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stanmondz
hello all .these rolldowns are kicking my ass. iv wasted 16ft of tint so far ,and still have plane glass how do i need to do these windows im using sunpro films tint is this film good? i got a 2ft X 100ft roll if i can get this one i have 2 people that want theres done i got the back glass in 3 peices im happy with that. i dont think im anywhere near ready to try it in 1 peice also what is the right way to sqeegie? any and all help would be great thanks stan
solarspot
That window doesn't have a frame right dunno.gif


Whats your problem
stanmondz
no frame i can get the bottom but the top wont go down flat i get a lot of fingers when i try to shrink em the film deforms this is at the back corner to the curve that shuts aginst the windshield im am tring to wet shrink it should i try outher methods to shrink? will it go with out shrink?do i need to trim all excess befor i heat it? help stan
Key West
(stanmondz @ Sep 16 2006, 11:16 PM) [*]432168[/*]
no frame i can get the bottom but the top wont go down flat i get a lot of fingers when i try to shrink em the film deforms this is at the back corner to the curve that shuts aginst the windshield im am tring to wet shrink it should i try outher methods to shrink? will it go with out shrink?do i need to trim all excess befor i heat it? help stan


You Gotta get your fingers running up and down. There is a "grain" to film that runs from factory edge to factory edge. Try and shrink side to side, and you'll shrink a crease right in it. You can tell right away by the way it reacts to heat. Get squiggley lines, you're good, get a straight line, Yer screwed!. Always shrink with the grain. However, those windows generally dont need to be shrunk. In fact, I don't think I've ever had to shrink a Camaro side window. Check your squegee technique. I generally try and "tack" The top edge, then I work from the center to the corners. Hope this helps beer.gif
Sorry, you did say Firebird. But they are generally the same as Camaros. (except after-market glass)
Being a polyester, film will stretch. I have seen people squegee fingers into flat glass! inot.gif . The key here is to get the top edge where you want it, then work from the center outward to the 4 corners thumb.gif
solarspot
(Key West @ Sep 16 2006, 10:46 PM) [*]432176[/*]
(stanmondz @ Sep 16 2006, 11:16 PM) [*]432168[/*]

no frame i can get the bottom but the top wont go down flat i get a lot of fingers when i try to shrink em the film deforms this is at the back corner to the curve that shuts aginst the windshield im am tring to wet shrink it should i try outher methods to shrink? will it go with out shrink?do i need to trim all excess befor i heat it? help stan


You Gotta get your fingers running up and down. There is a "grain" to film that runs from factory edge to factory edge. Try and shrink side to side, and you'll shrink a crease right in it. You can tell right away by the way it reacts to heat. Get squiggley lines, you're good, get a straight line, Yer screwed!. Always shrink with the grain. However, those windows generally dont need to be shrunk. In fact, I don't think I've ever had to shrink a Camaro side window. Check your squegee technique. I generally try and "tack" The top edge, then I work from the center to the corners. Hope this helps beer.gif
Sorry, you did say Firebird. But they are generally the same as Camaros. (except after-market glass)
Being a polyester, film will stretch. I have seen people squegee fingers into flat glass! inot.gif . The key here is to get the top edge where you want it, then work from the center outward to the 4 corners thumb.gif






bingo.gif You said it way better than I could have thumb.gif
stanmondz
thanks ill work on it some more tomorrow could you please expline the right way to squeege i have no clue whats right or wrong and what is "tack"? tint is a whole new world to me so most of the lingo i dont understand give me a engine transmission or rear axle and i know what im doing tint is like chinese to me
thanks stan
Key West
(stanmondz @ Sep 17 2006, 12:53 AM) [*]432188[/*]
thanks ill work on it some more tomorrow could you please expline the right way to squeege i have no clue whats right or wrong and what is "tack"? tint is a whole new world to me so most of the lingo i dont understand give me a engine transmission or rear axle and i know what im doing tint is like chinese to me
thanks stan


That being the case, stick with your engines and transmissions. Let a pro tint your car. No amount of reading is gonna develop tint skills. Most of us have developed our skills over years, hands on. Would you try to help a person with no mechanical knowledge rebuild an engine by posting and communicating on a forum? nono.gif popcorn.gif
solarspot
(Key West @ Sep 17 2006, 07:03 AM) [*]432224[/*]
(stanmondz @ Sep 17 2006, 12:53 AM) [*]432188[/*]

thanks ill work on it some more tomorrow could you please expline the right way to squeege i have no clue whats right or wrong and what is "tack"? tint is a whole new world to me so most of the lingo i dont understand give me a engine transmission or rear axle and i know what im doing tint is like chinese to me
thanks stan


That being the case, stick with your engines and transmissions. Let a pro tint your car. No amount of reading is gonna develop tint skills. Most of us have developed our skills over years, hands on. Would you try to help a person with no mechanical knowledge rebuild an engine by posting and communicating on a forum? nono.gif popcorn.gif




I agree its hard enough to learn when you can watch a pro do it. Most of the skills you need are gonna come with LOTS of practice and film in the trash. If you really want to learn get ready to invest alot of time and money. As you have found already its not very easy and your on a frameless window. Just keep at it and ask a question here and there because we can't teach from the ground up on a forum.


