Tint and PPF pattern software/shareware
CJ Shades
Jan 21 2006, 07:17 PM
I am new to the whole plotter cutting method and just wondered if there is any way to cut window film and PPF without subscribing to a certain companies sofware?
And if you do subscribe, can you download the patterns and save them to hard drive then cancel your subscription?
What is a list of software that is used to do this? Can it be converted to say Adobe or or a sign making software of some type?
From what I see the whole paying for some companies software and then the subscription kinda nullifies the saving of time/labor costs. Is there an underground shareware site for window tinters trying to save a buck or pull one over on "the man?"
chris@fixmywatch.com
Stratusrtrida
Jan 21 2006, 08:22 PM
Yea. I have had the same thoughts. The idea of paying $150 a month is crazy. I found a place that only charged $7 a download and they stopped charging you after $150 for that month. It was also only $500 for the software. Its the cheapest one around I have seen and the guy said there was vehicles dating back to the 60's of some models. I don't know how true this was or how good the quality is, but its the cheapest one I have seen anywhere. Most companies want $2500 for the software and $150 a month to use it. I think thats kinda ridiculas.
Let me know how you make out...
Nick
Al-tint
Jan 21 2006, 08:22 PM
You may sidestep it for awhile, but you will never avoid death, taxes and "the man".
Speedy80
Jan 22 2006, 12:39 AM
Hi im also new to the whole plotter cutting method and i was wondering where i can buy the softwares you named and wich one you recommend.
tintslut
Jan 22 2006, 04:45 AM
(Stratusrtrida @ Jan 22 2006, 12:22 AM) Yea. I have had the same thoughts. The idea of paying $150 a month is crazy. I found a place that only charged $7 a download and they stopped charging you after $150 for that month. It was also only $500 for the software. Its the cheapest one around I have seen and the guy said there was vehicles dating back to the 60's of some models. I don't know how true this was or how good the quality is, but its the cheapest one I have seen anywhere. Most companies want $2500 for the software and $150 a month to use it. I think thats kinda ridiculas. Let me know how you make out... Nick [*]363583[/*] how about a link to this software ???
metint
Jan 22 2006, 02:14 PM
(CJ Shades @ Jan 21 2006, 10:17 PM) I am new to the whole plotter cutting method and just wondered if there is any way to cut window film and PPF without subscribing to a certain companies sofware? And if you do subscribe, can you download the patterns and save them to hard drive then cancel your subscription? What is a list of software that is used to do this? Can it be converted to say Adobe or or a sign making software of some type? From what I see the whole paying for some companies software and then the subscription kinda nullifies the saving of time/labor costs. Is there an underground shareware site for window tinters trying to save a buck or pull one over on "the man?" chris@fixmywatch.com [*]363564[/*] (Stratusrtrida @ Jan 21 2006, 11:22 PM) Yea. I have had the same thoughts. The idea of paying $150 a month is crazy. I found a place that only charged $7 a download and they stopped charging you after $150 for that month. It was also only $500 for the software. Its the cheapest one around I have seen and the guy said there was vehicles dating back to the 60's of some models. I don't know how true this was or how good the quality is, but its the cheapest one I have seen anywhere. Most companies want $2500 for the software and $150 a month to use it. I think thats kinda ridiculas. Let me know how you make out... Nick [*]363583[/*] $150 a month is 1/2 - 1 tint job out of how many per month? If you have to ask, cut 'em yourself and save everything.
Stratusrtrida
Jan 22 2006, 05:29 PM
well thats kinda my point...how many a month, right now im running it out of my house. I think ill just cut it by hand for now. But, if there was a cheaper alternative to using a plotter i would def doing seeing i already own a plotter.
