EU TINT REGULATIONS
LEO'n'DARTZ
Aug 14 2005, 12:31 PM
Hi EveryBody, We write here a lot about tint regulations, we discuss here small tricks how to pass threw e.t.c. But did any of us asked why 35%? Did any of us heard any argument why 35% not 40%? Are we happy from this tint laws? What will be tomorrow when people who write laws will tell: 35% all car around? We proudly&happy will close our biZ?
Tint Wiz
Aug 14 2005, 02:24 PM
 The law is their to be up held, but when police offices come in to my tint shop and want there own cars tinting with a light smoke on front doors, we must ask ourselves should the Law be looked at again,my own car has a 45% tint on front and my wifes car has 50%and we have passed many police cars and they have never looked twice as this looks so light on our cars
signandtint
Aug 15 2005, 02:04 AM
Leo january 2004 when the legislation was ammended here in the UK to fall in line with europe i asked VOSA, the body in charge of this ammendment here, for the research results and when they were conducted regarding the 70% max vlt on front glass, how the researchers involved came to the conclusion that glass at 70% vlt was fine as opposed to clear 100% vlt, and that anything even slightly lower than 70 was unroadworthy. i still await the reply, as they said that it was a fair question and would get back to me... no surprises that they haven't. someone at some stage declared 70% vlt a mx limit on vehicle glass. how did they get to this conclusion surely has to be asked? who we ask i have no idea. a study here a few years back deemed motorbike visor limits at 50% vlt showed no significant difference than at the agreed 70% vlt, but thats as far as it went. it seems we have no choice in the matter, other than to be p'ed off about it. i think we would all fight back if we knew how and whom
fimmo
Aug 22 2005, 12:43 AM
i've been against the law since the moment it changed but to be fair more and more people are coming around to the idea of staying legal and as i take a fairly hard line aproach to it all and tint very very little front windows (using 70% i may add) then i'm not worrying too much!
although if the law were to be updated and become realistic say allow a 50% or even a 35% then i know business would pick up!
to explain how crap the law is i rermoved tint from a renault clio on thursday,police measured it at 29% sounds dark but it was a medium film on it, so i removed it to comply with the rectification notice he was given and then measured the window....as standard the glass measured at 69%!! 1% under the legal limit!!
if standard tinted glass is already under the legal limit then that is an obvious signal to get the laws updated!
p.s the tint on the clio was applied by a tinter who works for renault not me,and was tinted just before the law was ammended!
fimmo
Aug 22 2005, 12:52 AM
and one last thing,a while back some of you uk tinters might remember i took the law change/ammendment hard,so i asked for every uk tinter to send me a letter backing me up to try and get somewhere with the dep of transport.
i received 3 letters! and no help whatsoever from johnsons who,at the time were my film supplier.
i went alone on this and went through my local mp right up to a guy called derek jamieson who at the time (might still be?) was the minister for the dep. of transport to get his info/help on this matter.
after a few letters i was basically told to back off as this law had been looked at by the people that matter and now that it was ammended it was a closed issue.
they seem to forget they are in that job to do the right thing by us not to just brush it under the table.
somewhere i have the list of people they got in to give them advice on the levels that deemed to be safe and it's laughable,they got in pentagon who are the biggest tint appliers in the uk but apart from that it was all irrelevent people such as the rac and the aa basically orginisations that dont know this industry from their elbow.
i also have (somewhere) a report from a police dep in england that did a detailed report on wht level of tint can be safe at night,they used the same car and tinted it using various shades of film and found out that 35% tint applied was safe night or day rain or shine but the dep of trans. decided to stick with the outdated 70% limit.
when i asked vosa why motorbike visors have a 50% limit and cars 70% their answer was basically.... cause they do!
