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Thetintcenter
Comment Jan 11 2008, 08:07 AM
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I have been using a product for 3 years now and have never had a problem with peeling down from the dots. I use the Headlight Sealer solution on the dots. It dries clear and fills in all the dots for the film to stick. The sealer is from Liquid Resins, it's inexpensive and only takes a couple of minutes to set. It dries clear and is waterproof.
I'm sure any brand headlight sealer will work, but I've never used any other.
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blade
Comment Jan 11 2008, 08:35 AM
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does it brush on? spray on? what's the stuff you use? got a link?
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Thetintcenter
Comment Jan 11 2008, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE (blade @ Jan 11 2008, 10:35 AM) [*]578479[/*]
does it brush on? spray on? what's the stuff you use? got a link?



www.liquidresins.com

You apply it with a sponge paint brush - .25 cents each at hardware store. Or just a folded up Towel. It won't drip everywhere and is not slimy.
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thatsnappyguy
Comment Jan 11 2008, 09:27 AM
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i dont know.....the kiddy's blue glue aways worked for me. but i gotta give u credit for thinking of another product to use. hey what about clear silcone? i was thinking about trying that but i wanted to get some insight on it first.
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Thetintcenter
Comment Jan 11 2008, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (thatsnappyguy @ Jan 11 2008, 11:27 AM) [*]578492[/*]
i dont know.....the kiddy's blue glue aways worked for me. but i gotta give u credit for thinking of another product to use. hey what about clear silcone? i was thinking about trying that but i wanted to get some insight on it first.


I've tried silicone but nothing really sticks to it. It repels water and was really messy and took hours to dry.
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CajunTinter
Comment Jan 11 2008, 10:39 AM
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Is it odorless ?? dunno.gif dunno.gif
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Thetintcenter
Comment Jan 11 2008, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE (CajunTinter @ Jan 11 2008, 12:39 PM) [*]578509[/*]
Is it odorless ?? dunno.gif dunno.gif


Yes! There is no smell or at least a non offensive smell. You just brush it on...let it dry (1 or 2 min.) and then tint over it. It dries clear and has stayed clear on my car 04' Mustang for just over 3 years.
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TITAN500
Comment Jan 11 2008, 11:21 AM
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is it part #960?
1oz bottle for 50.00 and change? Fbigeyes.gif
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Thetintcenter
Comment Jan 11 2008, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:21 PM) [*]578523[/*]
is it part #960?
1oz bottle for 50.00 and change? Fbigeyes.gif


19.95 for 1 oz. does about 40 - 50 rear windows.

www.liquidresins.com
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TITAN500
Comment Jan 11 2008, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (Thetintcenter @ Jan 11 2008, 12:40 PM) [*]578528[/*]
19.95 for 1 oz. does about 40 - 50 rear windows.

www.liquidresins.com



can you give me the part #?
thanks thumb.gif
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Thetintcenter
Comment Jan 11 2008, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:42 PM) [*]578531[/*]
can you give me the part #?
thanks thumb.gif


There is no part# for this product it is called - 1 oz Headlight Restoration Clear Coat Solution.
Just click on the headlight link and scroll down.
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TITAN500
Comment Jan 11 2008, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (Thetintcenter @ Jan 11 2008, 12:54 PM) [*]578533[/*]
There is no part# for this product it is called - 1 oz Headlight Restoration Clear Coat Solution.
Just click on the headlight link and scroll down.


gotcha thumb.gif
thanks dood
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Key West
Comment Jan 12 2008, 02:13 PM
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Fbigeyes.gif Fbigeyes.gif DOOD! thats genius. Same theory as the BlueGlue, but neater!!! Ya got my vote so far if it comes up for TOTW!!!!
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naughtydog
Comment Jan 12 2008, 02:41 PM
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sounds good. I bet you could use it on all windows not just back windows at the top.

I will be ordering some.
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FilmBlazer
Comment Jan 12 2008, 04:59 PM
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Oh yeah! I'm on it!
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CleanCutter
Comment Jan 13 2008, 02:14 PM
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not bad .. only $2553.60 a gallon.

isn't this the same thing as 3M Edge Sealer (p/n 3950)? more or less? Clear resin, about $13.50 an 8oz can Used to use the 3M stuff back in the early 90's for dots all the time. When Filmhandler was just a tool seller, they used to sell the heck out of that stuff.

This has been edited by CleanCutter: Jan 13 2008, 02:18 PM
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Thetintcenter
Comment Jan 13 2008, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (CleanCutter @ Jan 13 2008, 04:14 PM) [*]579232[/*]
not bad .. only $2553.60 a gallon.

isn't this the same thing as 3M Edge Sealer? more or less? Clear resin. Used to use the 3M stuff back in the early 90's for dots all the time. When Filmhandler was just a tolld seller, they used to sell the heck out of that stuff.


