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The ///Man
We have an extremely successful tinting portion of our company. Part of the success is due to our company having probably two of the best tinters in this town. Sometimes I worry that I am overworking and overstressing them. From 8-5 we average about 8 full tints and some little stuff in between. What do you guys think? Is this about average?
Mdog
HA i do 5 or 6 a day myself in 8 hours. Your not over working 2 guys with 8 cars. 2 guys that know whats up should be able to knock out DOUBLE that working together.

Just my opinion though. I would think i`m on vacation doing 8 cars WITH help Flaugh.gif HEY! mabey i am over worked Flaugh.gif now that i think about it.
blade
My installer and I can usually do a 4 door car in about 45 minutes. I've got 19 years experience, he's got almost 2 years (he tints like it's much more though). Amount of cars done in a day varies. Some we pull panels, some we don't. Full vehicles can mean many things too, truck, car, SUV. It's just us 2 doing EVERYTHING. Answering phones, dealing with walk-ins, plus tinting, and cutting and weeding vinyl. dunno.gif
TINT
right now its just three of us, no rookies here

last week we did 15 and still had an hour left before we closed (no bullshiat)

just wish it was like that everyday! bat.gif
TintDude
I can only pull 4 a day... i'm such a loser lol2.gif
TINT
(tintdude @ Jul 1 2005, 09:09 PM)
I can only pull 4 a day... i'm such a loser lol2.gif
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if u alone ranger then thta's ok, i do the same...or were both losers! spit.gif
TintDude
Seriously, i can only do 4 a day, 5 if pressed, never been able to do more. I think i put to much into them, striving for quality and all that..but then again i'm old. dunno.gif
TINT
i sometimes get caught up in that same way TD, the more careful you are the more you try to do a "good" job the shiitier it comes out wall.gif
Devil with bad attitude
(blade @ Jul 1 2005, 07:50 PM)
My installer and I can usually do a 4 door car in about 45 minutes.  I've got 19 years experience, he's got almost 2 years (he tints like it's much more though).  Amount of cars done in a day varies.  Some we pull panels, some we don't.  Full vehicles can mean many things too,  truck, car, SUV.  It's just us 2 doing EVERYTHING.  Answering phones, dealing with walk-ins, plus tinting, and cutting and weeding vinyl.  dunno.gif
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Yeah but are you makin' any money?
That's what needs to be known.
devil
blade
(TINT @ Jul 1 2005, 09:10 PM)
alone ranger

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blade
(Devil with bad attitude @ Jul 2 2005, 04:47 AM)
Yeah but are you makin' any money?
That's what needs to be known.

nope...we do it because it's fun spit.gif
TINT
(blade @ Jul 2 2005, 04:48 AM)
(TINT @ Jul 1 2005, 09:10 PM)
alone ranger

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hey hey, call it a typo poop.gif
darkdan
Perhaps you should ask them how they feel.

Then buy them some beer.
Texastintchick
I think 8 a day for two people is reasonable...depending on what they are tinting. Most days P and I don't tint but 4 completes grinning_and_saying_no.gif but we will tint 8 or 9 if they are a combination of 2 drs, 4drs, P/U, D & P only dunno.gif

We are old too spit.gif
zolar
I 3rd the old school

4 is plenty, 5 if your'e lucky

I am an old "alone ranger"


8- 10 ? put the pipe down


Z
tintgod
(tintdude @ Jul 2 2005, 12:10 AM)
Seriously, i can only do 4 a day, 5 if pressed, never been able to do more. I think i put to much into them, striving for quality and all that..but then again i'm old. dunno.gif
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im with you ric...i can do 4-5 a day tops...anything more..i feel like im cheating my clients out of a quality job,,but then again..i take most panels off, and i take out certain cars front window out..which take a little more time..but "I" think it is worth it..
tintgod
but to answer the original ?...i dont feel that your workers are being over worked with that amount of cars biggthumpup.gif
L.L.Tint
i don't think you're working them too hard. I've done 7 by myself in a 9 hr. day (no lunch), but it was a pain in the arse. 4 is more of my pace.
Mr paladin
I have been tinting 20 years full time and the most I have ever done in 1 day myself is 6, but when i am done I go over every window and push out any small fingers,wipe off the soap streeks from the paint,wipe off all the door panels,so many time i see cars that were just tinted and i see small fingers because someone just shoed them out the door as soon as they slapped the tint on dunno.gif orngbiggrin.gif
Mr paladin
For the most part I think most tinters are over worked and under paid, thats why you always see people on here wondering why they can't keep good tinters,if your tinter is tinting 4 cars a day every day and he is not takeing home 50K he is under paid and that is based on 4 cars a day 5 days a week at a conservative $159 car and him getting 30 % orngbiggrin.gif
Devil with bad attitude
(Mr paladin @ Jul 2 2005, 05:19 PM)
For  the most part I think most tinters are over worked and under paid, thats why you always see people on here wondering why they can't keep good tinters,if your tinter is tinting 4 cars a day every day and he is not takeing home 50K he is under paid and that is based on 4 cars a day 5 days a week at a  conservative $159 car and him getting 30 % orngbiggrin.gif
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Why don't you pay a straight weekly wage? dunno.gif
Devil
metint
(Devil with bad attitude @ Jul 3 2005, 07:13 AM)
(Mr paladin @ Jul 2 2005, 05:19 PM)
For  the most part I think most tinters are over worked and under paid, thats why you always see people on here wondering why they can't keep good tinters,if your tinter is tinting 4 cars a day every day and he is not takeing home 50K he is under paid and that is based on 4 cars a day 5 days a week at a   conservative $159 car and him getting 30 % orngbiggrin.gif
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Why don't you pay a straight weekly wage? dunno.gif
Devil
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Taxes... paying a commission in many ways benefits the shop owner... dunno.gif At least it was for me back in the days.