tintdeck
Sep 8 2005, 09:42 AM
QUOTE (fimmo @ Aug 22 2005, 12:52 AM) and one last thing,a while back some of you uk tinters might remember i took the law change/ammendment hard,so i asked for every uk tinter to send me a letter backing me up to try and get somewhere with the dep of transport. i received 3 letters! and no help whatsoever from johnsons who,at the time were my film supplier. i went alone on this and went through my local mp right up to a guy called derek jamieson who at the time (might still be?) was the minister for the dep. of transport to get his info/help on this matter. after a few letters i was basically told to back off as this law had been looked at by the people that matter and now that it was ammended it was a closed issue. they seem to forget they are in that job to do the right thing by us not to just brush it under the table. somewhere i have the list of people they got in to give them advice on the levels that deemed to be safe and it's laughable,they got in pentagon who are the biggest tint appliers in the uk but apart from that it was all irrelevent people such as the rac and the aa basically orginisations that dont know this industry from their elbow. i also have (somewhere) a report from a police dep in england that did a detailed report on wht level of tint can be safe at night,they used the same car and tinted it using various shades of film and found out that 35% tint applied was safe night or day rain or shine but the dep of trans. decided to stick with the outdated 70% limit. when i asked vosa why motorbike visors have a 50% limit and cars 70% their answer was basically.... cause they do! [*]308016[/*]
Dr.Window
Oct 7 2005, 03:57 AM
To me it sucks, in Portugal it is still ilegal to use any kind of tint in cars. As in many things, Portugal doesn't respect the EU laws so i'm having a little of a problem here to have custumers to came and do it. I'm depending on home or office films more then automotive ones. Heard that EWFA did a constitucional complain to the european court law to have this law aprroved in Portugal but till now no news!
But i will survive.
BTW any other Portuguese here??? LOL
LEO'n'DARTZ
Oct 7 2005, 05:07 AM
QUOTE (Dr.Window @ Oct 7 2005, 03:57 AM) To me it sucks, in Portugal it is still ilegal to use any kind of tint in cars. As in many things, Portugal doesn't respect the EU laws so i'm having a little of a problem here to have custumers to came and do it. I'm depending on home or office films more then automotive ones. Heard that EWFA did a constitucional complain to the european court law to have this law aprroved in Portugal but till now no news! But i will survive. BTW any other Portuguese here??? LOL [*]324240[/*] Only thing do EWFA - charging money, IMHO.... Of course I can B wrong... You are first from Portugal, I see here I have spanish man in my stuff
LEO'n'DARTZ
Mar 16 2007, 12:38 AM
Fresh news from our road police. Penalty for outlaw tinted windows - GBP 60  or $100 or Eur 90 (aprox)
tintdeck
Mar 16 2007, 11:45 AM
most of the cars being pulled for tints are by stop checks vosa and police had check points on all the major roads round bolton checking tyres tints sunstrips number plates anything to make easy money and no papper work just a easy way for the goverment to screew more money out of the motorist i did a mitsubishi shogun 2 years ago it jacknifed on the motorway towing a caravan nobody was injured as the film held the shattered glass [50% on fronts] saving them from serious injury asked them if they would have concider a clear tint on front windows NO had to put 50% or my customer and round this area theres still plenty of them still puttint 6/18 on fronts
thatsnappyguy
Mar 16 2007, 04:12 PM
i dont have a problem with tint laws for one reason. i think police officers shouldnt have to approach a vehicle and not be able to see what he/she is walking into. think about if u were having to do what they do. BUT, our law down here is 50% on the 2 front windows. i think that 35% at least should be allowed. i feel bad for the states that arent allowed to have any tint on the front doors. that just sucks. but in my point of view, tint laws are good. everything has it s boundaries, and people like to cross the line making police feel unsafe when doin thier job.
Diamond Tints
Mar 16 2007, 05:24 PM
QUOTE (thatsnappyguy @ Mar 16 2007, 11:12 PM) [*]490206[/*] i dont have a problem with tint laws for one reason. i think police officers shouldnt have to approach a vehicle and not be able to see what he/she is walking into. think about if u were having to do what they do. BUT, our law down here is 50% on the 2 front windows. i think that 35% at least should be allowed. i feel bad for the states that arent allowed to have any tint on the front doors. that just sucks. but in my point of view, tint laws are good. everything has it s boundaries, and people like to cross the line making police feel unsafe when doin thier job. So what if the police are raiding a house? How can they see in there? What if they stop a van they dont know whos in the back of that do they? What pisses mo off is the dr*g squad over in the uk and pro active units etc etc are still driving around with cars with tints
yugo tinter
Mar 19 2007, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (LEO'n'DARTZ @ Mar 15 2007, 11:38 PM) [*]489980[/*] Fresh news from our road police. Penalty for outlaw tinted windows - GBP 60  or $100 or Eur 90 (aprox) Fresh ticket from here - 25 eur
Tint Technology
Mar 19 2007, 07:30 PM
We now only tint fronts with 65%, have been for 2 years, never had a come back. Police only want to see who's driving, seat belt on, talking on mobile, smoking a spliff, wearing a Burrburry cap etc. Had to de-tint a couple with 50%. We've been told by the manufacturers (no names mentioned) that VOSA are OK with 65%.
