The Ryk Shrink, my way of shrinking Options

[lilDetails]

Well all, here is my video. Not a great quality, but it should show what I am doing. Heat and air under the film to hold it up and warm the underside. Then heat on the top to get the shrink. Check the time code and find that it is about 20 seconds per pocket and that makes for less than 2 minutes. Car is an 07 Nissan Altima. Not totally new but just a bit different. I have done 07ish Neon back glasses top and bottoms with the heat over and under. No pulling the top on them...

[blade]

that is different. shrinking under and over at the same time. haven't done it. i'm a one heatgun kinda guy pretty cool though. pretty quick too.

This has been edited by blade: Jan 28 2008, 08:47 PM

[lilDetails]

just one of those weird thoughts that worked out. James, shwusyrtnts, was blown away. It worked on the Global HP as well....and was only a few seconds slower on each pocket.

keeps film off of the glass and the film doesn't cool off.

[tintman237]

Kinda similar to how I do it, but I only use 1 gun

[CajunTinter]

Kinda similar to how I do it, but I only use 1 gun

IMO, that's exactly the way you do it, but you don't heat up the paint on the car as much...

[willie]

Kinda similar to how I do it, but I only use 1 gun

IMO, that's exactly the way you do it, but you don't heat up the paint on the car as much...

I thought he wet shrunk 90% of his back windows he did it wet in Marshall with the top of the finger sealed
Did you guys do another car while I was off with the ladies

[tintman237]

I thought he wet shrunk 90% of his back windows he did it wet in Marshall with the top of the finger sealed
Did you guys do another car while I was off with the ladies

I do, do most of em wet, but with the same style

[lilDetails]

I use to do it with one gun and blow under then work up and over. Let the pocket "close" off to hold the air, but this is even smoother than that and the heat is not on the paint long enough to matter. Look at the time. 20 seconds or less on each part.....and if you notice I lay my hand on the film immediately after the gun comes off. Not on it long enough to get it HOT....

Don't knock it until you try it...

[ClassOnGlass]

cool

[willie]

I do, do most of em wet, but with the same style

so you dont hit the top of the finger and seal it anymore
I had been playing around with this method while I was bored

[CajunTinter]

I use to do it with one gun and blow under then work up and over. Let the pocket "close" off to hold the air, but this is even smoother than that and the heat is not on the paint long enough to matter. Look at the time. 20 seconds or less on each part.....and if you notice I lay my hand on the film immediately after the gun comes off. Not on it long enough to get it HOT....

Don't knock it until you try it...

Not knocking you at all dude... I liked it...

[tintman237]

I use to do it with one gun and blow under then work up and over. Let the pocket "close" off to hold the air, but this is even smoother than that and the heat is not on the paint long enough to matter. Look at the time. 20 seconds or less on each part.....and if you notice I lay my hand on the film immediately after the gun comes off. Not on it long enough to get it HOT....

Don't knock it until you try it...

not knocking it, I was just saying similar style

so you dont hit the top of the finger and seal it anymore
I had been playing around with this method while I was bored

ya, I still seal it

[willie]

not knocking it, I was just saying similar style



ya, I still seal it

Ahhh fooey I'm going to bed, now I'm all confused.

[tinterjim]

Kinda similar to how I do it, but I only use 1 gun

Same here.

I will give it a shot tho. Who says you can't teach an old dog a new trick.

[ClassOnGlass]

Ahhh fooey I'm going to bed, now I'm all confused.

thats it willie is off to the drool chair to dream about the giant winning the supebowl

[Bundy Bear]

I like that. As mentioned, I too heat under the film when it starts to stick, but I never thought of doing it the whole time with another gun. And so the Ryk shrink was born

"There's the wrong way and the Ryk way"

[ClassOnGlass]

I like that. As mentioned, I too heat under the film when it starts to stick, but I never thought of doing it the whole time with another gun. And so the Ryk shrink was born

"There's the wrong way and the Ryk way"

[CajunTinter]

thats it willie is off to the drool chair to dream about the giants possibly covering the 12.5 point spread in the supebowl

The real question is this... Is the point spread bigger than the freaking gap in Strahan's front teeth???

