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tintjake
the back window has a tough curve at the bottom, i need help in finding the trick to getting this window to turn out nice. HELP.
FastBackJack
That window is a b***h and a 1/2. Send it down the road. Flaugh.gif
TintDude
welcome to tintdude.com tintjake. That car is one of the few that's not worth doing in my opinion. I agree with FBJ, send that puppy down the road.
oldtinter
QUOTE
need help in finding the trick to getting this window to turn out nice. HELP.

It would end up as the only nice thing on the car. spit.gif
tintslut
Flaugh.gif ,,,give said car owner the number to a scrap yard
Zrok
just do it in as many pieces as it takes and get it down the rizzoad thumb.gif
blackglass
hay I got a beretta and I was going to redo it, should I 1 piece 90% of the top and 2nd piece the bottom? would that work? it looks normal most of the way, what do you think? hmmmmmmm.gif
Mdog
i do them in 2 and straight seam them at the bottom of the glass around the factory label, and thats about 3 inches up from the bottom on the side. i dont bother trying to seam it on the bottom defroster. i just do it the quickest and easiest way i know, those cars suck ass Flaugh.gif

check out the drawing spit.gif
S and S
I agree the suck ass!!!!
Tint Master
did 1 in 7 pieces 3in at bottom and didnt even fire up heat gun owner loved it alc2.gif woowoo.gif woowoo.gif :booga thumb.gif hmmmmmmm.gif
DJ Malachai
Hey there,

You shouldn't have any problem doing it in 2 pieces on the rear window of the Beretta.

as for all of these "Beretta sucks ass" people...

I'm sure you have a great idea as to why a Beretta sucks ass. I'm sure you'd all love to tell me why you think they suck ass. Seeing that I own a 1990 Beretta 3.1L V6 with over 250k miles on it that hasn't blown up yet and actually runs extremely well, I may think you're just F.O.S.

Perhaps someone in a Beretta with a High Output engine, a Stage II supercharger, a Cold Air Induction, custom valve guides/camshaft/pistons/headers/etc. pulled you out and owned you at a stoplight and you're pissed off.

Waah.

DJ Malachai
1990 Chevrolet Beretta 3.1L V6
Dynoed at
180hp@4925rpm
210ft-lbs@4000rpm
Best 1/4 - 15.21 @ 94.65 mph
Jasper Rebuilt 3.1L V6
No SuperCharger/No NOS
Cold Air Intake System/K&N Filter
59mm Throttle Body
Ported Upper and Lower Intake Manifold
Ported Heads
DIS Ignition system
Crane Cam
Aluminum pulley kit
Sports Pistons
High Volume Oil Pump
Performance Flywheel
.....

neener! ricers beware! thumb.gif
metint
QUOTE (DJ Malachai @ Sep 26 2003, 05:52 AM)
as for all of these "Beretta sucks ass" people...

From a tinting the back glass standpoint... Beretta's suck wind...

I am sure with the stats listed, your Beretta was not the target of ridicule, just the glass. thumb.gif
Smoked
QUOTE (DJ Malachai @ Sep 26 2003, 05:52 AM)
Perhaps someone in a Beretta with a High Output engine, a Stage II supercharger, a Cold Air Induction, custom valve guides/camshaft/pistons/headers/etc. pulled you out and owned you at a stoplight and you're pissed off.

Waah.

DJ Malachai
1990 Chevrolet Beretta 3.1L V6
Dynoed at
180hp@4925rpm
210ft-lbs@4000rpm
Best 1/4 - 15.21 @ 94.65 mph
Jasper Rebuilt 3.1L V6
No SuperCharger/No NOS
Cold Air Intake System/K&N Filter
59mm Throttle Body
Ported Upper and Lower Intake Manifold
Ported Heads
DIS Ignition system
Crane Cam
Aluminum pulley kit
Sports Pistons
High Volume Oil Pump
Performance Flywheel