Nick
CJ Shades
Jan 23 2006, 05:42 PM
(metint @ Jan 22 2006, 02:14 PM) $150 a month is 1/2 - 1 tint job out of how many per month? If you have to ask, cut 'em yourself and save everything.  [*]363754[/*] Well first of all $150 is almost the entire tint job, or the power bill, or the phone bill, or another roll of film or....... No matter what, it's still $150! or $1800 per year for a template that should be able to be saved and shared. Can I download the entire data base and save it to my computer? Basically what your saying is plotter and tint cut software is only for high volume shops? Screw the little guy! I wish I could pull $300 out of my local customers pockets for a basic 4 door. I f I were to give them a $300 quote they wouldn't come to me, and they would probably tell their freinds not to come to me. So I am assuming the answer to my question is "NO." How about answering this question for me. If I submit to "the man" and pay for the software and pay for the subscription, can I save the templates that I download or do I have to re-download it every time I want to cut a window? Do I have to always have an internet connection to be able to use it?
TINTDESIGNZ
Jan 23 2006, 05:57 PM
You 've got it all wrong-you dont save it to your computer -your $150 gets you access to all the database for one month. Thats about $5 a day! Worth evry penny!
SIR TINTSALOT
Jan 23 2006, 09:59 PM
is it necessary for ppf?
CJ Shades
Jan 23 2006, 10:42 PM
(TINTDESIGNZ @ Jan 23 2006, 05:57 PM) You 've got it all wrong-you dont save it to your computer -your $150 gets you access to all the database for one month. Thats about $5 a day! Worth evry penny!  [*]364215[/*] So you obviously have to be married to the internet! For a high volume shop i'm sure it's well worth it, but what happens if you can't connect to the internet? There has to be a better way!!! Someone has had to convert these patterns to something like adobe illustrator or corell by now!
TintWizard
Jan 24 2006, 05:29 AM
Take this how you may..but I'm personally will not contribute in helping anyone here on TD's website forum on ideas on how to steal software or rip off fellow/former tinters that have put a lot of time and money into developing these programs to make tinters life a little more pleasant. If you like it, buy it, don't steal it. As mentioned above..if you could TRULY benefit from using a cutting pattern program..then it's a small price to pay..if you don't have an assembly line operation, then just hand cut it as I do
blade
Jan 24 2006, 07:31 AM
i don't have an assembly line tintshop. just me and (sometimes) one other guy and i think it's worth it to have access to the computercut site. it's a money maker. not just tint and PPF, i do enough in stupid little vinyl decals to make it worth it.
tigerstripe
Jan 24 2006, 08:35 AM
(TintWizard @ Jan 24 2006, 06:29 AM) Take this how you may..but I'm personally will not contribute in helping anyone here on TD's website forum on ideas on how to steal software or rip off fellow/former tinters that have put a lot of time and money into developing these programs to make tinters life a little more pleasant. If you like it, buy it, don't steal it. As mentioned above..if you could TRULY benefit from using a cutting pattern program..then it's a small price to pay..if you don't have an assembly line operation, then just hand cut it as I do  [*]364381[/*] well put tw if you cant afford to buy the access, then why try to steal it? there is a company that lets you download patterns 2 times a month, and then you can access the patterns without logging on. but you cant keep the paterns without getting the new licence each month. just like you want to make $$ so does the companies that developed the software.
metint
Jan 24 2006, 01:46 PM
Adding to Tiger's
Another company's fee is $1500 the first year, which includes software, ppf pattern library, auto film library, graphics library and internet dowload of updates available end of the day every Friday (provided any addtions or changes have been made and an email notice indicates they're available)...
Yes, installed to your HD. Internet access is only needed to update. Each year subscription beginning with the second year costs $1500 annually.
CJ Shades
Jan 24 2006, 09:56 PM
(metint @ Jan 24 2006, 01:46 PM) Adding to Tiger's Another company's fee is $1500 the first year, which includes software, ppf pattern library, auto film library, graphics library and internet dowload of updates available end of the day every Friday (provided any addtions or changes have been made and an email notice indicates they're available)... Yes, installed to your HD. Internet access is only needed to update. Each year subscription beginning with the second year costs $1500 annually. [*]364492[/*] Now that's what i'm talkin about! It's not about just stealing the software, it's about not having to be entangled in the world wide web to get John Schmuckatelli's 79 Ford Pinto's patterns cut. I still don't see a reason I can't just BUY a set of discs that has all the patterns on it! Sure, updates should be done online, but there is no reason you shouldn't be able to buy a disc witha catalog of patterns on it. It's only a matter of time before we will be able to use your basic sign making software to do it anyway.
