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rpt
Im having trouble with the back window on this Pug, has anyone got any tips on shrinking it I seem to be getting creases everytime I do them. How do you stop the fingers going down the sides, I have squeegeed them but they still dont seem to stop ??????
blade
Are you a tinter or DIYer?
rpt
Tinter but still learning. Its the bottom corners that seem to crease really easy the rest of the window is perfect.





Are you a tinter or DIYer?
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Mrs RJE
Are you wet shrinking or dry shrinking? icon_confused.gif
Take your time and if possible do both - dry then wet to get it to sit down properly.
Have patience, and Good Luck beer.gif
potzy
...i let fingers pop up down each side then leave after installed, get on with other parts
of the job then just run a littel heat from the outside and push flat...like RJE said take your
time...first times allways a bugger... beer.gif
jonnygfx
i heard they had to be spliced
naughtydog
powder shrink them, leave your anchors narrow at the sides so they cover the matrix and a little clear glass.

leave it long at the top so you can pull it down a little when you overcook the edges at the bottom.

Not one for the novice I'm afraid.

Naughty
k-tintz
i did one today, while i was at work at my week job. i used the mdog soap method. in 1 piece. took a couple of hours to shrink it. but it worked out right. only to then go and upset myself by burning it once i put it inside, had a awkward finger in one of the top corners and it got the better of me bat.gif

so i chopped the top 5inches off then spliced it. instead of redoing the whole thing. by the time i'd done, you couldn't see the join on the defroster line coffee.gif

i dont use the "H" anchor anymore. i just use the 2 dot method bingo.gif this allows the corners to float about without creasing or annoying fingers.








naughtydog
in my opinion - you have to powder those - and all I do is soap shrink now!

Naughty
k-tintz
i've never tried the powder, so wasn't really an option for me. it shrunk ok with saop method anyway. it works for me coffee.gif

this was my first 206 too.

least the door cards come off easy too. and just popped the back sides out, only 3 torx screws.
hippo187
a couple of houres to shrink!! id be gutted if it took me that long then i burned it.
done a few 206's and still h@te them but try new golf mk 5. devilangel.gif evil!!!
k-tintz
yeah was slightly gutted!!!, lol
Devil with bad attitude
QUOTE (hippo187 @ Apr 21 2006, 03:01 PM)
a couple of houres to shrink!! id be gutted if it took me that long then i burned it.
done a few 206's and still h@te them but try new golf mk 5.    devilangel.gif evil!!!
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I don't understand why anyone would want to reinvent the wheel? wall.gif
2 hours and you still rooted it?
Seam the bastard and be done with it in a matter of minutes!

Lost art skills of those who have been way before you.
Devil
peter-SI
I normaly do those in 2 peace - cut on 2nd bootom line(takes 15min) today i did it in 1pcs, 2nd try, burned tde bottom edge.

smile22.gif the same colore as on the pics smile22.gif

p.s: I did about 20 of those & i h@te them too.
carl
did one today for the first time and had to leave the car in the garage cannot do the back window tried about ten bloody times. what do you lot mean in two pieces i didnt think of doing that dow do you make a perfect cut in the defroster line ?

not been doing this long and its my first pug
naughtydog
If your new to shrinking...you'll never do it - sorry to tell you that.

Naughty
carl
finished the car today wasnt really happy with the way it went going a pug rear screen for my unit to do over and over now.
Tintim
QUOTE
If your new to shrinking...you'll never do it - sorry to tell you that.

Naughty


bingo.gif

gotta say I love reading this.

Problem is everyone thinks they can become a car window tinter over night. They go on a two or three day course and bingo they're a window tinter. Charge £100 and kill the market. We get customers ringing up who say they can get car done cheaper - I say you get what you pay for - let them go for the cheap job and let them screw it up.

Same with these companies selling tinting kits with instructions - ends up p1ss1ng people off - they come to us and say how much will we charge to fit their film, I say we won't do it.

Been through all this splicing of film and learning to shrink - it takes time and practice. The more you do the better you get. A 206 is a 15 minute shrink at most - not a problem in one or two pieces. Personally I do everthing in one where possible - inclduing beetle. Thank god Porsche stopped making 944 - that for me was three piece. If you want to learn you gotta stick at it.

THIS INDUSTRY IS TOUGH

Not everyone can become a car window tinter - I think you need a year in a tint shop before your able to handle any car - other industries plumbers, carpenters get away with charging a hell of a lot more, why shouldn't we charge more for our expertise.

Too many people in this industry willing to screw you over once they have got what they need - good thing is that once you have been around a few years and your customers have tried the fly by night cheapo tints they come back to you, making it more difficult for new comptetion to get a foot in the door. Downside is your only as good as your last job.
rob@solartint
QUOTE (Tintim @ Nov 12 2006, 02:13 PM) [*]447029[/*]
bingo.gif

gotta say I love reading this.

Problem is everyone thinks they can become a car window tinter over night. They go on a two or three day course and bingo they're a window tinter. Charge £100 and kill the market. We get customers ringing up who say they can get car done cheaper - I say you get what you pay for - let them go for the cheap job and let them screw it up.

Same with these companies selling tinting kits with instructions - ends up p1ss1ng people off - they come to us and say how much will we charge to fit their film, I say we won't do it.

Been through all this splicing of film and learning to shrink - it takes time and practice. The more you do the better you get. A 206 is a 15 minute shrink at most - not a problem in one or two pieces. Personally I do everthing in one where possible - inclduing beetle. Thank god Porsche stopped making 944 - that for me was three piece. If you want to learn you gotta stick at it.

THIS INDUSTRY IS TOUGH

Not everyone can become a car window tinter - I think you need a year in a tint shop before your able to handle any car - other industries plumbers, carpenters get away with charging a hell of a lot more, why shouldn't we charge more for our expertise.