LEO'n'DARTZ
Mar 20 2007, 02:52 AM
QUOTE (Tint Technology @ Mar 19 2007, 07:30 PM) [*]491277[/*] We now only tint fronts with 65%, have been for 2 years, never had a come back. Police only want to see who's driving, seat belt on, talking on mobile, smoking a spliff, wearing a Burrburry cap etc. Had to de-tint a couple with 50%. We've been told by the manufacturers (no names mentioned) that VOSA are OK with 65%.   Are these no mentioned person can go to court insted somebody? Not sure... Only  will change lwas. But seems only Leo need NORMAL tint laws
Tint Technology
Mar 21 2007, 05:48 PM
Tough one Leo, everybody wants the fronts done, do you give away business to the local guy round the corner that doesn't give a sh1t  We use Sunguard 65% on the fronts and have never had to de-tint, the police are only interested in 35%+
LEO'n'DARTZ
Mar 21 2007, 11:53 PM
I have 80%, 77% e.t.c. on stock here. Also I have lot of so-called "ceramic" So we tint, tint, tint...We are fully booked - but TINT LAW MUST DIE!!!Leo
Dr.Window
Apr 19 2007, 04:37 AM
Greetings once again, news from Portugal, window films in cars = 30-150€ Nice ?? Kill those bastards that do laws according to the way they have their buts seated in wealty sofas...
LEO'n'DARTZ
Apr 23 2007, 11:13 AM
I think will have time later to fight with this lawZ. No EWFA want to do that. I have no time, but as I see itès needed.......... So - lets do it!!!!
Dr.Window
Apr 24 2007, 08:33 AM
Yeah Leo Lets kick some arses and roll!! I want to see some heads  ! I've been in contact with the minister for the automotive rules in Portugal and the only thing he told me so far is that it is going to be legal soon! how soon ?  but hoppely this year! Me and my retailers already have a waiting list of about 300 cars to be done, just waiting to be legal to do it! I'm going to be rich wen it's legal
bgtint
Apr 7 2008, 01:18 PM
What is the law in EU for front and rear windows. I'm planning to be tinting some cars in Bulgaria this summer. I will be bringing film from USA.
LEO'n'DARTZ
Apr 8 2008, 07:16 AM
QUOTE (bgtint @ Apr 7 2008, 02:18 PM) [*]611934[/*] What is the law in EU for front and rear windows. I'm planning to be tinting some cars in Bulgaria this summer. I will be bringing film from USA. Isn't Greece closer to You? We have big stock there
wialniaz
Jun 24 2008, 04:16 PM
Hi everyone,
I would like to have some information about dealing with tint law enforcement in Western Europe. Here in Lithuania (and i'm sure it's the same story in Poland) police is very easy to bribe, as for a little tip you will continue with your journey, whatever the VLT percentage is.
But we are going to have a trip through Europe (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Monaco, France) and our BMW's windows will definitely be extensively tinted. Even the windshields. I was wondering about how police reacts to such cars. I have travelled through those countries before, i practically never encountered a wandering police car in Germany, neither France. But I know there are many of them "masked" in ordinary road cars which could get us busted.
Could anyone tell the fines you need to pay in those countries? And especially Switzerland, they are so unbelievably strict in everything automotive, i hope there will be no problems entering the country? I know you need to buy a highway sticker there at the border, so i just hope there will be no police to deal with our windows too.
If anyone could inform me about this, i'd be very grateful.
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