SIR TINTSALOT
Jan 24 2006, 11:41 PM
true
tintslut
Jan 25 2006, 05:55 AM
what ? Is everbody looking for something like this to fit onto there sign cutting program ?
tigerstripe
Jan 25 2006, 07:35 AM
yoda is wise in the ways of the force.
that isnt by chance the new tint tek program thats used with flexi is it?
blade
Jan 25 2006, 09:01 AM
(CJ Shades @ Jan 24 2006, 09:56 PM) it's about not having to be entangled in the world wide web to get patterns cut. get with the times dude. being entagled in the web is an everyday thing anymore. if you weren't somewhat entangled in the web then you wouldn't be here.
TintWizard
Jan 25 2006, 09:09 AM
(blade @ Jan 25 2006, 12:01 PM) (CJ Shades @ Jan 24 2006, 09:56 PM) it's about not having to be entangled in the world wide web to get patterns cut. get with the times dude. being entagled in the web is an everyday thing anymore. if you weren't somewhat entangled in the web then you wouldn't be here.  [*]364775[/*]
TINTDESIGNZ
Jan 25 2006, 10:33 AM
Entangled in the web?  To update it takes 2 clicks and about 2 minutes a month!Then the program is like any other-you dont have to be connected to the net.
Beeline
Jan 25 2006, 11:11 AM
(metint @ Jan 22 2006, 06:14 PM) (CJ Shades @ Jan 21 2006, 10:17 PM) I am new to the whole plotter cutting method and just wondered if there is any way to cut window film and PPF without subscribing to a certain companies sofware? And if you do subscribe, can you download the patterns and save them to hard drive then cancel your subscription? What is a list of software that is used to do this? Can it be converted to say Adobe or or a sign making software of some type? From what I see the whole paying for some companies software and then the subscription kinda nullifies the saving of time/labor costs. Is there an underground shareware site for window tinters trying to save a buck or pull one over on "the man?" chris@fixmywatch.com [*]363564[/*] (Stratusrtrida @ Jan 21 2006, 11:22 PM) Yea. I have had the same thoughts. The idea of paying $150 a month is crazy. I found a place that only charged $7 a download and they stopped charging you after $150 for that month. It was also only $500 for the software. Its the cheapest one around I have seen and the guy said there was vehicles dating back to the 60's of some models. I don't know how true this was or how good the quality is, but its the cheapest one I have seen anywhere. Most companies want $2500 for the software and $150 a month to use it. I think thats kinda ridiculas. Let me know how you make out... Nick [*]363583[/*] $150 a month is 1/2 - 1 tint job out of how many per month? If you have to ask, cut 'em yourself and save everything.  [*]363754[/*]
CJ Shades
Jan 25 2006, 11:21 AM
Blade- I'm trying to get with the times...dude! Thats why i'm here. The way everyone put it at first was you have to log on to the net to cut a pattern. I don't want to rely on my internet connection and modem to cut out a pattern. Like I said before, I don't mind updating via internet, I just don't want to be forced to log on everytime I need a pattern cut.
Yoda, thx. You've been helpful.
With most of the replies I have seen I am starting to believe the rumor of "every window tinter thinks their the best" is true. Some cocky mofo's in here.
Thanks to those that have actualy reponded with good information.
