Snapping door windows Options

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:27 PM

[VO|TRON]

nice tip, im not an auto guy but sounds like it would help.

[Mdog]

that is EXACTLY the way i do it except for bugs

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:28 PM

[GeneralTint]

I am trying to picture this but don't think i understand, a vid would be awesome!!! Thanks for the tip though!!!

[TINTZEUS]

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:28 PM

[GeneralTint]

dude, please post a vid if you have it!!! i am curious but i stupid, i still don't understand!!!

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:28 PM

[GeneralTint]

Cool, i cant wait for the vid, sounds like an excelent tip!!!

[BIG E]

dude, please post a vid if you have it!!! i am curious but i stupid, i still don't understand!!!

He is just preshrinking the bottom of the film on his peeler. Nice tip BTY!

[MidcoastMW]

Great tip, I shall try it!!

[tintman Pa]

i dont do many door glasses that need shrunk............but will give it a try...i just usually hit them with a carded paper towel and a little heat to help dry them but we do remove panels so that sounds like a super tip for tinters who dont pull....

only question i have is why is it called snapping

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:28 PM

[Mdog]

The "down under shrink" is another name for this method.

[Mdog]

I made a video of this today i am uploading it to youtube right now

[Mdog]

With this method you dont have to have the film on the car to shrink it.

What you want to do is pull the film back slightly and blow heat behind and along the leading edge of the pattern. When you do this you "curl" the film.

When you go to install it the curl of the film compensates for the fingers you would have normally had, you just squeege the film down and it basically snaps into place a log the bottom when you install it.

This method is alot faster than taking each pattern to its window and shrinking it on the car.

This method takes about 5 to 10 seconds to do when you get good at it.

Here is a small video of me curling the film, you can see how it curls away from the window, when i push it down it snaps back into place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFT6MlhY45I

[TintDude]

Cool Vid dude

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:29 PM

[GeneralTint]

Cool,thanks for the vid, i'll give it a shot and see how much film i can screw up before i figure it out!!!!

[naughtydog]

I tried it today on a new audi A6 - worked like a champ!

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:29 PM

[naughtydog]

Spoke too soon...works well for me with Llumar ATR but I seem to overshrink the Madico Onyx...have to have a play and waste some film practising.

ND

[FilmBlazer]

Thanks for the tip I'll try that out... I was trained to shrink the film on the window raised up about 3 inches from the bottom so you can hard card the bottom edge flat to the glass. It works ok it seems, but there is often a need to re-shrink a little bit. Your technique should definitely cut down on debris for sure

[MidcoastMW]

Awesome!!!! It really helps to see it being done!. I will try!

[Johnnytint]

Nice Video!!

I do that same thing but rather than running the heat gun while its on the my cutting board i just run a little heat across the bottom edge before sizing up the window

EX

I make my vertical cuts and trim off any excess and leave an extra 1" or so on the bottom



Then run a little heat across the bottom edge you'll see it smooth out (stay about 2" from each end just heat the middle).



Then i cut the bottom edge at the gasket roll down the window cut the top transfer to my flat glass and trim up



Take note to the curling of the bottom edge. that with now snap to the glass when you squeege out the bottom. I prefer the term overshrinking. Dont know why

Also, in theory, that overshrinking causes the film to press against the bottom edge and will help the film bond to the glass and reduce the chance of getting a peeler.

Ive found the 75% of the cars I do you can roll down within 20 min of squeeging with little or no heating

[*tintgod *]

i have done this om my last couple of honda's that i tinted and it works great!!...thanks for the info guys..

This has been edited by tintgod: Mar 29 2007, 07:32 PM

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:29 PM

[FilmBlazer]

Tried this today for the first time on a Monte Carlo...

Worked like a charm. Great tip!

[tintinater]

I've started shrinking all my side windows on the rear window now, no more walking to each window to shrink, stick em on the roll around right next to the window, peel each one off, shrink it, then lay it it's respective seat, (as I do a "free-air peel"),...it definitely over shrinks it, I like to say it sucks itself to the window, kinda like a camaro back window wants to do....I got this from 1peece a while back,.. no one else has tried this?, I love it...I think it's quicker
I tried "curling", didn't like it, doesn't always work, then you still gotta mess with it....
And, when you shrink it on the rear window, it seems like the tint curls inward more naturally, keeping it off the sides.....
I don't know, but I've cut my time down to about an hour and fifteen minutes on most cars here as of late,(07 RL, couple of new camrys, 01 Lesabre, just a couple examples), and they're coming out clean, all the reasons I'd started removing panels are gone, just by overshrinking it....and I'm not trying to brag, just trying to help, it's all about making more money, but still put out an exceptional product.....

oh yeah.... I also got a bulldozer last week, that might have something do with time as well, ya think?... I'm such an idiot

This has been edited by tintinater: Apr 8 2007, 07:58 AM

[FilmBlazer]

I want to bone my bulldozer.