So charge like you would for vinyl! $25.00 extra per car...Not bad either! Or you could call them and get a better price buying in bulk.
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FilmBlazer
Comment Jan 13 2008, 02:50 PM
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Good point, I'll try some CPFilms edge sealer on my own car to test it out thumb.gif
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TITAN500
Comment Jan 16 2008, 02:11 PM
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orderd some today, will report back once i try it on a 08 civic coupe......man i hope it works.
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naughtydog
Comment Jan 16 2008, 02:47 PM
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I will be interested in your results Titan. I am not sure if they ship to the UK.
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goldtooth
Comment Jan 17 2008, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 16 2008, 05:11 PM) [*]580324[/*]
orderd some today, will report back once i try it on a 08 civic coupe......man i hope it works.

beer.gif looking forward to the result thumb.gif
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kats2112
Comment Jan 20 2008, 10:18 PM
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Anybody remember that stuff " do-dot "? Had a brush in the lid? Smelled like contact cement?

We used to sing the song... Guess what smells like airplane glue? Do dot, Do dot! rollin.gif
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Mike S
Comment Mar 15 2008, 01:47 PM
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do you let the top of the film hang and dry first, like with the blue glue? Could you explain a little more how you apply it. This seems like a great tip thumb.gif
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naughtydog
Comment Mar 15 2008, 05:17 PM
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Paint it on, let it dry, apply film - Done. 2 coats works better.
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true-tinter
Comment Mar 15 2008, 05:26 PM
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this the stuff ..................dang that sure is a tiny bottle
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Mike S
Comment Mar 15 2008, 07:11 PM
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So squirt some on a simple bristle or foam brush, brush it on, let it dry then spray soap solution and install like normal?
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Thetintcenter
Comment Mar 16 2008, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (Mike S @ Mar 15 2008, 10:11 PM) [*]605216[/*]
So squirt some on a simple bristle or foam brush, brush it on, let it dry then spray soap solution and install like normal?


I usually wipe the dots with rubbing alcohol let dry. Then apply a small amount with foam brush covering the dots. Shrink your rear window as the heat will the solution dry faster then tint as usual. it dries waterproof and fills in the gaps of the dots. Sometimes you may need a second coat for thicker dots. thumb.gif
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Mdog
Comment Mar 18 2008, 05:14 AM
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This sounds like a cool idea thumb.gif
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sunslayer
Comment Mar 18 2008, 07:51 PM
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hows the taste compared to blue glue? all_coholic.gif
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tint_audiopros
Comment Mar 18 2008, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 16 2008, 01:11 PM) [*]580324[/*]
orderd some today, will report back once i try it on a 08 civic coupe......man i hope it works.


we've had good luck on these 08 civic coupes using nothing & doing nothing to prep the dots using qdp install film like normal then relifting the film only on the matrix re-wet and squeegee using only a yellow rubber wrapped in a towl. It gives you that released look everywhere like it lifted away from the dots (no complaints yet) but atleast its not sticking here & not there. We've never had good luck using glue on honda matrix dots. twocents.gif thumb.gif
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Sprinter
Comment Mar 23 2008, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (Thetintcenter @ Mar 16 2008, 09:00 PM) [*]605477[/*]
QUOTE (Mike S @ Mar 15 2008, 10:11 PM) [*]605216[/*]
So squirt some on a simple bristle or foam brush, brush it on, let it dry then spray soap solution and install like normal?


I usually wipe the dots with rubbing alcohol let dry. Then apply a small amount with foam brush covering the dots. Shrink your rear window as the heat will the solution dry faster then tint as usual. it dries waterproof and fills in the gaps of the dots. Sometimes you may need a second coat for thicker dots. thumb.gif

whats it look like when your done, does it look white or is all of it black looking as if you used the blue glue??
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Thetintcenter
Comment Mar 24 2008, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE (Sprinter @ Mar 23 2008, 08:40 PM) [*]607585[/*]
QUOTE (Thetintcenter @ Mar 16 2008, 09:00 PM) [*]605477[/*]
QUOTE (Mike S @ Mar 15 2008, 10:11 PM) [*]605216[/*]
So squirt some on a simple bristle or foam brush, brush it on, let it dry then spray soap solution and install like normal?


I usually wipe the dots with rubbing alcohol let dry. Then apply a small amount with foam brush covering the dots. Shrink your rear window as the heat will the solution dry faster then tint as usual. it dries waterproof and fills in the gaps of the dots. Sometimes you may need a second coat for thicker dots. thumb.gif

whats it look like when your done, does it look white or is all of it black looking as if you used the blue glue??


