Tinting Skylights to eliminate glare

I did a job a year ago with silver 20 on some skylighlites and they call me back saying the tint is fading because of too much glare. I checked it out and it is not fading. 20 is not enough to eliminate the eye strain. I know i can tint another layer, but they dont want to pay again, but they do want more windows done. Would I be better off putting white frost on? What works best for you with the lowest risk of glass breakage.

if a 20% is not makeing enough difference, a white frost will make it WORSE.

It will turn those skylites into big flouresent looking windows.



Had a set off windows that had glare comming in from a northen window. Put up white frost..... made glare worse

Hanitatek is coming out with a 5% Dual Reflective that is Dual Pane safe, that is an option or there is Panarama's Slate 10.

Any ide when this is suppose to be out?

i've used the slate 10 for skylights

What is the absortion on this film ? warranty?

I have a place that wants to knock out glare on top windows that are 29" x 66" thermo..I don't think silver will knock out enough glare for him

49% solar absorptance

lifetime res. warranty
12 year comm. warranty

Too high IMO for thermo

48% is my cut-off but i've never had a single problem with this film. and it is pre-approved for thermo application.

My Llu Llu dealer won't approve anything over 40%...too cautious perhaps

wouldn't that exclude half their almighty films?

Is there a PPV channel where I can find out what you REALLY said

Know a Vista dealer?

V14... VLT of 10... SA of 48% on 3mm dual clear...

If it's approved why not a LLu product? Very conservative IMO...

Im not a Vista dealer

Try Madico's SL180. It's in there Sunscape Select line.
Its a little darker than Panorama's Slate 10.
We have used it on skylights when the customer wants as much glare reduction as possible.
Never had a problem with it.

never put silver 20 on skylights, never. do you no good,

frost, too bright!

dual reflective film like everyone else said, i know about breakage. i usually stay away from skylights.

sl180 isnt darker then slate 10. slate10 is the darkest film and most heat rejected film for dual pane. Until optitune 5 comes out.

Blade were those numbers for slate10 or optitune?

That sound like a possiblity. I could use Slate 10, but I was a little leary of the higher absortion.

Do you think slate would make that much of a difference over the silver 20? Its only 10%, most people can not tell the diff between 50-60.

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what the hell is optitune? i was reading the numbers right out of my panarama booklet.

If the home owner doesn't know, how can you tell if it's tempered??


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are you kidding me? 90% of the skylights i've tinted are done in silver 20

same here ..no matter what brand

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Not true.
Slate 10 has only 13% VLT and 41% solar absorbance, with a TSER of 80%
SL-180 is 8% VLT - 41% solar absorbance and a TSER of 83%

I've been installing a fair bit of the SL-180 on duel pane glass and it has preformed great. I won't install it on round or low-e windows, but on everything else, its been fine. If you have access to it, check it out

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yes, sl180 is dual reflective. I just worked on a 40,000 sq job with sl180. Didnt know it had better numbers then slate 10 though.

optitune is solar zones dual reflective, they have a 15 percent with 80 tser and 12 vlt with an absorbtion of 38.

Yep, the Sl 180 - 280 - 380 are duel reflective.
Cool, the optitune sounds like another similar film. Wonder if they will make it longer than 72" Didn't they make 78"rolls?

then your some lucky bastards!

ever since i did a few in a home, damn skylight cracked in half and drop the ground upon starting on the second set! thank god i was below it, or else. stayed away ever since

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im not sure if they have it in 78 inch rolls, but Im pretty sure they have larger then 72' in some safty films but im not sure if they do.

I don't think we're lucky TINT..but the other way around ..you were unlucky..any manufacturer I've dealt with in the last 10 yrs has "OK"ed thier version of silver 20..I'm thinking that either a defective pane of glass(the film will aggravate it) or partial shading over that pane is all I can think of...I don't blame you for shying away..I would have as well if it happened the first time I put it on.

those numbers are true for 1/8th" clear glass. i posted the numbers for 1/4" (which is more common)

Velux a popular Skylight uses Lami outer and Tempered inner, if memory serves me correctly.

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For All you thet are tinting sky lites.
I hope you have liability insurance!

Tempered glass.
What happens when it shatters.
One big sheet of plastic on the heads below.

There are some window film companys that will void the waranty if you tint skylites with their products.

I have seen some installers anchor the window with 995 ?

The first thing in a liable law suit
" you knew the risk why did you go ahead and tint those windows"

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wow...something shiatty must have happened to you. it's still not going to change whether i tint them or not though. i've never had a problem in all my years and only few problems on windows other than skylights. and it's shiatty enough being 20 feet up on a ladder in a 4ft. cubicle when it's 140 degrees or hotter but to go back up there when done to put some Dow 995 on????? not me.

oh.....and welcome to the board nice to have members here with the amount of experience you say you have.

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totally with you on that.

it is why im very cautious about doing "residential" jobs in particular, if your nto careful you can get yourself in a bigasss lawsuit waiting to happen.

Yep... the way things are today and all... too many look to retirement through lawsuits...

Which brings to mind a quote by basketball coaching legend John Wooden:

I have done close to 100 skylight jobs. Haven't got a call back yet. I have walked away from some questional ones though. Most of the installs have been on Velux skylight. I mostly use R-20 and some R 35.

Did a courthouse for a dealer down in Baton Rouge back in May with some N1020B and it was a solarium kinda set up. the scaffolding that was built for it cost 10g's it was 40 feet tall and 150 feet long (not real sure about the length) but it was alot of shyst. The job was 3000 sq.

Anyways the dood drops us off 3 boxes and we start tinting get about 15 of the skylights tinted and I get down to get some water and look at the mock up piece and then the ones we put up and they were N1020 not N1020B, dood had mixed the wrong box in and that the one we started with. First day on the job and it was noon gotten a pretty good chunk started and then had to rip all that shyst down and start over. And those 15 were the skylights, we did 6 triangles on the sides too.

Oh and the windows were dual pane and it was like 100 degrees outside. The windows were hot as sh|t.

It's great to see the + feedback.

I myself have never had any trouble with a law suit over sky-lites.
I just don't do them.
Commercial or Residential

I may be wrong but any sky-lite I have ever seen is tempered Incl Velux.
This is a standard for safety.

The standard for risk management is.
If there is a safety risk you either fix it or you remove it.

No matter what job you do you will always have the risk of liability lawsuits
Lets face it we are working in a sue happy society.
Cover you But's

I have been involed in court action for attempted breakin with security films
The thief did not get in but, the owner thought different.
Lots of money and a good lawyer.

I guess or films are ment to stop a trucks!

When you are involved in safety or security make sure you have everything covered.
There are installers and window film suppliers that EXAGGERATED CLAIMS on the products.
This is going to hurt all of us in the long run.

Look at the claims of FILM USE FOR HURRICANE PROTECTION.

Nuf said.

I have been tinting since 1978 and my fingers are sore!

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amen to that.....