[OSU Pike]

I have been doing doors that way since late 94 early 95 and thats just the name we started calling it, because your not really shrinking the film per say your just curling the edge of it a little and snapping sounded better (like it would last) rather than curling which sounds like the film is curling off the glass

BTW Thanks for the TOTW Mr. TD

Curling?!? isnt that some reallyboring sport that they have in the olympics..i ant remember i always changed the channel

[Mdog]

I want to bone my bulldozer.

[true-tinter]

With this method you dont have to have the film on the car to shrink it.

What you want to do is pull the film back slightly and blow heat behind and along the leading edge of the pattern. When you do this you "curl" the film.

When you go to install it the curl of the film compensates for the fingers you would have normally had, you just squeege the film down and it basically snaps into place a log the bottom when you install it.

This method is alot faster than taking each pattern to its window and shrinking it on the car.

This method takes about 5 to 10 seconds to do when you get good at it.

Here is a small video of me curling the film, you can see how it curls away from the window, when i push it down it snaps back into place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFT6MlhY45I

thanks for the video tm thanks for the tip never heard of till now but look like it will save me some time

[ClassOnGlass]

hey hey hey.....i have a betta way to do that it works mint cut out ur window and set it up like u normally would set it for a hard card shrink ...then just pull up the bottom edge across the whole bottom edge of the window and curl the edge under when u lay it back down it should look like a smile then its shrunk ...never had a finger pop up since i been shrinkin like that and it take about a min to shrink out all 4 doors and quaters ps i started to shrink the rears like that also and no stress marks on lexus and so on

[MarcoLb55]

hey hey hey.....i have a betta way to do that it works mint cut out ur window and set it up like u normally would set it for a hard card shrink ...then just pull up the bottom edge across the whole bottom edge of the window and curl the edge under when u lay it back down it should look like a smile then its shrunk ...never had a finger pop up since i been shrinkin like that and it take about a min to shrink out all 4 doors and quaters ps i started to shrink the rears like that also and no stress marks on lexus and so on

Post some pics of this. please

[TINTZEUS]

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:29 PM

[tint45]

I still don't really get it, but then, I'm kind of an idiot. Maybe I'm just overthinking it, but how do you know that you're not overshrinking, or undershrinking, or burning the edged or... (this line of thinking, BTW, is part of the reason my installs are soooo slooooow.

unless I read my own tip wrong

Spontaneous illiteracy?

[mjs]

thats exactly what this tip is, except off of your spray/peel board

unless I read my own tip wrong

I just invented another way to do it... It's pretty much the same tip as 237's, but with blue Times New Roman font:

Ok after reading the thread on shrinking or stretching doors I wanted to post a video of this as it is so much easier to watch and understand than it is to try to read and understand but I don't have a video camera, so I will do my best.

Cut out your door as normal then take it over to your spray glass and hang liner out but upside down, turn on your heat gun and lift the bottom edge of the film away from the glass (curl it) and run the heat gun along the bottom about a 1/4 inch away from the edge of the film make a couple of quick swipes with the heat gun and let the film go back on the glass, your bottom edge should lay flat and 1/4" up you should have "fingers" with the film on flat glass.
Those are the same fingers you would have to normaly shrink on the door now go prep your window and install the film once you get this down you will not need to shrink anything, just snap the bottom edge and the film will lay perfect on the door glass

Then you will not have the discoloration of where you shrunk fingers and you won't have adhesive faliure "on some films" from streatching because where you put the heat on the bottom 1/4" should be tucked below the rubber anyway thats how I do it.

I hope this makes sense to everyone I will try and find someone with a video camera and put up a video

[solarspot]

[tint45]

I just invented another way to do it... It's pretty much the same tip as 237's, but with blue Times New Roman font:

You are the p-chop master.

[naughtydog]

I've started shrinking all my side windows on the rear window now, no more walking to each window to shrink, stick em on the roll around right next to the window, peel each one off, shrink it, then lay it it's respective seat, (as I do a "free-air peel"),...it definitely over shrinks it, I like to say it sucks itself to the window, kinda like a camaro back window wants to do....I got this from 1peece a while back,.. no one else has tried this?, I love it...I think it's quicker
I tried "curling", didn't like it, doesn't always work, then you still gotta mess with it....
And, when you shrink it on the rear window, it seems like the tint curls inward more naturally, keeping it off the sides.....
I don't know, but I've cut my time down to about an hour and fifteen minutes on most cars here as of late,(07 RL, couple of new camrys, 01 Lesabre, just a couple examples), and they're coming out clean, all the reasons I'd started removing panels are gone, just by overshrinking it....and I'm not trying to brag, just trying to help, it's all about making more money, but still put out an exceptional product.....

oh yeah.... I also got a bulldozer last week, that might have something do with time as well, ya think?... I'm such an idiot

Can you talk me through the free-air peeling please?

ND

This has been edited by naughtydog: Sep 22 2007, 01:32 PM

[tintman237]

This has been edited by tintman237: Feb 29 2008, 09:30 PM

[ClassOnGlass]

we timed shrinking the 4 windows and 2 quarters this way it took about 1min 10 sec to shrink the whole car its so much faster and never a finger or crease this way its the best man...