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Winnerstint
Has anyone done the rear window of the new GTI. I have been reading in the VW forums that the rear window is a real pain. Is this true? And if it is any suggestions on how to make it easier.. Thanks
tintman72
I am in Florida right now at a Volkswagen dealership so I will get ahold of one tomorrow and let you know. beer.gif
naughtydog
they are not an easy shrink.
Devil with bad attitude
Current model is one horrible POS rear screen to film.
Thick as a brick dot matrix edge.
I don't look for that type of work anymore when I don't have to.
Devil
TINTZEUS
i tinted an 06 gti not a week ago and had no problems. eazy peezy

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naughtydog
I dont know what gti you did but the new mk 5 golf - is by no means easy-peasy..IMO

Naughty
Diamond Tints
QUOTE (naughtydog @ Jun 7 2006, 04:46 PM) [*]403689[/*]
I dont know what gti you did but the new mk 5 golf - is by no means easy-peasy..IMO

Naughty

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exotic window tint
i just hate tintn vws in general
Underground
I did an 06 GTi today. The rear glass sucked. Period. The sides were pretty basic though. Just some felt to deal with.
ECANDSOUND
JUST FINISHED NEW GTI ...TRIED AND TRIED TO GET THAT ONE PIECE FOR THE BACK .....RAN OUT OF TIME THE KID CAME HE WAS GOIN BACK TO COLLEGE. PUT IT ON WITH TWO PIECES NOT AS CLEAN LOOKING AS ONE BUT IT HAD TO GO. FOR YOU GUYS THAT HAVE DONE IT IN 1 PIECES WHAT METHOD YOU USE. TIME TO GO RELAX alc2.gif
naughtydog
I use powder on those...I have done about 6 now - they are a pain.

2 ways of doing it, make your side anchors tight and come into the clear glass and this can help or make your side anchors right to the edge of the glass but shape the anchor so it is less at the top and bottom ( like a half circle). This allows you to gather a big finger and shrink it tight in the matrix area - burn it if nessessary - it will tighten up the rest of the fingers and make it do-able.

Naughty
ECANDSOUND
QUOTE (naughtydog @ Aug 27 2006, 10:11 AM) [*]426386[/*]
I use powder on those...I have done about 6 now - they are a pain.

2 ways of doing it, make your side anchors tight and come into the clear glass and this can help or make your side anchors right to the edge of the glass but shape the anchor so it is less at the top and bottom ( like a half circle). This allows you to gather a big finger and shrink it tight in the matrix area - burn it if nessessary - it will tighten up the rest of the fingers and make it do-able.

Naughty

So your saying kinda make like a bigger H then try to shrink it up?? When first started to tint i used the baby powder with the h ...now i usually use the dryer sheets with a whit card ...on this car i tried both methods baby powder worked better but in the end i just didnt have the time to keep messing around with it.. Im looking foward to trying it again tho
tintgod
another way to go at it is to leave a few small finger on the sides that you can heat up after the install...this way..you dont have as much film to shink on the top and bottom..making for a little easier shrink
ECANDSOUND
QUOTE (tintgod @ Aug 27 2006, 03:01 PM) [*]426425[/*]
another way to go at it is to leave a few small finger on the sides that you can heat up after the install...this way..you dont have as much film to shink on the top and bottom..making for a little easier shrink

What method do you use ...baby powder with a glove or dryer sheet with a white card
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tintgod
neither...i use the soap method..no card...no glove
Johnnytint
Squeege the top so theres no finger and move the larger fingers to the bottom and shrink

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It works i dont know why but its much easier
tintgod
QUOTE (Johnnytint @ Aug 28 2006, 10:34 PM) [*]426771[/*]
Squeege the top so theres no finger and move the larger fingers to the bottom and shrink