[kramster]

What film you using?

[*tintgod *]

pretty cool..i will have to give that a try...why dont you do the top part like you do the botton?

[darkdan]

hot bubble shrink.........

[TINTING AZ]

holy shizzle i like that technique with constant heat on both sides i always blow heat under n curl the bottom but that was the shizzz props to lil details
tip of the week nomination

[ClassOnGlass]

holy shizzle i like that technique with constant heat on both sides i always blow heat under n curl the bottom but that was the shizzz props to lil details
tip of the week nomination

i will second it for tow its a good one

[tinterjim]

What film you using?

I believe he said it was Lulu ATR.

[General Sun Shie...]

cool .

[mas]

holy shizzle i like that technique with constant heat on both sides i always blow heat under n curl the bottom but that was the shizzz props to lil details
tip of the week nomination

tip of the week

[thatsnappyguy]

i must say that is something that im gonna try tomorrow. ill let u know how it is with global qdp.

[tintguy7]

good 1.

[vzla-tint]

why dont you do the top part like you do the botton?

TOTW anyway

[Mdog]

I ahve heard of that technique before. Never actually seen it done. It makes sence once tyou see it. "blowing air under a finger then heating it down at the same time"

thanks for sharing that with us

[Pit Stop]

Always good to learn new things, I will have to try it. I am curious too as to why you didnt use the same technique to do the top

[Stag]

Right on Ryker. What the H%ll Ill try it tomorrow.

[Shady Sherlock]

That is really cool dood....
I'll have to try it out soon....
Thanks for sharing..

[lilDetails]

I do that on some tops, but if I can pull the film up off the glass I just do it that way most of the time. I did do an 07ish Neon top with that method.....

And it worked for me on the Global HP. The only difference was I had to back off at the bottom as the film started to curl up. James pointed out that the Llumar is rolled the opposite and that was probably why Global did that.

[Pit Stop]

I do that on some tops, but if I can pull the film up off the glass I just do it that way most of the time. I did do an 07ish Neon top with that method.....

And it worked for me on the Global HP. The only difference was I had to back off at the bottom as the film started to curl up. James pointed out that the Llumar is rolled the opposite and that was probably why Global did that.

Cool Global has a different polyester the best I remember also

[wndotint]

Nice. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.

One question: What polish are you using to get rid of the marks and scratches caused by the heat gun cords banging up against the car over and over?

[lilDetails]

watched the vid again and sorry but the cords are not BANGING or even moving much on the car. Car was very clean so there was not dirt to make it an issue. If I have to reach far then I will drape the cords over my shoulders.

Never had it be an issue.

[one slick tinter]

Nice. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.

One question: What polish are you using to get rid of the marks and scratches caused by the heat gun cords banging up against the car over and over?

[TintWizard]

I've used a double heat gun for many yrs now ..I posted a video here a few years back similar idea blowing heat under, then chase it down, hakes only a couple of minutes on most back windows .. the only difference is you blow the heat in at the same time as chasing it down with the guns separate , I have 2 guns permanently strapped together , blowing the heat under first with both guns , then chase it down . Like you say though, takes way too long with one gun , wit h2 and the right flow, takes no time at all . So in essence if I was doing the bottom fingers first , I shoot heat up into the fingers underneath as the guns move up to the center of the bg, then heat the outside as the guns drop down again..same thing exactly..you separate the guns, I keep them together .

I've said it MANY times..don't knock 2 guns at once till you try it . I've had people try it and no like it till they watch me use them and then really like it ..once you get used to it ..going back to one gun sucks ..ask any 2 gun user


Nice video

[TintWizard]

Nice. I'll give it a shot tomorrow.

One question: What polish are you using to get rid of the marks and scratches caused by the heat gun cords banging up against the car over and over?

