anyone still do this

ok so im bidding against this guy here and his big selling point and reasoning why he charges so much is because he takes out the seals and installs the film all the way to the edge of the glass he says to" avoid glass breakage problems by eliminating the gap of clear glass around the edge so that there isnt a difference in heat retention in the window" and also so there is no " ugly gap" around the edge. sooooooo what do you do on a wood framed window??? take a sawsall to it?this is the kind of @#$% i have to deal w/ here. along w/ some dumbass old man selling v$sta film for 2$ a square and under.

I also do the gasket technique, have for ever now, you get a tinted glass look, dont know about the heat speal ? with the wooden doors etc we have some wood turner tools that get rid of 1-2mm of timber and silocone paint etc, no gaps nice!!!as for the cheepys they will always be with us unfortunatly rise above them a get good selling techniques...




Oz...........

im interested in the wood turning tool

not good at postin pics, but it basically 5-6" long wooden handle with a 1"long V shaped steel bit on the end that has been sharpened the V would only 2-3mm each V, dont even know the proper term, used to carve wood sculptures..




Oz...........

How dark is the film that you want to put up?

If it is 50% or lighter, the gap should not be a big deal...

Old guy selling Vista for $2.xx/ft will probably keel over and die because he aint gonna make a living selling it for that much. we all know how much it costs.

It looks nice but it will not prevent weak glass from cracking. Besides, if you are consulting the F2G chart and follow the guidlines, breakage is not likely to happen.

I agree light films no probs, only sorta 60% and up





Oz..........

You mean a chisel? No way, you've really tried that on glass???

I think a chisel is just the flat type, this is a V shape??

not sure if the Ozy term is different???

so you are hard up against the wood and guiding on top of the glass, pressure is on the wood.




Oz..........

Look all I can say is "goodonthebloke" for setting himself apart from all of whom he would consider as being normal tinters.
Let's just hope he gets a good price for the jobs he quotes as this can only lift profitability for all.
Devil

Even if you could pull that off. I could see it taking a long time to finish a window. Then there is the contamination issue... I don't know? I'd try and sell em some 60% Spectrally Select Film and tell him it will perform as well as the dark stuff but you'll never know it is on the window... End of light gap issue.

I quickly just run it a round the edges prior to starting the fit, for the purpose of just removing the loose bits i.e. paint silicone etc just before the normal scrap, scourer, flush, squeegee process, gets rid ov the daggy bits.

yes it is always nice to do the lighter films but on the odd ocassion they want or need glare or fade etc
not trying to change anyones stlye just happened to answer the first post and i dont use this process if the windows are putty fit now thats a different story, i understand the doubt but it can save some time on fingers and dirt issues especially on the 6"x10" paneled doors at the end of the job i find the film to be sitting nicely

I did a couple of years of glazing before I started tinting which gave me some knowledge on glass & frames etc





Oz...........

won't work as well as the dark stuff if he's trying to eliminate glare on his computer screen or tv.

The dark stuff won't eliminate the glare as well as most couch potatos would like. Time for a blind if that is the case.

true enough...can't make everyone happy.

true that, but hell, i woudn mind making 3$ per sq ft

Running the film to the edge isn't anything to do with thermal fracture and temp difference... what a bunch of baloney... The film/glass inside the frame is still shaded therefore still cooler than the exposed glass...

Call it creative marketing. He just creates whatever story he needs to market his product and service.

Hmmm... reminds me of another discussion all together....

Isn't it so... they're everywhere and in every industry...

Doesnt it just get back to fitting a product better than the next, fittment is everything as we all know (the heat speel is )





Oz............

Well there's a flagship Vista Dealer involved too and he isn't helping to make things better...