What Mr. P speaks above was the scenario in my shops back in Florida... difference being in the %... I paid higher than 30... I wanted to keep my installers, too and didn't have any biz sense. Flaugh.gif

All them peeps talking old can keep on talking old and soon find out they are... me? I am not old, but 4-5 cars a day was my fill from the time I found my groove to the time I stopped doing it on a daily basis.

I am not old
I am older... old is always 15 years older than I am today. spit.gif
Guest
and 15 years Younger than REALLY old

hmmmmmmm.gif

Z
blade
hey Zolar...you forget to sign in? Flaugh.gif
Texastintchick
(blade @ Jul 3 2005, 01:43 PM)
hey Zolar...you forget to sign in?  Flaugh.gif
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pmuzik
(Mr paladin @ Jul 2 2005, 08:19 PM)
For  the most part I think most tinters are over worked and under paid,
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Looks like a good time to ask for a raise TTC after that comment spit.gif
Guest
(Texastintchick @ Jul 3 2005, 04:05 PM)
(blade @ Jul 3 2005, 01:43 PM)
hey Zolar...you forget to sign in?  Flaugh.gif
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Yeah but I still signed it dunno.gif

Busy weekend, glad to go back to 4-5 cars a day

I need the break.



Z
autotinter
you arn't overworking, them, but take care of them by buying them coffee, doughnuts, lunch, small gifts, sometimes it the little things that keep people happy,just showing u appreciate there work. My last boss 5 years ago would book 5, or 6 cars, a day i would do them, some rushed, if there was still time left in the day, he would book extras, with not even a thank you, thats why i quit and started my own shop,best thing i ever did!!!!!!!!!!
skanlan
8 cars is enough..If you give 'em more they will make so much money that they will end
up opening their own shops!! nono.gif whatjust.gif wall.gif
Corsa_stu
we have 2 tinters, myself and the bosses son.. on my owen if the work is in i can do about 6 cars a day.. depends in the cars tho.. small cars like vauxhall (opel) corsa's (3 or 5 door hatch backs) will take an average of an hour.. just depends.. my specialty is a corsa(which i own!) can be done from start to finish including cleaning it up 2 in 30 mins...

but to be honest if i dont have allot of work in i take longer to do the job....
tintguy7
(autotinter @ Jul 5 2005, 08:19 AM)
you arn't overworking, them, but take care of them by buying them coffee, doughnuts, lunch, small gifts, sometimes it the little things that keep people happy,just showing u appreciate there work.  My last boss 5 years ago would book 5, or 6 cars, a day i would do them, some rushed, if there was still time left in the day, he would book extras, with not even a thank you, thats why i quit and started my own shop,best thing i ever did!!!!!!!!!!
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i bought lunch 5 days aweek for my lead tinter, not to mention i also gave him $50- $100 extra a week, if we had a good week. but when i needed him to step up because busy season or dead lines on flat glass, he did not want to and when i ask if the extras was not enough, he told me he never asked for it to begin with! bat.gif dunno.gif
autotinter
(mountainman @ Jul 29 2005, 05:20 PM)
(tintguy7 @ Jul 27 2005, 08:02 PM)
(autotinter @ Jul 5 2005, 08:19 AM)
you arn't overworking, them, but take care of them by buying them coffee, doughnuts, lunch, small gifts, sometimes it the little things that keep people happy,just showing u appreciate there work.  My last boss 5 years ago would book 5, or 6 cars, a day i would do them, some rushed, if there was still time left in the day, he would book extras, with not even a thank you, thats why i quit and started my own shop,best thing i ever did!!!!!!!!!!
[*]296331[/*]


i bought lunch 5 days aweek for my lead tinter, not to mention i also gave him $50- $100 extra a week, if we had a good week. but when i needed him to step up because busy season or dead lines on flat glass, he did not want to and when i ask if the extras was not enough, he told me he never asked for it to begin with! bat.gif dunno.gif
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dude, some people do not appreciate anything under any circumstance....they cannot be happy because they're not happy with themselves trust.gif
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yup som bosses are jerks
:ahole
some employees are jerks :ahole