Ummm.... ? Whatever, cuz. Tell you what. When you get that POS into the tens or nines, where the big dogs run. You can post your 1/4 mile times. Until then, just stick to the 15 second club, okay buddy. Besides, I think a Yugo did a 1/4 mile stock in like the 18 second range... so that 15 second timeslip.... IMO, I wouldn't post it again. Thanks, though, for your non-window tinting input. thumb.gif
blackglass
I can do them in 2 pieces, doesen't mean you can I own a beretta and everything in the back glass is tint except for the red dot thumb.gif
blackglass
I just did that and beretta's bg SUCKS a$$ just to make it perfectly clear... I got a 94 cutlass tomarrow
bogie
I have had good success doing them in two pieces, splice on bottom defroster. I install the top first; let it set up a little then put in the second piece. Immediately get it out into the sun then stretch and hold the corners diagonally.
It's a total pain though, and will take about twice as long as most back glass apps.
Good luck
Zrok
i also agree that these cars suck, the doors never stay open, the back glass takes too long to tint, the doors have that crappy frit edge, that doesn't let you hide much film, and that beveled edge sucks too, oh, and the seat belts on the doors poop.gif not one of GM's better designed cars IMO...oh, and 15 seconds for a V6?? that car should go faster..maybe it's too heave, you need a honda thumb.gif sweat.gif oh, and a honda odyssey has 230 hp stock dude...thats a minivan...if you're gonna drag a car, get one that can actually perform sweat.gif
DJ Malachai
Hey,

Actually your stock Beretta pushes about anywhere from 15.9-16.3 depending on how well-maintained the engine and all other essential driving parts are. There are various other factors which effect the horsepower [AC condenser, etc].

Wow, a yugo runs 18's. Blah. My girlfriend's Sunfire stock runs low 16's. What's your point?

As for the beretta owner. Nice back window.

The only problem I have had with the Beretta's doors staying open is on my driver's side and when it is on an incline. My doors lock in place and have a tendency to stay open as long as there isn't some large gust of wind or they are not on an incline, and then only my driver's 'side door closes.

The door panels are a pain in the ass in the Beretta but to someone who knows how to work on them they are very easy to handle. In fact, not only are they easy to handle but the parts on them are EXTREMELY replaceable with different textures and color schemes.

As for suck-ass japanese rice wagons. Listen man, I guarantee you that I can remove my throttle body, remove my upper intake manifold, replace all of my gaskets, replace my PVC valve, change my oil, and do a fluid check before you could even remotely try to do anything to a Honda. Not only that, I'll do it for less money. Fact of the matter is that GM cars are the cheapest and easiest to repair.

I also never saw Honda make an INDY PACE CAR.

So blah.

It's not the only car I own. I have a 1989 Cavalier Z24 restored, a 1989 Jaguar XJS restored, my 1990 Beretta 3.1L and my girlfriends 1998 Sunfire GT. People typically like my Jaguar more than anything else but I tell you it's more fun driving my Beretta. :P I'm too worried about dinging up anything on my Jaguar to race it :P

And I know my Jaguar would make a honda look sick. :P

DJ Malachai
DJ Malachai
[for some reason there was no Edit button for my post]

I Forgot to mention that if you are ever going to buy a Jaguar make SURE you have a Beretta....

That way you have a car to run off to get parts for the Jaguar in...Because all rich people know you need to own TWO Jaguars: one to keep in the shop and one to drive.

As for me not being a "tinter". Listen, I came to this forum because I own 4 cars and only one of them is tinted. I wanted to see how economically sound it would be for me to try tinting my own windows. As I can see that it's probably something akin to removing my engine and rebuilding it, I do not think that I have the patience to tint. I might. Right now I'm more concerned with maintainence on my cars.

However, I do have questions about film. On my girlfriend's car it's just some regular film. Someone wants me to get 3M on my Beretta because it gets hotter than her car did. He said 3M on the Beretta will give me a better heat reduction than the regular tint.

Is this true?

DJ Malachai
DJ Malachai
As for a Minivan....

A minivan SHOULD have more horsepower than my car. A MINIVAN is a. heavier, b. meant to pull more passengers, c. meant to store more cargo.

What really amazes me is the new Saturn I heard about on the radio. The new Saturn SUV..."with 140hp to get you there..."

The stock BERETTA runs 140hp!!!!
and it's a small CAR.

And no, a 3.1L V6 should run between the numbers I indicated. I've seen very few Berettas that could get low 14s and I saw a Cavalier z24 that had 400hp without NOS that makes my friends rebulit z28 camaro with his 12.8 1/4 mile time look sick.

My Jaguar would own them all muihahaha icon_mrgreen.gif

DJ Malachai
Who thinks they need to add an Edit option
Zrok
ok, here's an intelligent answer for an 'uninformed' consumer...what this means is that you simply don't know the answer, not meant as an insult....as far as 3M versus 'regular' tint.....'regular' tint could be anything....here's the skinny on keeping your car cooler in the summer.

