best heat rejection tint?

Hi guys,

First post! I was wondering what tint you would recoomend for greatest heat rejection? I'm in SoCal with a black interior and the temps have been hitting triple digits and I'm dying. What tint do you recommend? I need a ceramic based tint as well since my rear window is also my antenna.
Also, can you guys recommend any great installers in the LA area? I can always go through the yellow pages but I'd rather go with experience and word of mouth. Thanks!

Regards,
Mike

they have some other films that are not ceramic that will pose no problems with the antena in the rear window and come with a lifetime waranty.

When it comes to auto tint you are doing great to have performance over 50% total solar energy rejected (TSER). Keep in mind, you're driving a poorly insulated metal and glass canister. Window film is creature comfort while you occupy the car and truly is difficult for the skin to perceive minor differences in performance values.

The car will still get hot as could be when parking all day in the sun. It'll just take slightly longer for it to heat up once window film is applied.

As to the antenna on the back glass... be careful of the ceramic hype (ceramic = infrared absorbing material), there are conductive (a so-called 'ceramic' film presently available) and non-conductive types (FormulaOne's Pinnacle film).

Furthermore, if you were to choose a high heat rejecting film that would potentially interfere with AM radio (not FM), you could always ask the installer to place an invisi-seam immediately above the uppermost defroster line to seperate the film that contacts the antenna from the film that contacts the defroster grid. This should eliviate any antenna grounding to the chassis through the defroster.

Pretty much what Sprinter has said is the suggested direction for you to take.

metint wow all that just to say I'm right!

i use gila creamic papers from autozone. the one with jesse james`s picture on it

Yeup.... since it seemed to be Joe Public I figured a minor education was in order, too.

yeah, MT couldnt be more right.

Dont bother spending the extra $$$ on the high end F1 or At-r,
Just get some AT-CH, its still warrantied for the life of your car
against color change and peeling. You still get the 99% UV reduction, and around
40 to 50% heat reduction
Even a piece of cardboard will stop major UV and some heat .

Thanks metint for the quick lesson. Which tint would you recommend for my situation, there are so many out there. I threw out HO and F1 Pinnacle as a choice because they are suppose to be the best in thermal heat rejection. BTW, is the HO ceramic series the conductive or non-conductive type?

tintslut - I'm not familiar with the acronyms. Can you explain to me what AT-R, AT-CH are?

Thanks!

Mike

Either film you mentioned will serve you well...

These are other films made by the same manu as FormulaOne...

AT CH = auto tint charcoal, LLumar premium color stable dyed film (non-metal)

ATR CH = auto tint reflective, LLumar (dye metal) color stable combination...

Nothing beats the heat rejection of V-Kool 70% at 55% heat rejection for a 70% visible light transmittance film.

Huper Optik ceramic 50% rejects 49%.
Huper Optik ceramic 40% rejects 55%.
Huper Optik ceramic 30% rejects 61%.

If you don't mind going with a full metal film, you can get similar heat rejection numbers but you will need to go with a film that is slightly darker and more reflective to acheive those numbers.

Just tint your car with any high quality film and you will notice a BIG difference.

Who makes V-Kool?

Also, Can someone recommend a good installer in the SoCal area?

Thanks!

Mike

Also, does anyone have the link to the formula one pinnacle tint website?

Pinnacle has not made it to the FormulaOne web site. You'll just have to leave the puter for a bit and go see a dealer... or call the 800 number on the F1 website and you may find yourself eventually speaking to me(tint).

May I suggest one buy American made... the US economy could use the boost...

A-Pro (FormulaOne) in the LA area are top-notch...

THanks metint. Do you have FormulaOne's website. I tried google but have a hard time locating it. Also, do you have a phone number for A-Pro? Thanks a bunch!

http://www.formulaone.com



A-Pro is listed on the F1 dealer map on the site.

Awesome. Thanks man! Oh yeah, I went to a tint shop and they recommended Suntek to me, any good?

No, metint wouldn't recommend Suntek to you, as they are a competitor of the manufacturer for whom metint works for, which incidentally makes the pinnacle line of film. But don't listen to me either, as I'm biased as well, being a Huper dealer.

ST (Commonwealth Coating & Laminating) is an up and coming converter located right across town from CPF... they are similar to Johnson Window Films in that they outsource for all components and put film together through known constructions. These companies fill a niche in the market for affordable film for the consumer.

ST has been on the professional side of film making for approximately 4-5 years after many years making the Axius line of film that you will still find at Walmart, which by-the-by competes directly with CPF's Gila line of do-it-yourself film. DIY films are for the truly serious penny pinchers.