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It works i dont know why but its much easier

you must not be talking about the 07'...gasp.gif
Johnnytint
yes the '07

just try it

Its 'A' way not 'THE' way

ive done 2 the hard way and 3-5 this way and its easier
tintgod
QUOTE (Johnnytint @ Aug 28 2006, 11:18 PM) [*]426787[/*]
yes the '07

just try it

Its 'A' way not 'THE' way

ive done 2 the hard way and 3-5 this way and its easier

okey dokey..ill give it a try
ECANDSOUND
QUOTE (tintgod @ Aug 27 2006, 05:00 PM) [*]426450[/*]
neither...i use the soap method..no card...no glove

how do you do the soap method??? icon_confused.gif
tintgod
QUOTE (ECANDSOUND @ Aug 29 2006, 11:59 AM) [*]426908[/*]
QUOTE (tintgod @ Aug 27 2006, 05:00 PM) [*]426450[/*]

neither...i use the soap method..no card...no glove

how do you do the soap method??? icon_confused.gif

How i do it..and some do it differently...i take a clean shop rag..fold it up to the about the size of your hand...spray the rag with water...not to much to soak it..just enough to moisten...then i take a bar of DOVE soap..and rub it on the rag...you will get a white paste like substance on the rag...then...wipe your back window with the rag..you should see white haze form on the window ..and you are done...
ECANDSOUND
QUOTE (tintgod @ Aug 27 2006, 05:00 PM) [*]426450[/*]
neither...i use the soap method..no card...no glove

How do you do that icon_confused.gif

QUOTE (ECANDSOUND @ Aug 29 2006, 05:56 PM) [*]427042[/*]
QUOTE (tintgod @ Aug 27 2006, 05:00 PM) [*]426450[/*]

neither...i use the soap method..no card...no glove

How do you do that icon_confused.gif

sorry didnt mean to post that twice

ok so you dont use powder or dryer sheets but you use soap instead ....how do you heat it do you make an h or just kinda make a line across and go at it>>sorryto be annoying dont really have someone that i can like say hey come here do this window with me.. you kno so when i get stuck it sucks haha gasp.gif
peter-SI
I do 2 pecs always dunno.gif
tintmaster707
This window sucks about as much as the new rabbit.
lorenzotint
Too much time spent on the Rabbit Fbigeyes.gif , rear hatch, will try some different brands to see which works faster, The SUPREME 40 took me back to school.
Von Dutch
Tint God, so once you have ragged the cloth with soap. Do you make a H or cover the whole back window?
tintgod
QUOTE (Rickster @ Jan 13 2007, 11:07 AM) [*]465129[/*]
Tint God, so once you have ragged the cloth with soap. Do you make a H or cover the whole back window?

you wipe the whole back window down with the rag..and let the soap form to a haze..then i take another rage and wet it with my slip salution and make an H pattern...lay the film , tack the film and shrink away
tintinater
QUOTE (tintgod @ Aug 28 2006, 10:13 PM) [*]426783[/*]
you must not be talking about the 07'...gasp.gif


bingo.gif dude, that window's hard enough, now you say push ALL the fingers to the bottom?? No frickin way, you must be thinking of an '06....big difference.
MidcoastMW
Well after this post I will be trying attempt #4 on this rear glass. I am getting my ass kicked and I really do not want to call the customer and tell them I cannot do it. nono.gif
losdawg
if you can do it in 2. I have done only 1 rabbit and it took me a couple of times to get it in one.
MidcoastMW
no.... I cant do this car in 2. My splicing skills are not good enough and this car has thin defroster lines. Anyway the owner of this car is very particular and I want it to be done right.
..... Which is why Im going to call him now and admit defeat. mad3.gif This is a bad day in tint land for me.... crying.gif
losdawg
what film are you using? The first time i tried i used Global, not the best shrinking film then i used suntek hp. I also used dry soap method.
darkdan
Lay the film.

Then shrink it a lot without touching it.

Then shrink it a second time and smooth as you go.

Helps to take off the wiper.

Some places you have to tug on the film while you heat it.

It's a PITA.

Then, have fun trying to get a clean install because of all that plastic in the way.
darkdan
Here's the other thread on it:

http://www.tintdude.com/forum/index.php?sh...=27536&st=0
naughtydog
I take the film to the edge of the glass and drag a big finger to that area, and shrinkthe $|-|17 out of it - burn it on purpose - this tightens up the rest of the film. leave it long and lift and pull.

It's a pain but you'll get there in the end.

I did one this week in madico onyx 35%

MidcoastMW
QUOTE (losdawg @ Jun 9 2007, 10:21 AM) [*]513938[/*]
what film are you using? The first time i tried i used Global, not the best shrinking film then i used suntek hp. I also used dry soap method.


