ANY ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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I am removing film from a retail shop! The film will come off, but th ADHESIVE OMG
ANY ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
These things work pretty good:
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I think the only way is with some soapy water and a pack of shiny, new, stainless steel razorblades. Put on some music and let your mind dift away while you scrape. Just change the blade every minute or so...
(Texastintchick @ Aug 30 2006, 10:32 AM) [*]427282[/*] I am removing film from a retail shop! The film will come off, but th ADHESIVE OMG ANY ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! have mr.p do it.
yea like alive and awake said, just spray some solution on it, get it real wet and use the 4 inch scrapers with the handle, I think they are also called wall scrapers. Just use those and use a new blade when it starts leaving adhesive behind. Depending on the type of glass you could sweat them with a trash bag or a clear liner with simple pink or something similar.
(VO|TRON @ Aug 30 2006, 01:04 PM) [*]427293[/*] yea like alive and awake said, just spray some solution on it, get it real wet and use the 4 inch scrapers with the handle, I think they are also called wall scrapers. Just use those and use a new blade when it starts leaving adhesive behind. Depending on the type of glass you could sweat them with a trash bag or a clear liner with simple pink or something similar. Tried it
it is more then likely the dry (water activated, cdf) adhesive that is being used on most all architectural films in use today.
(VO|TRON @ Aug 30 2006, 10:09 AM) [*]427295[/*] it is more then likely the dry (water activated, cdf) adhesive that is being used on most all architectural films in use today. Those types of adhesive's are a pain to remove, I have found that madico's and Llumars adhesive's are the biggest pain to remove. (TintDude @ Aug 30 2006, 01:38 PM) [*]427286[/*] These things work pretty good: ![]()
Belive it or not...I onced used a 4" scrapper with no solution and it worked great, just dry. Give it a shot, it cant hurt unless you cut yourself.
zep has a aerosal spray adhesive remover that you have to have the window completely dry then you spray it on..Olflablade uses it I'll ask him..
yes I too remove this type of film dry until I get all the film off and then I wet the left over adhesive.
Try one of these. ![]() Sometime dry scraping works better. Just make sure your blades are sharpe. A dull blade makes the job 10 time harder.
Wet the film, cover with liners and wait a bit (we will often leave this soaking overnight to scrape the next day). It still won't be an easy scrape but this often makes it better. You might even try wetting with a solution of simple green mixed with ammonia. We've used this solution to help scrape vinyl film which has a very strong adhesive.
I am so afraid of scraping dry! I do not want to scratch the glass!
I think letting it soak overnight might be the only way to go. And maybe soak, cover, remove the film, soak, cover, remove the adhesive I don't know...what do you guys think! (Texastintchick @ Aug 30 2006, 01:21 PM) [*]427327[/*] I am so afraid of scraping dry! I do not want to scratch the glass! I think letting it soak overnight might be the only way to go. And maybe soak, cover, remove the film, soak, cover, remove the adhesive I don't know...what do you guys think! Dry scraping is not that hard. As long as your blade is a new stainless steel, not carbon. Try arching your stroke in a crescent shape, it slices through everything easier. I usually approach dry adhesives this way: -1st try too dry scrape. If it doesn't work then I try to peel the film and let the rest soak with a liner on the top. Then come back and scrape. Either way you cut it, dry adhesive is a much different rate than stripping PS. Hope this helps. Let me ask you this TTC. Are you putting new film on after your remove the old stuff? If so, what type of adhesive are you using? If it's PS, you may run into a problem. (Texastintchick @ Aug 30 2006, 10:32 AM) [*]427282[/*] I am removing film from a retail shop! The film will come off, but th ADHESIVE OMG ANY ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! he's the secret got to home depot or lowes and buy formula 505 or simple green concentrate( very important. spray it on the adhesive only let sit for a few minutes . adhesive should come of like butter. use scrubby or a blade to remove no elbow grease needed let me know how it works!!!!. oh by the way it's user safe won't harm paint or any other finishes. this also works great on auto removal too . don't bag rip tear that stuff off and let the 505 do it's job -- (vclimber @ Aug 30 2006, 02:04 PM) [*]427331[/*] Vclimber, don't knock it till you try it . plus the inventor of simple green is rich
Yeah right!
(wicked r1 @ Aug 30 2006, 02:43 PM) [*]427341[/*] (vclimber @ Aug 30 2006, 02:04 PM) [*]427331[/*] Vclimber, don't knock it till you try it . plus the inventor of simple green is rich I've boated past his house in Newport Harbor. It's green!
Use Zep Streak Out 40 on a dry window, no water residue, and foam the glass with it, gone in 60 seconds with a triumph
(outkast tinter @ Aug 30 2006, 08:02 PM) [*]427445[/*] Use Zep Streak Out 40 on a dry window, no water residue, and foam the glass with it, gone in 60 seconds with a triumph Where can I get some....and yu are sure it will work on DH?
all the time wasted trying to find an easier way to do it and you could have had it done already. I strip alot of film and the best fastest way is to dry scrape with the scraper that climber showed u and then come back after all the film is off and wet the residue and scrape with a triumph
Veronica, contact your local ZEP dealer, and inquire about the Streak Out 40. I've been using it since 1987. It strips glue on cars and other applications like snot with a quick stroke.
(VO|TRON @ Aug 30 2006, 07:50 PM) [*]427472[/*] all the time wasted trying to find an easier way to do it and you could have had it done already. I strip alot of film and the best fastest way is to dry scrape with the scraper that climber showed u and then come back after all the film is off and wet the residue and scrape with a triumph The other thing you have to worry about when stripping dry adhesive is puting new PS adhesive film on. Have you ever tried it? The residual CDF or CDA is still in the pores of the glass and it is like puttng the brakes on when you apply certain PS films. Doesn't matter how much soap and water you use, once you go to hard squeege, bam! Fortunately, there is a way to deal with it but it's kind of messy. That's why I was asking TTC if you were planning on replacing the film...
I have installed a dry or cdf,cda adhesive after removing the same and it also has the same affect on the dry adhesives too, it better be in place when it hits the glass or goodluck.
(aliveandawake @ Aug 30 2006, 01:40 PM) [*]427287[/*] I think the only way is with some soapy water and a pack of shiny, new, stainless steel razorblades. Put on some music and let your mind dift away while you scrape. Just change the blade every minute or so...
Ive heard the product simply or simple pink is what is used to get off the glue fim
The problem is that this isn't just any "glue" or pressure sensitive adhesive. Dry adhesive creates a molecular bond to the glass which is much stronger than the physical bond created by ps adhesives. Soaking can help but aside from that you need a blade and some muscle and a lot of energy to get the stuff off.
The only thing that I have ever seen put a real dent in dry adhesives was some flourescent green stuff. The problem was that it poisons those who use it and it eats right through rubber...
I use straight Rubbing Alcohol on Dry Adhesive. I was impressed. And of course a fresh blade
Steps for removal:
1. soak and wet old film with J&J. 2. apply left over plastic film (masking) from previous film applied. (something like this) ![]() 3. then soak it again. 4. grab olfa knive and go over plastic cover by cutting it into square pieces. (like a french window) ![]() 5. soak it again. 6. come back within 15 min. 7. start from bottom and peel off gently the plastic piece 8. remove each piece by using thriumph scraper blade (6") and 9. then proceed from bottom to top. Sometimes it may require to spray solution again, but it will come off. If you are patience this will do the job really easy. Now the plastic piece I'm talking about is the left over from older films appied, 4 or 8-mil will do the job b/c it holds or retains more water than 2-mil. Good luck.
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