It finishes Black as if there weren't any dots at all. I've know I'm going to get told some things after I say this but here it goes. I tested out Glue sticks, blue glue, clear glue, etc. against the headlight sealant using UV lamp and the sealant never cracked or flaked, all the others did. I believe the reason is that the glues don't have a UV inhibitor to stop the break down of the glue.
The glue may work well in some areas where the sun isn't as bad as in Florida, Texas and the southern states.
This is in no way saying that the glue method doesn't look good (from the outside) I'm just asking how long will it last? dunno.gif
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wetintcars.com
Comment Sep 28 2009, 02:18 PM
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Okay, so now over a year has gone by since this was first posted.

Do any of these cars that anybody used the resin on still look good?

I'd like an update on this one.
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Brenter The Tint...
Comment Sep 28 2009, 07:16 PM
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I'm curious as well, I have lost all hope for a solution other than vinyl.
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wetintcars.com
Comment Oct 3 2009, 12:26 PM
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Looks like no one wants to comment on this one. dunno.gif
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TNTLady
Comment Oct 3 2009, 01:02 PM
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Yeah, hows it working folks? dunno.gif
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TintWizard
Comment Oct 3 2009, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE (wetintcars.com @ Sep 28 2009, 05:18 PM) [*]719362[/*]
Okay, so now over a year has gone by since this was first posted.

Do any of these cars that anybody used the resin on still look good?

I'd like an update on this one.



QUOTE (wetintcars.com @ Oct 3 2009, 03:26 PM) [*]720602[/*]
Looks like no one wants to comment on this one. dunno.gif



QUOTE (TNTLady @ Oct 3 2009, 04:02 PM) [*]720610[/*]
Yeah, hows it working folks? dunno.gif



They are too busy scrubbing the back windows down to post poking_someone_in_the_eye.gif Flaugh.gif
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TNTLady
Comment Oct 3 2009, 09:56 PM
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Flaugh.gif
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watchdaride
Comment Oct 4 2009, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Mar 18 2008, 08:21 PM) [*]606116[/*]
QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 16 2008, 01:11 PM) [*]580324[/*]
orderd some today, will report back once i try it on a 08 civic coupe......man i hope it works.


we've had good luck on these 08 civic coupes using nothing & doing nothing to prep the dots using qdp install film like normal then relifting the film only on the matrix re-wet and squeegee using only a yellow rubber wrapped in a towl. It gives you that released look everywhere like it lifted away from the dots (no complaints yet) but atleast its not sticking here & not there. We've never had good luck using glue on honda matrix dots. twocents.gif thumb.gif



Agree honda , bmw only problems . Glue solves the rest
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naughtydog
Comment Oct 4 2009, 01:55 PM
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I used it on quite a few cars and never had any back, I wanted it for just the small areas of matrix that border most windows, for very fussy customers.

It does work, but I found you needed 2 coats for the best effect.

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b7adh
Comment Oct 4 2009, 03:20 PM
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naughty - where did you get the glue. i would love to try it, what does it look like on cars such as corsa b and golf mk4 etc - does it still leave a white band.
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advancedsolarsol...
Comment Oct 4 2009, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (b7adh @ Oct 4 2009, 06:20 PM) [*]720733[/*]
naughty - where did you get the glue. i would love to try it, what does it look like on cars such as corsa b and golf mk4 etc - does it still leave a white band.


I used it before I got ill. It works great and dries so there isn't a white silver looking appearance around the dots. Here is the link to order it.

http://www.liquidresins.com/headlight-rest...tion-system.htm
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naughtydog
Comment Oct 5 2009, 02:58 AM
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It works OK, it can have a bit of a washed out look on the matrix, I think it looks better than a silver matrix though.
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b7adh
Comment Oct 5 2009, 03:25 PM
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anypics of cars that youve used it on and not used it on?
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naughtydog
Comment Oct 7 2009, 01:44 AM
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I used it yesterday - it worked like a champ!

I did a Vauxhall VXR8 - I think it's based on the Aussie Holden. I did'nt like the car.
Be careful heating the outside of the doors...smokin before you know it.

I used the resin on the back window - it has a similar setup to a 3 series BMW., I cut around the brake light as the brake light seemed to be screwed to the headlining - what a silly set-up.

I told the guy about pushing the damp matrix around the base of the brak light down in a few days

So hears a pic.