everyone else have a nic weekend!! beer.gif beer.gif alc2.gif thumb.gif
Shady Sherlock
(tintguy7 @ Jul 27 2005, 08:02 PM)
(autotinter @ Jul 5 2005, 08:19 AM)
you arn't overworking, them, but take care of them by buying them coffee, doughnuts, lunch, small gifts, sometimes it the little things that keep people happy,just showing u appreciate there work.  My last boss 5 years ago would book 5, or 6 cars, a day i would do them, some rushed, if there was still time left in the day, he would book extras, with not even a thank you, thats why i quit and started my own shop,best thing i ever did!!!!!!!!!!
[*]296331[/*]


i bought lunch 5 days aweek for my lead tinter, not to mention i also gave him $50- $100 extra a week, if we had a good week. but when i needed him to step up because busy season or dead lines on flat glass, he did not want to and when i ask if the extras was not enough, he told me he never asked for it to begin with! bat.gif dunno.gif
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Someone like that is used to having things handed to them.
I'd stop giving the extras and let thaem see what they were missing.
Otherwise I'd have said "hit the road pal, I can do this myself if you do not appreciate what I do for you". bat.gif
zolar
I would appreciate a simple " thank you" when I get my check dunno.gif

Z
Shady Sherlock
(zolar @ Jul 29 2005, 07:08 PM)
I would appreciate a simple " thank you" when I get my check dunno.gif

Z
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Thank you, Z man, we appreciate you. thumb.gif
zolar
Wow the first one ever smile22.gif

I think I'll frame it

..........now about the check spit.gif

Z
Shady Sherlock
(zolar @ Jul 29 2005, 08:53 PM)
Wow the first one ever smile22.gif

I think I'll frame it

..........now about the check    spit.gif

Z
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What!.... you mean you haven't gotten it yet?
Man, I mailed that thing last friday... you know how slow that snail mail can be.
I sure hope I remembered to sign it. coffee.gif
LB55
you want to see my dick size too ass.. nigga please
tigerstripe
dunno.gif
TINT
spit.gif what the heck is LB talking about.

i think you got the wrong forum gay.gif
LB55
[SIZE=14][SIZE=7][COLOR=red]grown men with grown pay checks.close deals upgrade at every cost.the cust is always right.dont waste matt.get a plotter.rookies doors only and sales.no favors.three mo probation.thirty cars a day two vets two rooks.eight to four pm.clean shop a must.clean cut and eng and span speak.nothing worse than a cry baby on a seventhou day .moral,part cash and check.mind games breack down the week installer.i should change my handle
too "hat layer"or "tintslapper"lay a hat on the field,drop a three from the free,slap tint from eight to four.
tigerstripe
try to read that outloud in one breath.
LB55
once the sales closed, get to work.three things that are certin:the robber.the cust,our death.
will never know when its cmin.
TINT
change your handle to

"bullcrapper"
swetint
Take good care of yout tinters,they´re the one´s who keep the cash flowin in. No good tinters...no good cash! it´s their experience and craftsmanship that you base your shop on!
If they have a good rep...Pay them well..!
Bundy Bear
Aug 05. This should b dead and burried my friend. orngbiggrin.gif
tint45
(swetint @ May 16 2007, 04:59 PM) [*]507465[/*]
Take good care of yout tinters,they´re the one´s who keep the cash flowin in. No good tinters...no good cash! it´s their experience and craftsmanship that you base your shop on!
If they have a good rep...Pay them well..!




Clearly this guy doesn't own his own shop. Doesn't matter if you're mom&pop or Wal-Mart, you're gonna pay as little as possible to make your $$$. Free trade y'all!!

This post is sort of a good natured jab at my boss who also frequents this site. The wording was not well thought out and I thought it needed editing: I believe that the VAST majority(if not all) of the members of this forum, whether shop owner or employee, are a great community of honest, hard-working people, some of whom have helped me(directly and indirectly)very much since the start of my auto instalation career. Although we like to joke around alot on this site, I believe it is incumbent upon all of us as professionals to convey to those surfing this site that first and formost we hold our work to the highest of standards. Period. Thanks to TD for calling me out on this one! beer.gif
bobmaca
18 yr exp now.. a fact for me is the faster i tint quality goes down some. if i take my time PERFECTION BABY!! orngbiggrin.gif
exotic window tint
(Mdog @ Jul 1 2005, 10:05 PM) [*]295513[/*]
HA i do 5 or 6 a day myself in 8 hours. Your not over working 2 guys with 8 cars. 2 guys that know whats up should be able to knock out DOUBLE that working together.

Just my opinion though. I would think i`m on vacation doing 8 cars WITH help Flaugh.gif HEY! mabey i am over worked Flaugh.gif now that i think about it.



bingo.gif im gonna agree i can do that many by myself not bashin anyone just my twocents.gif
swetint
to tint 45: I am actually a shop owner! Have 4 employees and making good money too! Not by giving my tinters as little as possible but keeping them as happy as possible...good pay and a little extra from time to time...
It´s keeping them loyal to the company and me,and makes them work that little extra bit that matters! Plus it makes it more fun working together,when everybody´s reasonably happy with the work situation!
It´s grade A psychology! Try it! You´ll find it works!!
BTW: I´m based in Sweden,guess we have different aspects on things like these..





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