo shopping tomorrow.


Baby shampoo has glycerin in it. It's all a matter of preference I think. A lot will say degreaser is bad, some will say glycerin is bad but really both work fine. I use both, whatever is available at the time.
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  07 August 2008 - 04:56 AM

Well CPF recommends Dirt off as an install solution for 90% of their FG films. Works great for me, never changed except when I use Huper or any film with a sticky back, then I use baby J&J shampoo... I use D/O for madico films, sunscape, llumar, and any other TACK FREE or CDF

Hope this helps...
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  07 August 2008 - 05:14 AM

one word.........."search"
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  07 August 2008 - 05:57 AM

For water activated adhesives you should not be using dish soap. Dish soap's pH is basic. That will delay the bonding process.

X-100 (dirt-off) is acidic and promotes bonding faster. Film-On and baby shampoo are neutral in pH and can also be used on CDF/CDA/WAA/etc type films. I use X-100 on all dry adhesives except films containing real silver and bronze films.

For pressure sensitive films dish soap can lessen the bond strength. I've been testing this out on autos and it does help the film come off easier when removing it.
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  07 August 2008 - 11:59 AM

we have been through this many times. when theres a menbrane of soapy water just chillin between the tint and glass for a few days baking in the sun , what would u rather have, degreasing agents or baby tested tear free slip.

I got the perfect example...

theres a guy that I used to tint with... we used the same film...SP. I recognize the legal stickers all over the place yet can always tell if he or I tinted it b/c he always put the stickers higher than mine. these are 07' cars/trucks, and yet some of his jobs have terrible distortion problems while mine still look very good. So there we have a control b/c we used the same film. only difference is the slip solution...he used joy, I used jnj. yall can say what yall want...I know for a fact that detergents are bad for window film.

Edited by thatsnappyguy, 07 August 2008 - 12:06 PM.

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#12 Lord_of_the_Tints

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  07 August 2008 - 02:48 PM

we have been through this many times. when theres a menbrane of soapy water just chillin between the tint and glass for a few days baking in the sun , what would u rather have, degreasing agents or baby tested tear free slip.

I got the perfect example...

theres a guy that I used to tint with... we used the same film...SP. I recognize the legal stickers all over the place yet can always tell if he or I tinted it b/c he always put the stickers higher than mine. these are 07' cars/trucks, and yet some of his jobs have terrible distortion problems while mine still look very good. So there we have a control b/c we used the same film. only difference is the slip solution...he used joy, I used jnj. yall can say what yall want...I know for a fact that detergents are bad for window film.



I have never noticed any distortion on my films, but it could be because I had nothing to compare it with. Thanks again guys, yeah, I know I should have researched a littler before starting this topic.
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