8 mil anti intrusion

Just wanted to know everyone's opinions.
Windows are 60x118 8mil with 995 edge sealant. Robbers got in last night. I explained that this film application will only slow down intruders it won't completely stop the intrusion. They only have 4 min before police arrive. Before film application thet were getting $15,000 worth of equiptment. This time with film they only got a few hundred in drills. So the application did slow them down. Now my customer is wanting frameguard to completely keep them out. He has recently put in alarm sys and cameras. I'm not certified yet to buy the necessary frameguard sys. What would you recommend?
Thanks!




In addition they worked the corner enough to get a person through, then used a tamper to smash the glass outward. The glass was installed deep into the frames plust I installed film into frames as well and generous amounts of 995. The entire pane was broke of course but remained in one piece.

How long between the time you applied the film to the glass and this break-in?

One month 6 days!




One month 16 days Sorry!

Typical cure time for 8mil is 60-100 days. So it may not have had a 100% bond to the glass.

Agree, this take forever to cure

11 years ago I installed 15 mil to a jewlery store. Six months after I got a call from the manager upset because someone got in.

I was shocked and went right over.

When I got there, the security guard told me the guy was on video. It was interesting to watch this guy beat on the glass with a bat. It took about eight minute for him to finally shove his hand in. Once he got in, his arms were bloody.

The guy took his bat and broke a display case. That is when the alarm went off.]

Once the video was over, the manager told me the film failed. It didn't fail, it stopped him from getting in the first 20 wacks. The alarm should have gone off on the impacts, once he entered the building, not when he broke the display case

Yep, the film is designed to slow people down. If they really want in, they will find a way. Interesting though, that guy must have been on speed or something because it takes alot of energy to hammer away for 8 minutes with a bat. 15mil is some good stuff.

By the time he came back out, the authorities were waiting in the parking lot

I'd say that the film worked.

If there was no film, he'd be long gone before the arrived.

we got a long way to go, and short time to get there

we gonna do what they say cant be done


and the bandit

Tinitman, did the owner try to hold you liable?

I also would say that the film did its work. We only install 15mil on street level, it would have slowed them down more, but no film can guarantee 100% an intrusion.

Why would I be held liable? The film did the job .

It was installed as a deterant, not intrusion proof.

The other security systems failed.

I have installed many others like this, one two weeks ago. Some of them have had attempts, but never got through.


That one was a unique situation.

If you present the product properly and not promise something that it cannot do, then you can't be held liable unless you fail to install it correctly. Put things in writing, even the steps to install and have the customer sign off.

Good idea!

the film worked,

the alarm didnt

You should have used the bullet proof film, that would have definately kept them out.



Seriously though, we have done a number of jobs for a national chain that was getting smash and grabbed all the time. We used 8 mil + Frameguard, and in 3 attempts since installation the thieves never got in.

It's all a crapshot though, depends on how much time and effort they are willing to spend to gain entry.