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Texastintchick
I am removing film from a retail shop! The film will come off, but th ADHESIVE OMG Fbigeyes.gif. I have used straight amonia, simple green, many scrapers, scrubbing pads, steel wool!


ANY ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
TintDude
These things work pretty good:



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aliveandawake
I think the only way is with some soapy water and a pack of shiny, new, stainless steel razorblades. Put on some music and let your mind dift away while you scrape. Just change the blade every minute or so... beer.gif
tintguy7
(Texastintchick @ Aug 30 2006, 10:32 AM) [*]427282[/*]
I am removing film from a retail shop! The film will come off, but th ADHESIVE OMG Fbigeyes.gif. I have used straight amonia, simple green, many scrapers, scrubbing pads, steel wool!


ANY ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!


have mr.p do it. Flaugh.gif its way easyier to have someone else do it than doing your self. orngbiggrin.gif beer.gif
VO|TRON
yea like alive and awake said, just spray some solution on it, get it real wet and use the 4 inch scrapers with the handle, I think they are also called wall scrapers. Just use those and use a new blade when it starts leaving adhesive behind. Depending on the type of glass you could sweat them with a trash bag or a clear liner with simple pink or something similar.
Texastintchick
spit.gif you guys are A LOT of frickin help grinning_and_saying_no.gif

(VO|TRON @ Aug 30 2006, 01:04 PM) [*]427293[/*]
yea like alive and awake said, just spray some solution on it, get it real wet and use the 4 inch scrapers with the handle, I think they are also called wall scrapers. Just use those and use a new blade when it starts leaving adhesive behind. Depending on the type of glass you could sweat them with a trash bag or a clear liner with simple pink or something similar.

Tried it grinning_and_saying_no.gif it will not scrape off dunno.gif I don't know what thell kind of film this is but the fckn adhesive is SUPER aggresive!
VO|TRON
it is more then likely the dry (water activated, cdf) adhesive that is being used on most all architectural films in use today.

(VO|TRON @ Aug 30 2006, 10:09 AM) [*]427295[/*]
it is more then likely the dry (water activated, cdf) adhesive that is being used on most all architectural films in use today.


Those types of adhesive's are a pain to remove, I have found that madico's and Llumars adhesive's are the biggest pain to remove.
Tintin' Magician
shooting_a_gun.gif
(TintDude @ Aug 30 2006, 01:38 PM) [*]427286[/*]
These things work pretty good:



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lol2.gif rollin.gif lol2.gif That's funny! The only thing I know to do is power it off, it sucks but that's how I do it. I also utilize my 1" as much as possible. It seems like a pain in the arse wall.gif , but it works noneheless. thumb.gif Or if you want the easy way out, just organize a drive by shooting_a_gun.gif
losdawg
Belive it or not...I onced used a 4" scrapper with no solution and it worked great, just dry. Give it a shot, it cant hurt unless you cut yourself. orngbiggrin.gif
expertint
zep has a aerosal spray adhesive remover that you have to have the window completely dry then you spray it on..Olflablade uses it I'll ask him..
VO|TRON
yes I too remove this type of film dry until I get all the film off and then I wet the left over adhesive.
vclimber
welcome.gif to flatglass TTC. beer.gif

Try one of these.



Sometime dry scraping works better. Just make sure your blades are sharpe. A dull blade makes the job 10 time harder.
suntint
Wet the film, cover with liners and wait a bit (we will often leave this soaking overnight to scrape the next day). It still won't be an easy scrape but this often makes it better. You might even try wetting with a solution of simple green mixed with ammonia. We've used this solution to help scrape vinyl film which has a very strong adhesive.
Texastintchick
I am so afraid of scraping dry! I do not want to scratch the glass!

I think letting it soak overnight might be the only way to go. And maybe soak, cover, remove the film, soak, cover, remove the adhesive dunno.gif


I don't know...what do you guys think!
vclimber
(Texastintchick @ Aug 30 2006, 01:21 PM) [*]427327[/*]
I am so afraid of scraping dry! I do not want to scratch the glass!

I think letting it soak overnight might be the only way to go. And maybe soak, cover, remove the film, soak, cover, remove the adhesive dunno.gif


I don't know...what do you guys think!


Dry scraping is not that hard. As long as your blade is a new stainless steel, not carbon. Try arching your stroke in a crescent shape, it slices through everything easier.

I usually approach dry adhesives this way:

-1st try too dry scrape. If it doesn't work then I try to peel the film and let the rest soak with a liner on the top. Then come back and scrape.

Either way you cut it, dry adhesive is a much different rate than stripping PS. Hope this helps. beer.gif




Let me ask you this TTC. Are you putting new film on after your remove the old stuff? If so, what type of adhesive are you using? If it's PS, you may run into a problem.
wicked r1
(Texastintchick @ Aug 30 2006, 10:32 AM) [*]427282[/*]
I am removing film from a retail shop! The film will come off, but th ADHESIVE OMG Fbigeyes.gif. I have used straight amonia, simple green, many scrapers, scrubbing pads, steel wool!


