Felt under your tint? Worry no more...

There are several ways to kill felt so it does not get under the tint...

A. Place duck tape over the felt. Although, it may not stick to all felt liners. esp. ford. damn i hate ford. Remember that fingers on the felt liner will pull "trash" and felt particles under the tint. So, shrink your patterns.

B. Remove the felt. Hmm. Charge extra for that.

C. MY FAVORITE METHOD... Use a torch to "singe" the felt particles. If you do this right it WILL NOT cause a visual defect. The felt, however, will no longer be smooth or soft to the touch. And no, it will damage or scratch the film. How it works!! The felt liner is made of billions of little annoying black fibers that break loose and get can get under the film. When you "singe" or "burn" these little fibers they essentially "die" and fall off. As a result, very few fibers are left to make thier way under your film. Be sure not to go crazy, since over heating with the torch will cause a visual defect in the felt that the customer may notice. I use this method all the time and have never had a problem or complaint.

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The high pressure of the cornelious tank does the same thing, without marring anything. I even use the pressure method after an install... if I notice that there is a felt hair, or easier yet, a dog hair, underneath my completely applied film, I just peel it back to that location, blast it with the pressure sprayer, and contamination problems solved.

have you tried it with a heat gun, instead of the torch?
might be a little safer.

exact-oh, ur a noob. its simply not safe to blast water under high pressure into a customers car. u will more than likely blast more dirt under the pattern than you remove. trust me, i've tinted over 10,000 cars... but i wont tell nobody that u attempted that.. shhhhhhhhh

using a heat gun is just not as effective as using a propane torch set on medium. if you do it right, it works extremely well. i have found no cleaner method other than totally removing the felt liner. dont knock it before you try it. it all comes down to how confident you are... if you dont have steady hands and a reasonable amount of good judgement, then don't try it. there is nothing unsafe about it, unless ur a psycho tinter with delusions of tint grandeur. haaaaaaa

thems was jokes exact-oh. 100 psi nxcr tanks are cool to use too

very funny sir-tints-a-not


word!

maybe try hair spray. that used to work.

i use brwn packing tape. thin and smooth. (staples)

Right on Tigerstripe, hair spray is what we still use...works great. no fire, no water, just hair spray.

hair spray
does that work better than tape

Fire????? on a customers vehicle????? WOW!!!!!!

im intrigued by the hair spray...i must know more. right now the thought of spraying sticky liquid all over where i have to tint confuses me

...it buuurnsssss us masters

With 17 years experience, I don't consider myself a newby, and I don't consider the 50 psi slip solution from a cornelious tank unsafe to spray inside the customer's car... yes, I do protect the dash with a moving blanket when installing a sunstrip, but not once have I damaged a window motor, or defroster line with 50 psi H2O.

Hey Exact-oh

Wait until one of his trainees,confident and cocky, burns a headlining, or melts a plastic moulding. Only use a heat gun on a medium setting, if you're good you don't need to do anything but flush. Practice practice and more practice

you roll the window down, and spray the felt door edge guides, give it 5 minutes and its dry. then it holds the fuzzies with out tape or melting them, and over time it will fuzz back up as the hairspray fades.

Exact-Ly

blue painters tape too

Tintim,

You need to try it first. Just because your scared and unsteady doesn't mean that everyone is just like you. My shop has used a torch hundreds of times. It is extremely effective and it doesn't hurt a thing. I guess some people are just like you, scared to try new things. Hell, you probably already tried and your just mad cuz you didn't think of it. It's awesome if you try it. Sorry you have low self confidence.

Blake28,

Maybe it does work - why would I need to try it when I don't have any trouble with felt infestations?

I'm trying to make my life easier and take steps out of the installation process whilst maintaining a perfect install. Don't use hairspray or tape either and I'm sure they work.

Does that mean I scared too?

I think your the scared one as you feel you have to go through the exact same routine to avoid contamination - you don't trust yourself or others. If you did you be looking at ways to cut down the amount of steps you take from start to finish - thereby allowing you to become more efficent and do more cars.

If someone can get the exact same result as you or better, using less tools and time, why would you not want to listen to what they're saying? Thats why I'm here - somethings crack me up.

Can just see our Bentley dealership chuffed to bits at me taking a blowtorch to an arnage and they have deep felt seals.

Only trying to help - its what the boards about

Blake is 3 post into the site and already seem a bit..... arrogant, and stubborn.

Tintim, don’t waste your energy typing to those that can’t read. IMO
Y talk to someone who doesn’t listen…….. your not married are u

you "singe" the fibers with the door open you goof. there is no way to burn the head liner. i throw you in the class of the not-so-brites....