I'll adress this question..I always have a drop cloth drapped over the rear of all trunks :I just pin it on either side then shut the trunk, I did have cord marks the first time I used 2 guns, never again after taking the 10 seconds it taked to put a drop cloth over the trunk (good idea IMO anyways..that way you can set squeges and such on the trunk without worry + when you lean over , etc. That's me though..if it's not a problem , then no need to do it

[TintWizard]

watched the vid again and sorry but the cords are not BANGING or even moving much on the car. Car was very clean so there was not dirt to make it an issue. If I have to reach far then I will drape the cords over my shoulders.

Never had it be an issue.

It's a fact that whenever you show a video to share knowledge , more often then not you'll have to defend some parts of what members view (not singling wndotint out at all , but rather speaking from experience ,that's why I don't shoot video much anymore..if you do..be prepared to back up procedure ) That's why I pipe up to defend the 2 gun shrink whenever someone films it

[Pit Stop]

Some of you guys way over analyze this business

[TintWizard]

Some of you guys way over analyze this business

In respects to this thread..what do you mean

[TintDude]

Instant TOTW I also added a link to this where the other shrink methods are listed.

[losdawg]

[Pit Stop]

In respects to this thread..what do you mean

The dragging the cord

[General Sun Shie...]

Instant TOTW I also added a link to this where the other shrink methods are listed.

TOTW is

[TintDude]

Chuck Norris approves

[tintman237]

Some of you guys way over analyze this business

didn't understand this stament at first....................

The dragging the cord

but,

when your working on some hi end cars with some hi end customers, , you don't wanna drag cords on the paint, it's a good practice to get into, I had a lady with a white shelby mustang say I put scratches in her trunk lid when I tinted it I'm looking, and looking, and finally she gets her nose on the trunklid @ an angle and says do you see all these (towel swirls in the clear coat) she said it was from me wiping the trunklid off wasn't me, because I never wiped your car down.

TOTW is

I'm gonna Chuckie

[goldtooth]

cool technique bro..is it done as a wet lay or dry

[TintWizard]

The dragging the cord

If you've ever seen heater gun cord rub marks on a brand new black car ..you'd know that this isn't being too analytical ..it's just discussing a preventative measure if it IS an issue to have a happier customer in the end

[Pit Stop]

If you've ever seen heater gun cord rub marks on a brand new black car ..you'd know that this isn't being too analytical ..it's just discussing a preventative measure if it IS an issue to have a happier customer in the end

Ive done it. we've all done it. Just let the man bask in his glory instead of analyzing every move and mistake he made
If he scratched the car its not yours or I's problem

[TTS]

I don't have speakers on the 'ol computer to hear the video.. What does he spray the glass with and wipe off before laying the film down ??

Thanks!

BTW- Great video!

[TintDude]

Film on

[FRANK]

Nice video ..Now i know what to do with that other heat gun i have lying around..lol

[TintWizard]

Ive done it. we've all done it. Just let the man bask in his glory instead of analyzing every move and mistake he made
If he scratched the car its not yours or I's problem

Thanks for clarifying ! That's why I jumped to his defense when wndotint asked about cord marked on the car saying that IF it was an issue covering it was the solution ..if it's NOT an issue ..no worries.. A good observation either way..but trying to keep the focus on the tip rather than picking apart the secondary behind the scenes as many do

This has been edited by TintWizard: Jan 29 2008, 01:09 PM

[TintWizard]

Nice video ..Now i know what to do with that other heat gun i have lying around..lol

Just make sure they are hooked up to separate fuses..if there is anything else on that breaker...POP

[TINTZEUS]

cool technique bro..is it done as a wet lay or dry

I'll say dry..

SWEET video..................... I'v done the pull and heat. But never the over-n-under shrink.........that was badass.

TOTW fer sure..........

[Bundy Bear]

One question, Is the second heat gun on a low heat setting? I'm assuming that it would be so you don't wreck the bottom edge of the film or burn the paint

[TINTZEUS]

One question, Is the second heat gun on a low heat setting? I'm assuming that it would be so you don't wreck the bottom edge of the film or burn the paint

I think hes holding the second one back just a bit more...............

[Bundy Bear]

I think hes holding the second one back just a bit more...............