1. need to know what film percentage (percent of light that passes through the film) is legal in your state.

2. keep it legal...it's safer for our children, and keeps the blood sucking attorneys looking for work.

3. there are a few 'types' of tint, 'regular' or dyed..it will fade, and will probably bubble in a few years, there's also 'metallized' which means that there's a layer of metal manufactured into the film to give it more of an insulating property in order to reject more heat....they MAY fade (get a little lighter) over several years, usually they won't change color as in from 'smoke' to purple...usually they have a lifetime warranty covering color change, or peeling, etc....there are also some hybrid films.....that contain part metal, ant part dyed, or part extruded...in MY opinion (and there are many opinions on this board) i'd go with a metallized film for longevity and heat reduction.

as for what particular brand, there are many (i personally do not install 3m, doesn't mean i don't like it, just means i don't install it) what i would do, is shop around in your area, or check out the tinters registry at the top right corner of this site.....you will want to look at some of the work that the tinter's do, check on the warranty, ask how many pieces the rear window will be in (should be done in as little as possoble to achieve a nicer look in MY opinion) also ask how long the tinter has been tinting.....hope this helps you make an informed purchase thumb.gif
TintWizard
...and to add to that....ummm, nothing really...good post Zro ! thumb.gif
metint
QUOTE (TintWizard @ Sep 27 2003, 05:18 AM)
...and to add to that....ummm, nothing really...good post Zro !  thumb.gif

I second that... :booga
metint
QUOTE (DJ Malachai @ Sep 27 2003, 04:47 AM)
DJ Malachai

[for some reason there was no Edit button for my post]

~~Need a higher degree of participation in this forum to receive the benefit of edit.


As for me not being a "tinter". Listen, I came to this forum because I own 4 cars and only one of them is tinted. I wanted to see how economically sound it would be for me to try tinting my own windows. As I can see that it's probably something akin to removing my engine and rebuilding it, I do not think that I have the patience to tint. I might. Right now I'm more concerned with maintainence on my cars.

~~Try wrapping a bowl with tin foil or paper without wrinkling it... that is as close as one can get in describing what it is like to tint auto glass.

However, I do have questions about film. On my girlfriend's car it's just some regular film. Someone wants me to get 3M on my Beretta because it gets hotter than her car did. He said 3M on the Beretta will give me a better heat reduction than the regular tint.

~~3M makes 55,000 consumer products, though other film makers may not have the benefit of a household name, their focus is usually on one product only... window film.

It's been said... shop around.

Is this true?

~~Absolutely NOT!

Simple request... can the gearhead discussion be taken up elsewhere? thumb.gif
DJ Malachai
Well,

The tint was added to my Beretta.

He used the 3M film with a lifetime guarantee.

He had to do the back window in two pieces.

It looks excellent. I will show some pics if anyone's interested.

This is the last thing I'm going to say about any talk about my "crappy Beretta" and about hanging with the "big dogs" and sticking to the 15 second bracket.

DId you happen to know that you can put a 3800 Stage II supercharged engine from a Pontiac Grand Prix or any of the other cars that came with an L67 into a Beretta?

icon_mrgreen.gif

Did you know that the fastest Beretta with the original Beretta engine is a Quad 4 which runs at 13.3 in the Quarter mile?

And, finally, you can modify a 3800 Series II in a Beretta to run mid-12's.

And that's exactly what I am going to do icon_mrgreen.gif

DJ Malachai
TintDude
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thetintshop
sweat.gif @ TD
Zrok
QUOTE (tintdude @ Sep 29 2003, 11:01 PM)
jerkit.gif

bingo.gif (and for the record, the Beretta GTZ is the fastest beretta..a friend of mine had one, it did have the quad 4 with a 5 speed, but the quad 4 is a junk motor....GM has had problems with it all kinds of problems poop.gif)
TintWizard
QUOTE (zrokewl24 @ Sep 30 2003, 05:28 AM)
QUOTE (tintdude @ Sep 29 2003, 11:01 PM)
jerkit.gif

bingo.gif (and for the record, the Beretta GTZ is the fastest beretta..a friend of mine had one, it did have the quad 4 with a 5 speed, but the quad 4 is a junk motor....GM has had problems with it all kinds of problems poop.gif)