WOW what a way to start off on this board :p1ss

im not stubborn nautiboi. didnt mean to offend anyone. much respect to you guys

well said tintim. thnx very much for comment. very courteous and respectful. i value that. you are correct, "singeing" felt fibers is not for every car, especially new ones. i mostly use on fords and some gereral motors. you know, the trouble cars. just to let you know, i don't use a heat gun to shrink tint either. I use a propane torch 99% of the time. it takes a ton of practice, but when you get it down, you can shrink tint (especially huper) extremely fast. i just like to do things different that's all. didnt mean to offend anyone. you just have to get used to my sense-of-humor. cheers to all. hope you have a good

I like watching guys wreck tint and cars with map gas torches, the look on their faces is priceless when they see what they've done!

Outkast,

i didn't say map gas. map gas is too hot. i said propane gas. pay attention...

Nautiboi73,

Very perceptive, I'm not married officially, but 17 years and 2 kids later - i get your drift



Blake 28 like your last post you are starting to see sense. Just chill, remember everone has different experience. You do surprise me you have done 10,000 cars me I've worked on just over 4000. How can you have done 10,000 cars and not developed a sense that you could be wrong sometimes? Your not related to Bush or Blair? it's a joke!

We use to singe felt with heat guns years ago - but then you find some bright spark decides that he can singe off overhanging hair on a roof lining in a saloon car where the trim is close to the rear glass. Gets away with it a few times - then one time he does not, burns roof lining on new car - megabucks and pissed off dealership. Dealership did not realise what was involved in window tinting - how hard did we have to work to get that one back. This is how roof linings get burnt

As for rear screen shrinking, if you use too much heat you can cause the film to fail prematurely. It might be two, three or five years later but I've seen it and getting that glue off is tough when you have to re-tint glass.

If someones had it happen to them, it could happen to you, live and learn dude

I haven't seen you typ the word propane in this whole thread, and I wasn't specifically talking about you in my comment. Maybe you can't afford to pay attention??

i saw it

thanx for the input and opinion. you guys are awesome

Dudes or dudets whatever the blake twins are.

Don't come on here calling people goof's, and not even put in the location you are posting from.

The method you are refering to has been around since before tape was even thought up. It's nothing new.

Blake27 If I do my math correct your comment about doing 10,000 cars to me seems far fetched.


10000 divided by 8 equals 1250. 1250 divided by 365 equals 3.42

So your saying that you have tinted 3.42 cars per day 365 days per year for eight years now. That is no vacation, no sick, no down time due to economy, weather, no shows, and no days off. You must be counting driver and passenger windows and your redos as full cars.

But to the board

I use the torch all the time and i find it very fast and efficient. For a rear deck or rear side panels a heat gun works just fine. I also use the torch to shrink doors and sometimes a back glass. Its very very difficult and would not reccomend it!

Thanks for the math Pro, I was thiniking the same but didn't want to get into a DMC with the guy

I'm sorry, this topic has come up before, using a blow torch in relation to tinting, and I'll say it again, IT'S FRICKIN' RETARDED!!! Learn how to use a heat gun you dumb asses!! I know, I know, " I'm good, I know what I'm doing.......derrrr"......You guys who use torches are hard-headed......

I mean, come on, seriously, the potential for a major f-up is is far too great to ignore........the way these guys are so flippent about it trips me out.....

It is a bit careless, and the risk is way too high for my taste, but i'll agree that it does work. Probably not the best system to work though. I have seen installers who used the small torches though and they did great work with them. I personally could never do it, though!

TM thats what Im talking about is a little small hand-held torch around 4-5 inches not a big propane thing, very small butane torch

learn how to apply the film the correct way and you wont have any felt issues. its all about how you take it to the glass and your preinstall cleaning and rinse ritual. im not trying to sound rude or trying to put anyone's method down but all this tape, torch, hairspray etc. is driving me nuts.

i use hair spray on felts where the masking tape wont stick ...let it set for a few then tape it and the tape sticks ah ha tip of the week here for tuff felt where tape wont stick

I agree! I never use tape on side windows! I just flush the sides and the bottom , peel and install! But i pull panels and pull seals out and drop the whole thing in at once! Guys who top load and don't remove panels , it's a good idea to tape the seals for cleaner work! Each tinters prep work depends on his or hers style of application! I've seen each style mastered by different tinters and it all depends on how you install!

I tape the sides but use compressed air to get the loose stuff off before I start....

One would have thought after two and a half years you might have gotten over this thread by now

i use 2" masking tape from home depo no felt problems

what a waste of reading.....and to call exact oh a noob wow...like the pot calling the kettle black.....i got a tip for ya....how about using your torch to get the fuzzys of the rear deck ...see how that works for ya.....good luck...



the only reason i posted to this is cause i waste time reading it

got that right ! get-r-done Tintim

just use tape or even hairspary only been tinting for three years but got knowledge of sum1 who has been tinting for 20 years ive been around it all my life