It's more the air blowing under the film than the heat though.....isn't it

[lilDetails]

both guns on high, hold the under one back enough to not "melt" or even lay down the film edge (had it do that on Suntek HP 05) the air blowing is one of the main keys. It keeps the film off the window but the heat is a big plus as it warms the film itself to aid in the shrink.

I have my "extra soapy" little sprayer with a pretty high concentration of Film-on in it for those extra tacky windows. I found that I can mist it on the back glass, wipe LIGHTLY, then when it drys it reacts like a dryer sheet or even better without the extra soap film from Mdog's shrink style.

It is very much dry.....

Thanks for the "votes" guys. I should have posted this sooner.....I have been doing it this way for about 2 years....just had not put it out there.

[TINTZEUS]

sweet post ...

I'm gonna try it ....most likely....... Thursday.............. Looks like it works great.

[allprotinter]

I like to see different techniques.

[hoosierwindowtek]

That method looks awesome! I'm definitely gonna try it soon. I've been using the soap shrink for a while, and love it, but that method looks way easier and faster.

I have a question, though.

When you do the top part of the film, it looks like as you reach the top of the window you have to hold the film up and as you finish, it snaps down into place. How do you make sure you don't overshrink it across the top?

[lilDetails]

on the top, it is more of experience with doing it this way. When I get just about to the top of the glass or where I want to stop then I will let it go. It does not take much to make the film lay down on the top like that. The only car that is tough is the 2 door Stratus.....

This shrink will work with dryer sheets, the Mdog Soap, wet, and even powder......or probably any style.

[wndotint]

Sorry for coming across as analytical, as some put it. But if I was doing something wrong I would hope someone here would point it out to me.

BTW, there is no such thing as over analyzing this art form. Most of us here are trying to stand out and above the competition. It's the little things that do that. Plus, what's the first part of analyze? Here's a hint: OCD.

[hoosierwindowtek]

on the top, it is more of experience with doing it this way. When I get just about to the top of the glass or where I want to stop then I will let it go. It does not take much to make the film lay down on the top like that. The only car that is tough is the 2 door Stratus.....

This shrink will work with dryer sheets, the Mdog Soap, wet, and even powder......or probably any style.

So the stratus is harder than a New Beetle?

Scary

[TintWizard]

Sorry for coming across as analytical, as some put it. But if I was doing something wrong I would hope someone here would point it out to me.

BTW, there is no such thing as over analyzing this art form. Most of us here are trying to stand out and above the competition. It's the little things that do that. Plus, what's the first part of analyze? Here's a hint: OCD.

[shwusyrtnts]

I do wana let you all know that lil'D also shrank the top with heat over and under as well on his cavy so this method works top and bottom. Also this is just one mans tech. I personally liked this way of shrinking but still havent got it down. I will say that when you get it right you have very little "puckers" or "distortion" to the film on the outside of the glass. Almost like it is more gentle on the shrink process. I wonder what would happen if LB used 2 torches?

Has anyone done this on a non-metal film yet? I bet its really easy on the thinner films.

This has been edited by shwusyrtnts: Jan 30 2008, 08:26 AM

[lilDetails]

So the stratus is harder than a New Beetle?

Scary

can't say much about the Beetle..... I have not had to tint one in about 4 years. Lucky, yes.....

Beetle has to be shrunk all the way across the top and bottom. The Stratus is just really tight in the top corners.

[lilDetails]

I did it with the Suntek Carbon 18..... I personally don't see much difference in time with the HP versus the Dyed only films....

[naughtydog]

Awesome tip - I use carbon and ATR so I will have a play.

How about placing some film scraps stuck to the car at the bottom of the screen to absorb a little of the heat - so the paint is not affected?

[lilDetails]

if you feel you need to put something on there....I guarantee that I don't get the paint hot enough to matter. The heat is simply not on there long enough....

Shwusyrtnts called me today and he got it down on his second try.....loves it.

[shwusyrtnts]

Awesome tip - I use carbon and ATR so I will have a play.

How about placing some film scraps stuck to the car at the bottom of the screen to absorb a little of the heat - so the paint is not affected?

The heat gun is not close enough to get the paint that hot. I can touch the paint when i'm done yet there have been hot summer days when I can't even touch the paint.