I don't know much about the specs of cars...however I noticed thatused Beretta's are dirt cheap to buy compared to other cars of that yr. around here...guess now I know why..not that I'd ever buy one cause I don't want to tint it ! Flaugh.gif
Zrok
so you're like me then rollin.gif you make vehicle purchase decisions based on the difficulty level of the tint job sweat.gif (hmm, and i own a '93 saturn 4-door poop.gif)
TintWizard
yeah..you couldn't GIVE me a cuttlass 4dr sweat.gif
Zrok
yeah, my brother had one of those, and kept bugging me to tint it, i kept putting him off :booga he got rid of that, and got a bonneville ssei poop.gif gonna keep putting that one off too rollin.gif 9 windows?? come on ...GM coulda came up with somethng better IMO
Old Dude
Might I suggest NASCAR tearoffs!
mylude90
[QUOTE]neener! ricers beware

only for real ricers, which would include a stock civic, with a body kit, cold air, and exhaust and thinks it's fast. a 1.6 l civic COULD slaughter your berretta if the person new what they were doing to it.
skittles15
Berettas=gay cavaliers=gay my straight stock 92 mitsubishi eclipse GS DOHC will smoke your damn beretta. 15.7 ha. i run a 15.3 in a straight stock non turbo eclipse, enough about your damn GM racing shiot.
robsroom169
i did my windows on my car its a 1996 beretta 3100 sfi, heres some pics
http://www.geocities.com/yzrobbieyz/1.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/yzrobbieyz/2.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/yzrobbieyz/3.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/yzrobbieyz/4.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/yzrobbieyz/5.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/yzrobbieyz/6.JPG

o yeah by the way, now i know my car is over 200 hp, shuts off at 115
for u beretta people, unplug your ac/heater electronics in the engine to free the pully, cause its always goin even if its off, add a cheap o cold air filter, cut the f'en restrictive system apart, look under your car , wow, it goes from like 3 inches to a buldge(restrictive),to the cat. I cut my cat out and the buldge and ran all 3 inch tubing out the back, and i tell yuh what. WOW. Cause believe it or not this car rolls. Mines an automatic, but if i can find a 96(last year they made it)with a standard. I would no doubt, buy it. Seems like they lied about the stats for the last year of them. im actually looken for a way to get the rpm to go up on the automatic. I have ported upper and lower intake and huge throttle body incase somebody wants to donate me a turbo kit for this car which seems to be impossible to find. I think i can crank my car up to almost 250 in a car thats pretty light. Like they say put 400 hp in a chevelle and 300 in a civic and see who wins. hope u guys like the car its also for sale 3000 grand or best offer,
need a motorcycle. o yeah if u guys really want speed forget the cars. get a bike and hit 200mph once and see what u think about speed then. Youll definitly respect it alittle more. alot different with wind in your face pulling u off it. And think about if u crash. well keep in touch. peace
BIG E
Good HP film on a Baretta is worth more than the car if properly applied. NUF SAID!
Protint
What a waste of time and money rollin.gif rollin.gif
BigZ
the Bg looks A little Similar to the THunder Bird. ANy ways they Both SUk jerkit.gif
tintgod
QUOTE (BigZ @ Mar 31 2004, 10:46 AM)
the Bg looks A little Similar to the THunder Bird.  ANy ways they Both SUk jerkit.gif

i dont think the thunderbird window isnt that bad..but yes..the baretta window does suck. mad3.gif evileye.gif
payback
this is my first post so ill make it a good one, to the retard who said a slightly modded 1.6 honda (junk) could beat a beretta...dude you need to head out to a dragstrip and prove it.

the only thing even a slightly modded 1.6 honda could even put up a fight with is a 2.0 beretta, but would struggle against a STOCK 2.2l that was well driven, and a 2.8l/3.1 would simply blow the doors of it, and a 3100 or 3400....forget it!

i know you honda guys think your little four bangers are the ####...but there are other cars and four cylinders that even chevy made that your little crappy fours couldnt keep up with, example would be the white chevy beretta gtz 2.3l running 14's (thats now in the 13's)

just for some ammusment check these out...