ANY ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

he's the secret got to home depot or lowes and buy formula 505 or simple green concentrate( very important. spray it on the adhesive only let sit for a few minutes . adhesive should come of like butter. use scrubby or a blade to remove no elbow grease needed let me know how it works!!!!.

oh by the way it's user safe won't harm paint or any other finishes. this also works great on auto removal too . don't bag rip tear that stuff off and let the 505 do it's job --
vclimber
grinning_and_saying_no.gif Dry adhesive never comes off like butter. The day a non-toxic solution is found, the person that invents it will not have to worry about money anymore. Flaugh.gif
wicked r1
(vclimber @ Aug 30 2006, 02:04 PM) [*]427331[/*]
grinning_and_saying_no.gif Dry adhesive never comes off like butter. The day a non-toxic solution is found, the person that invents it will not have to worry about money anymore. Flaugh.gif

Vclimber, don't knock it till you try it . plus the inventor of simple green is rich orngbiggrin.gif
Tintin' Magician
Yeah right! bingo.gif I should be working on that formula right now!
vclimber
(wicked r1 @ Aug 30 2006, 02:43 PM) [*]427341[/*]
(vclimber @ Aug 30 2006, 02:04 PM) [*]427331[/*]

grinning_and_saying_no.gif Dry adhesive never comes off like butter. The day a non-toxic solution is found, the person that invents it will not have to worry about money anymore. Flaugh.gif

Vclimber, don't knock it till you try it . plus the inventor of simple green is rich orngbiggrin.gif


I've boated past his house in Newport Harbor. It's green! Fbigeyes.gif Yeah he's rich but his green stuff doesn't take CDF off like butter after a few minutes of soaking. PS adhesive sure, concentrate probably melts the stuff right off.
outkast tinter
Use Zep Streak Out 40 on a dry window, no water residue, and foam the glass with it, gone in 60 seconds with a triumph thumb.gif
Texastintchick
(outkast tinter @ Aug 30 2006, 08:02 PM) [*]427445[/*]
Use Zep Streak Out 40 on a dry window, no water residue, and foam the glass with it, gone in 60 seconds with a triumph thumb.gif

Where can I get some....and yu are sure it will work on DH?
VO|TRON
all the time wasted trying to find an easier way to do it and you could have had it done already. I strip alot of film and the best fastest way is to dry scrape with the scraper that climber showed u and then come back after all the film is off and wet the residue and scrape with a triumph
outkast tinter
Veronica, contact your local ZEP dealer, and inquire about the Streak Out 40. I've been using it since 1987. It strips glue on cars and other applications like snot with a quick stroke. beer.gif
vclimber
(VO|TRON @ Aug 30 2006, 07:50 PM) [*]427472[/*]
all the time wasted trying to find an easier way to do it and you could have had it done already. I strip alot of film and the best fastest way is to dry scrape with the scraper that climber showed u and then come back after all the film is off and wet the residue and scrape with a triumph



bingo.gif

The other thing you have to worry about when stripping dry adhesive is puting new PS adhesive film on. Have you ever tried it? The residual CDF or CDA is still in the pores of the glass and it is like puttng the brakes on when you apply certain PS films. Doesn't matter how much soap and water you use, once you go to hard squeege, bam!

Fortunately, there is a way to deal with it but it's kind of messy. That's why I was asking TTC if you were planning on replacing the film...
VO|TRON
I have installed a dry or cdf,cda adhesive after removing the same and it also has the same affect on the dry adhesives too, it better be in place when it hits the glass or goodluck.
Key West
(aliveandawake @ Aug 30 2006, 01:40 PM) [*]427287[/*]
I think the only way is with some soapy water and a pack of shiny, new, stainless steel razorblades. Put on some music and let your mind dift away while you scrape. Just change the blade every minute or so... beer.gif


bingo.gif bingo.gif bingo.gif Nothing beats a fresh blade! thumb.gif
baby bird
Ive heard the product simply or simple pink is what is used to get off the glue fim
vclimber
The problem is that this isn't just any "glue" or pressure sensitive adhesive. Dry adhesive creates a molecular bond to the glass which is much stronger than the physical bond created by ps adhesives. Soaking can help but aside from that you need a blade and some muscle and a lot of energy to get the stuff off. coffee.gif

The only thing that I have ever seen put a real dent in dry adhesives was some flourescent green stuff. The problem was that it poisons those who use it and it eats right through rubber... gasp.gif
tintman AZ
I use straight Rubbing Alcohol on Dry Adhesive. I was impressed. And of course a fresh blade
carbontc
Steps for removal:

1. soak and wet old film with J&J.
2. apply left over plastic film (masking) from previous film applied.
(something like this)

3. then soak it again.
4. grab olfa knive and go over plastic cover by cutting it into square pieces.
(like a french window)

5. soak it again.
6. come back within 15 min.
7. start from bottom and peel off gently the plastic piece
8. remove each piece by using thriumph scraper blade (6") and
9. then proceed from bottom to top.
Sometimes it may require to spray solution again, but it will come off. If you are patience this will do the job really easy. Now the plastic piece I'm talking about is the left over from older films appied, 4 or 8-mil will do the job b/c it holds or retains more water than 2-mil.

Good luck. beer.gif





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