Too many people in this industry willing to screw you over once they have got what they need - good thing is that once you have been around a few years and your customers have tried the fly by night cheapo tints they come back to you, making it more difficult for new comptetion to get a foot in the door. Downside is your only as good as your last job.



I'd doubt that carl is wanting to offer cheapo tint prices in order to undermine experienced tinters .. i think he has enough to think about with his tinting as hes just starting out. I think hes come on here for a bit of support dunno.gif

Carl - have a look through this website theres loadsa info that can help you ... beer.gif
Tintim
QUOTE (walestint @ Nov 12 2006, 02:40 PM) [*]447086[/*]
I'd doubt that carl is wanting to offer cheapo tint prices in order to undermine experienced tinters .. i think he has enough to think about with his tinting as hes just starting out. I think hes come on here for a bit of support dunno.gif

Carl - have a look through this website theres loadsa info that can help you ... beer.gif


Apologies - reading it back it turned into a bit of a rant bat.gif We have some new "competition" happily slating our work on the one hand yet saying they are as good as us on the other.

I never slate any ones work to customers instead I focus on how good we are. Just seems as though few people are in this for the long term these days - seems to be get as much as you can as quick as you can, do shoddy work and let others pick up the pieces. Rant over krazy.gif
naughtydog
I presume your competition are undercutting you as well??

Where are you located Tintim??

I think it should be a requirement on here we fill in the location, just so we know who's who.

Naughty
Tintim
QUOTE (naughtydog @ Nov 13 2006, 12:24 PM) [*]447244[/*]
I presume your competition are undercutting you as well??

Where are you located Tintim??

I think it should be a requirement on here we fill in the location, just so we know who's who.

Naughty



bingo.gif Undercutting, but struggling don't think they'll be around long.

We're based in Reading Berkshire, some long way from Cheshire. Thing is it doesn't matter if they are on your doorstep - there is plenty of work out there, without going into your customers and slagging you off.
jpwindowfilms
I do quite a few of these and to shrink them in one piece is quite trickey as you can see from all the mistakes made by people on here.

Just do it in 2 pieces and splice them across one of the heater lines. The lines are pretty think on the 206 so you can hide the cut pretty well.

I have one in today and the guy suppllied his own film he bought of ebay. Was already cut in 2 pieces but wasnt metalized so couldnt be heat shrunk and the join would have crossed over 3 heater lines and looked so bad. Install a film on one of these that aint metalized - Impossible!!

I'm using my own film and charging him more. At the end of the day I dont want to send a car out of my shop that looks crap. Looks bad for me. So get it done right, even if the back window has to be done in 2 pieces.

Good luck mate.
Samrasr
QUOTE (jpwindowfilms @ Mar 21 2007, 05:26 AM) [*]491920[/*]
I do quite a few of these and to shrink them in one piece is quite trickey as you can see from all the mistakes made by people on here.

Just do it in 2 pieces and splice them across one of the heater lines. The lines are pretty think on the 206 so you can hide the cut pretty well.

I have one in today and the guy suppllied his own film he bought of ebay. Was already cut in 2 pieces but wasnt metalized so couldnt be heat shrunk and the join would have crossed over 3 heater lines and looked so bad. Install a film on one of these that aint metalized - Impossible!!

I'm using my own film and charging him more. At the end of the day I dont want to send a car out of my shop that looks crap. Looks bad for me. So get it done right, even if the back window has to be done in 2 pieces.

Good luck mate.


What do you mean that film was not metalized so could'nt be heat shrinked? What you mean by metalised and non metalised?
naughtydog
QUOTE (Samrasr @ Sep 26 2007, 11:26 AM) [*]548450[/*]
What do you mean that film was not metalized so could'nt be heat shrinked? What you mean by metalised and non metalised?


You can tell which is which by the weight of the box.
Diamond Tints
QUOTE (naughtydog @ Sep 26 2007, 10:22 PM) [*]548541[/*]
You can tell which is which by the weight of the box.



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CleanCutter
why is that funny? Actually, you CAN tell by weight. Although, I doubt many humans can feel it with their hands.

There used to be a company (Llumar??) that had a chart of all the weights of their film and the weight at varying lengths left on the roll. All you were supposed to do was set the film on a digital scale, get the weight, then find that number on the chart and that number then told you with a foot or so of what was on the roll. Don't know how reliable that was, but no doubt it was probably pretty accurate. A little cumbersome though. Most any experienced tinter can look at the roll and guess pretty close what's left, just by sight.
Diamond Tints
QUOTE (CleanCutter @ Nov 2 2007, 01:39 AM) [*]558779[/*]
why is that funny? Actually, you CAN tell by weight. Although, I doubt many humans can feel it with their hands.

There used to be a company (Llumar??) that had a chart of all the weights of their film and the weight at varying lengths left on the roll. All you were supposed to do was set the film on a digital scale, get the weight, then find that number on the chart and that number then told you with a foot or so of what was on the roll. Don't know how reliable that was, but no doubt it was probably pretty accurate. A little cumbersome though. Most any experienced tinter can look at the roll and guess pretty close what's left, just by sight.



Why is it funny? Just because it is hmmmmmmm.gif Now change your tampon and stop moaning!!
I aint interested about weights of films either grinning_and_saying_no.gif
CleanCutter
QUOTE (Diamond Tints @ Nov 2 2007, 02:56 PM) [*]558955[/*]
Why is it funny? Just because it is hmmmmmmm.gif Now change your tampon and stop moaning!!


Good thing you're not vulgar or anything.
BrazilianTinter
It´s easy.
Dry shrinking, and cut the film bigger than normal, fix it, and leave extra film down and be patient.






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