Is it good? Ask someone who has installed it for the entire time it has been available professionally, not one who has been installing it for a few months or a couple of years.

Wouldn't dare...

metint Posted: Jul 18 2004, 07:12 AM

Well, right now, my two options are HO and F1 PInnacle tint but given the cost of HO (which is about double what they would charge me for F1), I might go with the F1. I'll give A-Pro a call.

BTw, F1 Pinnacle tint: Is that the premier or the ultimate line?

Neither... Pinnacle is a series all its own...

It's a color-stable, dyed product with a non-conductive, infrared-absorbing deposition (material deposited to polyester).

Hi everyone, I'm also in Southern California, and looking to cool my car. I've been to two local shops; When I asked the first shop about Huper Optik, they said it takes too long to dry, and it's mostly for residential use, not good for cars. They recommended the F1 Pinnacle, claiming that the 'light' -color tint has a heat rejection value that is greater than most metallic 'dark' tints. I don't remember the exact numbers, it was either 35% or maybe 50%. Their other options included the Ultimate, which is a metallic film.

The second shop I went to was recommended to me by a couple different friends. This shop carries 3M brands, and they weren't familiar with Huper Optik, and didn't seem impressed by the idea of ceramic tint. They said their 3M tint would be "just as good as the stuff that the shop down the street sells, you won't tell the difference." The heat rejection for the 3M "light" was definitely 18%, I remember this distinctly because it was today. Price for 3M was similar to the first shop's price for F1 Ultimate, maybe slightly lower.


What are your opinions on 3M Scotchtint?

Better yet, I'm willing to visit anyone in the Inland Empire, near San Bernardino and Pomona are the most convenient places to me.

Thanks,
-scott-

They wouldn't be if they didn't have it or trialled it.
Ignorant!
Devil

Okay I hate to necropost, but it's better than starting a new thread on the same topic, right?

Here's the deal. I want as much heat rejection as possible. I searched around on the web and found a tint line I really liked. The HO DREI line. Unfortunately, they (the HO dealer in ATL) don't install it on cars.

So I need an alternative. They recommended a new line by 3m (forget the name) that just came out in April, but I don't know anything about it.

So my question is the same as the OPs: What's the best heat-rejecting tint out there? I want a tint around 30%

I figure this thread has been dead a couple years now, so I'm sure quite a lot has changed.

What these poeple are trying to tell you is that "best" is a relative term, there are several "best " films to choose from, but what you need to know is that the film is only part of the equation, the guy putting it on has a significant impact on the overall outcome of the work. Go see these guys and use your normal consumer perceptions: ie clean shop, good customer service, clean installs etc.

I realize that, but the best installer in the world isn't going to make a film reject more heat that its specs. The installation is a completely seperate issue.

I want to know which automotive film out there currently offers the best heat rejection at around 30%. Legal here is 32%, so I want to stay close to that.

That'd be the 3M Black Chrome. It's a full metal film.

If you don't mind the high reflectivity of a full metal film it's the way to go.

35% VLT and 57% TSER and .50 Shading Coefficient.



To give you something to compare it to the 3M Tint-FX HP 35% has a TSER of 42% and a shading coefficient of 0.67

Will either make a huge difference in your comfort while you're driving? Yes. Will either make a difference while your car is parked? Nope.

Thanks Dan. That's what I wanted to know.

Do you have any pics of the metal film compared to something more conventional? I'm just curious how reflective it is. My car's a metallic grey and I'm hoping it won't look bad.

Also, I realize it won't do any good while parked. I drive a Mazda RX-8, which puts out enough heat through the center console to fry an egg. Added to the heat coming in the windows, the AC needs to be blowing almost full force to keep the car cool.

I'm working on insulating the console, but that's gonna be a lot of work and $$, so I figured I'd get the windows done first.

Anyone else have any other comparable suggestions to the 3M Black Chrome?

Funny you should mention that.

Here's a RX-8 done in Global QDP that my brother tinted. He lives in Atlanta:



It's a NR film (non-reflective).

hey asmoran.I'm dark dans brother and I'm in marietta.I've done quite a few rx8's and would like to offer my services to you . go to our website at www.hurricanetint.com and check out the silver rx8. Give me a call, look foward to hearing from you.

Hey, thanks. Is that an office number? Anyone gonna be there tomorrow?

That's a cell phone.

I just talked to him. He said call tonight, call tomorrow, whatever. But try to not call past like 9 pm.

give me a call,sunday is okay