This has been edited by naughtydog: Oct 7 2009, 01:45 AM
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b7adh
Comment Oct 7 2009, 10:05 AM
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looks good, will it look the same as it dries out though? when it comes in again get another pic - i might get some of this and give it a whirl
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naughtydog
Comment Oct 7 2009, 11:34 AM
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On this car it looked awesome - he is coming back in a few days as the windows on this car had some crazy %&$# on the window, i had to use a lot of soap so I want to drop the windows for him.
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Jeff Rutherford ...
Comment Oct 7 2009, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (sunslayer @ Mar 18 2008, 10:51 PM) [*]606108[/*]
hows the taste compared to blue glue? all_coholic.gif



lol2.gif to funny...tell me your joking...reminds me of a preschool horror story i have from when i was a kid
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callwild
Comment Oct 12 2009, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE (b7adh @ Oct 4 2009, 11:20 PM) [*]720733[/*]
naughty - where did you get the glue. i would love to try it, what does it look like on cars such as corsa b and golf mk4 etc - does it still leave a white band.


What he says.
Did you buy it direct from the States?

This seems a better solution than glue for most UK car problems.
Glue works well on large areas of dot matrix with easy access but on most of the cars in the UK with a very narrow dot matrix, which is often combined with sliding the film behind interior trim, it is often impossible to lift the edge and apply glue.
This solution which can be applied first left to dry and then install the film as normal sounds good.
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naughtydog
Comment Oct 12 2009, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE (callwild @ Oct 12 2009, 04:45 AM) [*]722464[/*]
QUOTE (b7adh @ Oct 4 2009, 11:20 PM) [*]720733[/*]
naughty - where did you get the glue. i would love to try it, what does it look like on cars such as corsa b and golf mk4 etc - does it still leave a white band.


What he says.
Did you buy it direct from the States?

This seems a better solution than glue for most UK car problems.
Glue works well on large areas of dot matrix with easy access but on most of the cars in the UK with a very narrow dot matrix, which is often combined with sliding the film behind interior trim, it is often impossible to lift the edge and apply glue.
This solution which can be applied first left to dry and then install the film as normal sounds good.


I imported it directly from USA.

I went though a phase of using it a lot - it works but is the time it takes worth it? Can you charge for that time?
Not always!!

For a really fussy customer - if you can pre-empt them - it would be worth it.

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tint_audiopros
Comment Oct 12 2009, 04:14 PM
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why not use pro bond or rapid tac2 ?!
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naughtydog
Comment Oct 13 2009, 01:53 AM
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QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Oct 12 2009, 05:14 PM) [*]722603[/*]
why not use pro bond or rapid tac2 ?!


I have heard of people using rapid tac 2 - does it work well?

Tell us more please.
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wetintcars.com
Comment Oct 13 2009, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Oct 12 2009, 07:14 PM) [*]722603[/*]
why not use pro bond or rapid tac2 ?!


I have had an awful time locating that "Pro-Bond" stuff. I hear about it on here all the time.
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tint_audiopros
Comment Oct 13 2009, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (naughtydog @ Oct 13 2009, 01:53 AM) [*]722680[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Oct 12 2009, 05:14 PM) [*]722603[/*]
why not use pro bond or rapid tac2 ?!


I have heard of people using rapid tac 2 - does it work well?

Tell us more please.


prep dots with steelwool clean & tint like usual, squeegee all solution out from under film. Pull top down wipe dots with towell, spray rapid tac2 (comes in a spray bottle) let set for a minute & finish.

QUOTE (wetintcars.com @ Oct 13 2009, 08:18 AM) [*]722728[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Oct 12 2009, 07:14 PM) [*]722603[/*]
why not use pro bond or rapid tac2 ?!


I have had an awful time locating that "Pro-Bond" stuff. I hear about it on here all the time.


Fellers worldwide 1800-654-8405, same technique as above & it works better. I prefer the pro bond. Neither of the 2 are as messy as glue beer.gif
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callwild
Comment Nov 13 2009, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Oct 13 2009, 05:22 PM) [*]722755[/*]
prep dots with steelwool clean & tint like usual, squeegee all solution out from under film. Pull top down wipe dots with towell, spray rapid tac2 (comes in a spray bottle) let set for a minute & finish.


Seen this described many times but it is impossible to do this on the 1 cm strip around the edge of a back glass or where often the edge of the film may be slid in behind cloth trim.
It is in this sort of situation where an alternative such as treating the dots prior to film installation would be a big help.
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after13yrs
Comment Nov 15 2009, 05:43 PM
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Well i waited to here for some good results since i first seen the post. i still dont feel confident that it is the end all be all but i will order and give it a go. i just really want to know 2 things. 1-prep glass before you apply it? and 2- has anyone been using it on 1/4 glass dotsand were the results good??
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