TintWizard
Jan 25 2006, 11:56 AM
(CJ Shades @ Jan 25 2006, 02:21 PM) With most of the replies I have seen I am starting to believe the rumor of "every window tinter thinks their the best" is true. Some cocky mofo's in here. [*]364810[/*] Can you please back this statement up. I've read this thread 2X and only see members answering your question seriously and some with a bit of harmless humor...can't find any post where a member is showing themselves off as "thinking thier the best" ...please point them out
blade
Jan 25 2006, 12:23 PM
man...i can't say anything around here anymore without offending someone.
i hardly think i'm the best. and never posted anything to make anyone think that.
TITAN500
Jan 25 2006, 12:40 PM
Hey blade....I think you are the best,and I find you only mildly offensive
TINTDESIGNZ
Jan 25 2006, 12:47 PM
That rumor should be the tinters motto-because if your not the best-or atleast striving to be as good as the best then you are in the wrong profession!
tigerstripe
Jan 25 2006, 01:17 PM
I offend thee.
CJ Shades
Jan 25 2006, 01:26 PM
I didn't even have time to respond and my comment was backed up by tintdesignz.
A bunch have posted that $150 is only half a tint job. I couldn't squeez $300 out of my customers for a basic tint job. So if you're getting $300 per car you obviously think you're the best. Some places up here offer $120 specials. So basically in order for them to pay for their subscription they have to tint a car for free every month. I personally would rather buy food with that money.
I didn't make the rumor up myself, another tinter said it to me. No one here came out and said they were the best, but attitudes speak for themselves.
Obviously I won't find what i'm looking for here so I will stop the search. Thanks for the info that was helpful.
Speedy80
Feb 6 2006, 08:36 AM
So all this talk about this program so is there any one who know where you can buy this program or patterns???????
TintWizard
Feb 6 2006, 08:46 AM
If you are serious about getting into computer cutting patterns and programs, I can refere you to someone to answer all your questions
Speedy80
Feb 7 2006, 07:43 AM
(TintWizard @ Feb 6 2006, 06:46 PM) If you are serious about getting into computer cutting patterns and programs, I can refere you to someone to answer all your questions  [*]368997[/*] "Yea. I have had the same thoughts. The idea of paying $150 a month is crazy. I found a place that only charged $7 a download and they stopped charging you after $150 for that month. It was also only $500 for the software. Its the cheapest one around I have seen and the guy said there was vehicles dating back to the 60's of some models. I don't know how true this was or how good the quality is, but its the cheapest one I have seen anywhere. Most companies want $2500 for the software and $150 a month to use it. I think thats kinda ridiculas. Let me know how you make out... Nick" Yes iám serious about it, i tried to ask the guys here about the computer cutting patterns and programs, but did get the answer that its not so god, but some guys are talking about that its so good and someone (Nick) have found a very cheap program. But no answer about where i can get it from.
TintWizard
Feb 7 2006, 09:53 AM
Speedy..make one more post ..that'll make 25 which means I can PM you a reference
TintWizard
Feb 7 2006, 09:55 AM
(Speedy80 @ Feb 7 2006, 10:43 AM) I found a place that only charged $7 a download and they stopped charging you after $150 for that month. It was also only $500 for the software. [*]369346[/*] I'm curious as to which company this is
Speedy80
Feb 7 2006, 01:41 PM
(TintWizard @ Feb 7 2006, 07:55 PM) (Speedy80 @ Feb 7 2006, 10:43 AM) I found a place that only charged $7 a download and they stopped charging you after $150 for that month. It was also only $500 for the software. [*]369346[/*] I'm curious as to which company this is  [*]369372[/*] Same here i´m curious to  I´m waiting for your answer, thank for your help mean a lot to me.
tigerstripe
Feb 7 2006, 03:43 PM
I know exspell used to be like that, but I think they have a new pricing structure now.
Porsche032
Mar 2 2006, 04:35 PM
(tigerstripe @ Feb 7 2006, 03:43 PM) I know exspell used to be like that, but I think they have a new pricing structure now. [*]369474[/*] This had to be the most worthless thread i have seen. No one posted 1 link in the whole thread that could have answered the question. A lot of you claim you know a company with certain prices but you dont post a link. Whats the point? Is it a big secret?
