my suggestion to be, considered a totw Options

[1PEECBARETTA]

Dot matrix: the easiest solution to make them appear perfect. shrink apply and squeegee as normal. pull back the film on the matrix part, spray with a mix of 50/50 alchohol and water, lay film over the dots, let soak for 45 seconds or so , and squeegee out as normal. works like a motha

[MidcoastMW]

Wassup 1peec. long time no type man.

That tip sounds awesome, I'll give that a shot!!!

[naughtydog]

Sounds good...do you not get any comtamination from the lifting and reapplying?

I suppose this works best for windows with a large are of matrix at the top?

I would imagine it would be a bit fiddly for regular windows?

I will try it.

[GodofWarII]

i have a lot of newer hondas I do and of course people want the matrix and there brand new car to be perfect, i have a seperate sprayer with just water in it and do that same thing, flushing out the soap turns out great everytime

[TINTZEUS]

Nice tip....

The alcohol really loosens up the glue.....but dont use too much....the glue will just run off the film.

[blade]

this has been my method for awhile now instead of glue. but it doesn't work everytime. i fall back to the glue when it doesn't.

[willie]

Dot matrix: the easiest solution to make them appear perfect. shrink apply and squeegee as normal. pull back the film on the matrix part, spray with a mix of 50/50 alchohol and water, lay film over the dots, let soak for 45 seconds or so , and squeegee out as normal. works like a motha

this has been my method for awhile now instead of glue. but it doesn't work everytime. i fall back to the glue when it doesn't.

nice tip 1 peece
My question to both of you, is if it doesnt work all the time do you think its the different type of films or the matrix Thanks

[Mr paladin]

this has been my method for awhile now instead of glue. but it doesn't work everytime. i fall back to the glue when it doesn't.

I used this method untill I found out about glue

[tintman237]

The alcohol really loosens up the glue.....but dont use too much....the glue will just run off the film.

thats why I stopped doing it

[Tint Girl]

Thanks I'll have to give it a shot

[1PEECBARETTA]

nice tip 1 peece
My question to both of you, is if it doesnt work all the time do you think its the different type of films or the matrix Thanks

good question. I haven't tried it enough times to know. I know it works on a 02 Solara with Global qdp film

[FilmBlazer]

What percentage alcohol should I use? And what kind of glue are most of you using for the matrix? Something like probond geared specifically for tinting industry? I have heard glue sticks also work, I'm guessing the regular old office glue stick.

I use probond adhesive promoter, but would rather go without if this 50/50 solution does the job

[MidcoastMW]

well if its 50/50, thats 50% alchaol, 50% water.

[willie]

What percentage alcohol should I use? And what kind of glue are most of you using for the matrix? Something like probond geared specifically for tinting industry? I have heard glue sticks also work, I'm guessing the regular old office glue stick.

I use probond adhesive promoter, but would rather go without if this 50/50 solution does the job

elmers blue glue
Worked good on a ford fusion today with OTI film

[TINTDESIGNZ]

Nice tip....

The alcohol really loosens up the glue.....but dont use too much....the glue will just run off the film.

I dont use alcohol on matrix-kills the life of the film. I had a tinter that worked for me way back when that did this-it lead to alot of warrantee work!

[naughtydog]

I will ask again...do you only use this method with windows that have heavy matrix at the top?

I cant see how you can glue a back glass without getting contamination from lifting fim, applying glue etc.

I glue windows that can be removed or the matrix can be easily accessed , otherwise

[willie]

I dont use alcohol on matrix-kills the life of the film. I had a tinter that worked for me way back when that did this-it lead to alot of warrantee work!

so are you just glueing or do you have another trick up your sleeve

[GodofWarII]

I dont use alcohol on matrix-kills the life of the film. I had a tinter that worked for me way back when that did this-it lead to alot of warrantee work!

i heard the same thing..thats why its just water for me just to flush the slip solution away have you glue guyz out there ever considered the pain an R&R is when someon eglued the matrix not to mention if you put to much glue and squeedge it out it gets on the headliner and outside of the film thats just what i've noticed from having redo's from the other shop in town, they glued this ladys matrix...it still wasnt smooth looking, so after razorblading and scotchbrite the glue finally got out from between all those little dots and could tint it right. not noticing that there "blue goo" was stuffed under the headliner i was laying in the new piece and the goo got all over my sqeedgee and hence all over my newly laid peice of film man i hate glue

[TITAN500]

has anyone tried Rapid tac on the matrix?
just thinking outloud
I have been using aleens clear glue

[tintman237]

has anyone tried Rapid tac on the matrix?

Yep did it yesterday works OK

[Dr.Window]

I'm on the same way of thinking, water only on dot's no glue or wathever!
Works nice!
My way is
spray the center and leave a edge with nothing on it, then wen reching the edges go with pure water, it works ok with the Reflectiv films i use!

[*tintgod *]

i heard the same thing..thats why its just water for me just to flush the slip solution away have you glue guyz out there ever considered the pain an R&R is when someon eglued the matrix not to mention if you put to much glue and squeedge it out it gets on the headliner and outside of the film thats just what i've noticed from having redo's from the other shop in town, they glued this ladys matrix...it still wasnt smooth looking, so after razorblading and scotchbrite the glue finally got out from between all those little dots and could tint it right. not noticing that there "blue goo" was stuffed under the headliner i was laying in the new piece and the goo got all over my sqeedgee and hence all over my newly laid peice of film man i hate glue

the elmers blue glue is water soluble...its not any harder to remove then the glue that is left over from the film

This has been edited by tintgod: Apr 14 2007, 07:18 PM

[TITAN500]

i tried this today i used straight 91% isopropyl,OMG can you say glue snot?
next attempt i used 91% watered down to 70ish % i should have did a test on some scrap first with the straight 91% but i wasnt using my noggin.
worked great on a 04 malibu
i sanded with 4oo before just in case.
next car was a 04 maxima same thing only 1 spot where i didnt sand well and started turning white so glued that area. turned out great
im going to experiment with the strength of the solution till I get consistent results.
i think sanding lightly to take a little off the top of the dots helps and if you are careful it wont affect the antennea if it has one in the matrix.