It was Suntek Carbon18. great shrinking film..... I got the 4th try shrank good enough, but after I made it past all the plastic and got it squeegeed out, It just was not clean enough for my shops standards. I admitted defeat on this one. Id rather go thru the embarresment of calling the customer and telling them I cant do it, then have some shotty work out there with my name on it. He completly understood.

Also, I think part of it was me not feeling good today. Yesterday I had BAD food poisoning which had me puking for 18hrs. mad3.gif I was still quite groggy this morning.
Key West
QUOTE (ECANDSOUND @ Aug 27 2006, 04:30 PM) [*]426404[/*]
........ Im looking foward to trying it again tho


You GOTTA be a glutton for punishment!!! lol2.gif lol2.gif
Key West
QUOTE (MidcoastMW @ Jun 9 2007, 11:43 AM) [*]513933[/*]
no.... I cant do this car in 2. My splicing skills are not good enough and this car has thin defroster lines. Anyway the owner of this car is very particular and I want it to be done right.
..... Which is why Im going to call him now and admit defeat. mad3.gif This is a bad day in tint land for me.... crying.gif



Dude YOU CAN DO IT!!! If not, don't EVER take in a Beetle. The Beetle side windows are harder than that B/G. Just step back, knock back a shot, hit the bong or what ever you do to relax, and think about it. You gotta be attacking it wrong, thats all. 'Cmon man, I got faith in ya!!!
MidcoastMW
QUOTE (Key West @ Jun 9 2007, 05:16 PM) [*]514087[/*]
Dude YOU CAN DO IT!!! If not, don't EVER take in a Beetle. The Beetle side windows are harder than that B/G. Just step back, knock back a shot, hit the bong or what ever you do to relax, and think about it. You gotta be attacking it wrong, thats all. 'Cmon man, I got faith in ya!!!


Flaugh.gif Yea, your right..... I think I may call him back on monday to see if he can bring it in again. I feel really bad because he really liked the Suntek Carbon and I dont know of any other dealers in my area to refer him to. I think alot of it had to do with me still feeling under the weather from the food poisoning. Hell, I finally was able to eat about 2 hours ago for the first time since thursday at noon! Fbigeyes.gif
wilcax
suntek should lay in one piece on that car...
i put mmm cs 05 on a gti about a month ago, and cs is not as easy to shrink as ST.
should go on your next attempt. like others said anchor the H into the clear section of the window on the sides and leave a finger that can be heated out after installation. i used the dry, glove method. no powder just wiped off and a moist H to anchor.good luck...
Oscar Tint
Dude, the only way you are going to learn is if you don't give up easily nono.gif . Some films are easier to shrink than others, worst come to worst ask if the customer is willing go for a different type of material.

Failing that, you have to do it in 2 pieces. Good learning experience .
MidcoastMW
QUOTE (Oscar Tint @ Jun 18 2007, 01:28 PM) [*]516839[/*]
Dude, the only way you are going to learn is if you don't give up easily nono.gif . Some films are easier to shrink than others, worst come to worst ask if the customer is willing go for a different type of material.

Failing that, you have to do it in 2 pieces. Good learning experience .


I know..... trust me I wish I could go back in time. I gave up easy because I was still sick. It just wasnt my day. grinning_and_saying_no.gif
tintinater
I two pieced one a few months ago, be careful, the defroster flakes like a motha gasp.gif
Limo Tint Larry
This car is a dirty hizzo.

I did the lift an pull for the rear glass... I hated every minute of it. You nail the bottom and then you gotta deal with the retarded top section!

CHARGE MORE! klingon.gif



pierce8468
Leave some more film on the sides, and you will have more area to shrink. That car still sucks donkey n*#s though
ClassOnGlass
i one piece them all day long maing leave the top and bottom long shrink it out that way maing
bigboyk2000
I hate those BG's mad3.gif
goldtooth
QUOTE (tintboy @ Jul 3 2006, 01:58 PM) [*]410970[/*]
bingo.gif bingo.gif

beer.gif those are tough , just reduce the heat ,and use the pull shrink method thumb.gif
tint_audiopros
this is the first new body I have done, 1st attempt on the rear window was no good. 2nd go went well, leave film long to pull bottom. With the spoiler cut film to fit & leave top sides long to pull any way you can. qdp ch.



ClassOnGlass
after the first 2 these rears are a cake walk no problem leave it long shrinks right up man thumb.gif






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