TintWizard
Mar 2 2006, 04:59 PM
(Porsche032 @ Mar 2 2006, 07:35 PM) This had to be the most worthless thread i have seen. No one posted 1 link in the whole thread that could have answered the question. [*]377650[/*] I can only speak for myself when I say I knew of one place, and Pm'ed Speedy the information he needed phone number, key contact person, he then Pmed me back thanking me for the information that I passed along to him. Ask Speedy if it was a worthless thread and if nothing got answered. We don't post links for prices or promote specific companies on this forum. That's not what it's here for.
zolar
Mar 2 2006, 05:29 PM
(Porsche032 @ Mar 2 2006, 07:35 PM) (tigerstripe @ Feb 7 2006, 03:43 PM) I know exspell used to be like that, but I think they have a new pricing structure now. [*]369474[/*] This had to be the most worthless thread i have seen. No one posted 1 link in the whole thread that could have answered the question. A lot of you claim you know a company with certain prices but you dont post a link. Whats the point? Is it a big secret?  [*]377650[/*] out of respect for the industry we don't publish prices for film or our service outside of the subscriber area we don't all pay the same price, even though we use the same film we don't all charge the same price, and don't want to get in a national price war with our friends here the same goes for software and plotters many prices in our industry are negotiable I would call the companies directly, they each have different programs, and benefits, and pricing good luck
Porsche032
Mar 2 2006, 07:18 PM
sorry having a bad day . Can someone please pm me some links too. I was also interested in the one that was 7 dollars for an outline or something like that. Or anything else that doesnt have a crazy subscription price. Thanks
TintWizard
Mar 2 2006, 07:28 PM
(Porsche032 @ Mar 2 2006, 10:18 PM) sorry having a bad day . Can someone please pm me some links too. I was also interested in the one that was 7 dollars for an outline or something like that. Or anything else that doesnt have a crazy subscription price. Thanks [*]377709[/*] Don't we all ..no worries The only ones I know of are the pricier ones as well..
CUTNEDG
Mar 15 2006, 02:11 PM
(zolar @ Mar 2 2006, 07:29 PM) I would call the companies directly, they each have different programs, and benefits, and pricing I would LIKE to call the companies directly... but in three pages of posts NO COMPANY NAMES, LOCATIONS, or WEB ADRESSSES have been given? Help us out, please?!?!?
Porsche032
Mar 15 2006, 07:27 PM
(CUTNEDG @ Mar 15 2006, 02:11 PM) (zolar @ Mar 2 2006, 07:29 PM) I would call the companies directly, they each have different programs, and benefits, and pricing I would LIKE to call the companies directly... but in three pages of posts NO COMPANY NAMES, LOCATIONS, or WEB ADRESSSES have been given? Help us out, please?!?!? [*]382181[/*] email me at porsche032@yahoo.com and ill send you links.
blade
Mar 16 2006, 06:38 AM
swanny
Mar 16 2006, 08:20 AM
I tell you what if everyone could pay me a fee I would go out and design the patterns for every one that is on the list you would pay a monthly fee would not be 150 dollars per month and no 7 to 15 dollar fee to down load you would get monthly up dates and they would be yours to cut out as much as you need . you would have to buy your own software probablly flexie sign that is what i use . the more people on board the better the price. just something to think about
CJ Shades
Mar 17 2006, 03:38 PM
I just found a company that supplies a full cd of PPF patterns that you download to your computer. (Cars, Trucks, Mtorcycles, Headlights) The only time you log on is to update your pattern list for free. All they ask is that you buy your film from them. Cha ching!
scarcustoms
Mar 23 2006, 01:07 PM
What all does this monthly fee include.
tintslut
Jan 28 2007, 04:18 PM
How about an update here... Anyone selling tint patterns other than
Proline, TintTek, Computer Cut or Precision Cut ?
toodark
Jan 28 2007, 07:50 PM
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