[naughtydog]

Thanks

[TINTZEUS]

I did it today on an Audi Q7 backglass....worked pretty good. I'd have to do it more to get fast at it.

I'm a one gun tinter... I'll try it again...I liked it, It's nice to do something different.

[Mdog]

I'm a one gun tinter... dunno.gif I'll try it again...I liked it, It's nice to do something different.

Copy that...I swear to god if it were not for this site i would have gotten out a few years ago. Getting to see new and different techniques is pretty refreshing and keeps me going

[willie]

Copy that...I swear to god if it were not for this site i would have gotten out a few years ago. Getting to see new and different techniques is pretty refreshing and keeps me going

Are you still looking at police work at all

[Mdog]

No, its too much of a cluster fvck to get into

[BIG E]

Cool tip, its always nice to see something done a little different. Someone will eventually morph this method with their own and show us another "New" method!

[TINTDESIGNZ]

I gave it a try on an old 03 sentra-worked pretty darn good! Even with POS heat guns!

[goldtooth]

both guns on high, hold the under one back enough to not "melt" or even lay down the film edge (had it do that on Suntek HP 05) the air blowing is one of the main keys. It keeps the film off the window but the heat is a big plus as it warms the film itself to aid in the shrink.

I have my "extra soapy" little sprayer with a pretty high concentration of Film-on in it for those extra tacky windows. I found that I can mist it on the back glass, wipe LIGHTLY, then when it drys it reacts like a dryer sheet or even better without the extra soap film from Mdog's shrink style.

It is very much dry.....

Thanks for the "votes" guys. I should have posted this sooner.....I have been doing it this way for about 2 years....just had not put it out there.

got one more question on this technique..

you use the heat to basically blow air between the film and the glass

does it matter if that air is hot or cold?


can you use a gun that blows cool air instead?

[tintaddicted]

thats the coolest chit i've seen wow i got to try that i'm stoked
got a car tomorrow im gonna try

[thatsnappyguy]

i tried this today...its a lil tricky, i ll try it again to get the hang of it.

[darkdan]

can you use a gun that blows cool air instead?

A majority of the purpose of this is to heat from both sides.

[TINTZEUS]

I did it again today on a Lexus IS250.....works good on eazy backglasses...........

Different cars take different tricks.


I like this tip, its fun and different....

[TINTDESIGNZ]

can you use a gun that blows cool air instead?

I'm sure hot air would work best-but no doubt it would work with any air.

[lilDetails]

yes air in general will help.....keep the film off the glass, but the main thing with The Ryk Shrink is the extra heat.

[TINTZEUS]

[kats2112]

I did it today on an Audi Q7 backglass....worked pretty good. I'd have to do it more to get fast at it.

I'm a one gun tinter... I'll try it again...I liked it, It's nice to do something different.

Me too! OVERSHRUNK the first one What a wrestling match that was!

It is fun to change it up with something like that. I'm gonna get another gun

[TINTZEUS]

Gotta have two heatguns to do it....not one.... Dont try it with one..............

[lorenzotint]

I did it again today on a Lexus IS250.....works good on eazy backglasses...........

Different cars take different tricks.


I like this tip, its fun and different....

yes IS but not Vette.. new is good

[TINTZEUS]

yes IS but not Vette.. new is good

aaaah...lorenzo, thats funny.......

try it out on an eazy backglass it's kinda fun...

[TINTING AZ]

HEY LIL DETAILS i tried the ryk shrink today on a cavalier n that worked really really well dude i give u a freaking tip of the month on that
thanks a bunch bro

[yogi2187]

That really looks awesome can't wait to try it TOTW
Thaks for the tip

[TinterRich]

This is the kinda stuff that keeps me coming back here....you young bucks have all the new tricks. Cool technique!

[shwusyrtnts]

I just realized..as you finished the shrink the song ended how cool!

[TINTDESIGNZ]

I just realized..as you finished the shrink the song ended how cool!

did it come to you in a dream?

[shwusyrtnts]

Well...can't say I was dreaming but it did come to me