www.beretta.net (go to the section BEHIND THE WHEEL and then to MULTIMEDIA)

www.turboz24.com

the z24 sight is obviously not a beretta, but it basically has the same engine and wieght (turbo 3.1l)

o yeah btw those "body kits" you speak of are nothing but dead weight, most are just for looks and provide little or nothing for acceleration, in order for a body kit to do anything it would have to be specifically tailor made for THAT specific car and done the right way...by airflow testing, very few of the companies listing products in import mags like turbo, honda tuner or import tuner are, only established companies like wings west and stillen actually airflow test....you honda boys crack me up



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payback
o yeah to Skittles...


car and driver got 15.5 outtve a bone stock Beretta GTZ hahahahahahaha
made in the shade
well i mat as well add my 2 cents worth...barettas.this is the deal on berettas.they are a parts bin car ,meaning gm didnt want to spend any money on developing a new car,so instead they dig into theirparts bin,and came up with the beretta and corsica.these cars are cheap to buy,and cheaply made,not any worse than any other gm,buy you can see sutle similarities in the controls,and underpinnings.they are a beeeotch to tint ,i agree,but this young fellow,dj,is in love so as the saying goes....love is blind.
tintme69
QUOTE
Perhaps someone in a Beretta with a High Output engine, a Stage II supercharger, a Cold Air Induction, custom valve guides/camshaft/pistons/headers/etc. pulled you out and owned you at a stoplight and you're pissed off.

sweat.gif
Way too many steroids alc2.gif
ARTEMIS1759
I tell you guys what. Coming from a mechanic and a good background in high performance vehicles, I firmly believe that the Beretta GTZ (which I own) is a good bang for the buck. With a transmission that matches engine revs 1st though 4th and 139 mph top end, and still get 28 to 32 mpg no matter if my foot is to the floor or cruising, it is a blast to drive. Yeah, there are other vehicles out there that are quicker, but how many can take a 90 degree corner at 40 mph without rolling in a downshift and blow the doors off a stock and mildly modified Civic, Neon or non turbo eclipse. It is the best 1500.00 I have ever spent on a car and runs like a top. Mines a 91, but you show me a new car with super stiff sport suspension and a peppy 4 cyl. that cranks 7200 in every gear and only drops to 6500 during a power shift that does not cost more than 18000 and I will take it. Most can't even get this type of mileage either.
blade
i was pretty sure all the berettas left around anywhere were in junkyards hmmmmmmm.gif i can't even remember the last time i saw one of those toilets on the road. uh.gif
ARTEMIS1759
DId you happen to know that you can put a 3800 Stage II supercharged engine from a Pontiac Grand Prix or any of the other cars that came with an L67 into a Beretta?

icon_mrgreen.gif

Did you know that the fastest Beretta with the original Beretta engine is a Quad 4 which runs at 13.3 in the Quarter mile?

And, finally, you can modify a 3800 Series II in a Beretta to run mid-12's.

And that's exactly what I am going to do icon_mrgreen.gif

DJ Malachai

[/quote]

I almsot bought a car a few years ago that had an LS1. It even had stock wheels. Kool thing about the retta is it has an engine compartment and wheelbase the same size as a 2 door S10 blazer, which means...V8s fit right nice with some mods...kind of like the 302 in the focus(which Ford's SVT parts Dept. carries parts for).
Jerry250f
This is one of the funniest threads.
I used to have a xtreme that would smoke all those turd boxes.
blade
i can't actually believe that there are people still out there that (to this day) still think those cars are cool. dunno.gif weird...........
mikeMN
QUOTE (ARTEMIS1759 @ Apr 3 2009, 08:27 PM) [*]678576[/*]
I tell you guys what. Coming from a mechanic and a good background in high performance vehicles, I firmly believe that the Beretta GTZ (which I own) is a good bang for the buck. With a transmission that matches engine revs 1st though 4th and 139 mph top end, and still get 28 to 32 mpg no matter if my foot is to the floor or cruising, it is a blast to drive. Yeah, there are other vehicles out there that are quicker, but how many can take a 90 degree corner at 40 mph without rolling in a downshift and blow the doors off a stock and mildly modified Civic, Neon or non turbo eclipse. It is the best 1500.00 I have ever spent on a car and runs like a top. Mines a 91, but you show me a new car with super stiff sport suspension and a peppy 4 cyl. that cranks 7200 in every gear and only drops to 6500 during a power shift that does not cost more than 18000 and I will take it. Most can't even get this type of mileage either.

wow this is a respond to this old of a post.i think we all know you like your beretta.i sarted to read this post and was going to give a tip on how to do this window.then i saw the date.?????????






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