Good luck and keep pluggin thumb.gif
stanmondz
im already back out fighting with it thanks for the help stan
stanmondz
24ft of tint and a total of 4.5 hrs i got 1 side done damn this looks so easy tinting may not be for me but im not giving up yet
1PEECBARETTA
beer.gif you can do it!
Key West
(stanmondz @ Sep 17 2006, 01:24 PM) [*]432274[/*]
24ft of tint and a total of 4.5 hrs i got 1 side done damn this looks so easy tinting may not be for me but im not giving up yet


Thats gonna be one expensive set of rollups!!!! lol2.gif lol2.gif But hey, dude got one done with 24', I'm sure he's got enough left to get the other one!! thumb.gif thumb.gif Gotta admire your pluck!!! beer.gif Hell, man, I just did the math. Thats only 7 or 8 tries!!! Not Bad!! Keep pluggin' thumb.gif
stanmondz
got the outher one on the 2nd try
solarspot
(stanmondz @ Sep 17 2006, 05:03 PM) [*]432292[/*]
got the outher one on the 2nd try





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Key West
(stanmondz @ Sep 17 2006, 06:03 PM) [*]432292[/*]
got the outher one on the 2nd try


Pics? coffee.gif
tintgod
great another hack is born wall.gif
RICHat22
(tintgod @ Sep 17 2006, 06:41 PM) [*]432306[/*]
great another hack is born wall.gif



Sounds like someone's jealous Flaugh.gif Flaugh.gif Flaugh.gif
1PEECBARETTA
I guess tintgod was good from the get go.





















not!
solarspot
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tintgod
(1PEECBARETTA @ Sep 17 2006, 08:14 PM) [*]432313[/*]
I guess tintgod was good from the get go.





















not!

i didnt start just slapping tint on anything i could get my hands on..i did it the right way and started at a tint shop and worked my way into tinting ..started cleaning glass and taking off panels and watching others and learning from ppl that have been tinting for years...not just deciding i want to learn how to tint and go and read and learn from other ppl on the net ....and then going into business not knowing sheit..or start doing cars for ppl and having it look like dog $|-|17 and PhU(|<1|\|9 up the industry by putting out crap work...i started in a controlled environment...if it wasnt up to par..it didnt hit the street.

SO finger.gif
1PEECBARETTA
Ditten mean to get your p@nties in a bunch there Tintgodess.
stanmondz
i never said i wanted to go in to business. i want learn how to do it because i think its coool and if at some point i can make a few bucks so be it i worked for a detail shop for a couple years so i know how to clean glass i also know how to remove interior panels to get to the glass waht is so wrong about someone wanting to learn this that is will to waste the time and tint to do it?
olletsoc
try this. http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=678c...38&fr=yvmtf
everything you need to know can be found here
TintDude
(olletsoc @ Sep 19 2006, 06:09 AM) [*]432833[/*]
try this. http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=678c...38&fr=yvmtf
everything you need to know can be found here



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onepiecemastr
(olletsoc @ Sep 19 2006, 09:09 AM) [*]432833[/*]
try this. http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=678c...38&fr=yvmtf
everything you need to know can be found here


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Beeline
OH HELL NO sweat.gif
Limo Tint Larry
I wanna see the three piece rear window.. wonder if that year has matrix... orngbiggrin.gif
seth
(stanmondz @ Sep 16 2006, 08:50 PM) [*]432158[/*]
hello all .these rolldowns are kicking my ass. iv wasted 16ft of tint so far ,and still have plane glass how do i need to do these windows im using sunpro films tint is this film good? i got a 2ft X 100ft roll if i can get this one i have 2 people that want theres done i got the back glass in 3 peices im happy with that. i dont think im anywhere near ready to try it in 1 peice also what is the right way to sqeegie? any and all help would be great thanks stan


haha lay down the tools son and take it to a professional if you cant handle frameless doors or that BG in one peice there is no hope for you in this field of work trust.gif
lilDetails
(olletsoc @ Sep 19 2006, 05:09 AM) [*]432833[/*]
try this. http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=678c...38&fr=yvmtf
everything you need to know can be found here




Hate to admit it but back in the day, before doing this as a profession, I had that squeegee! That film was purple out of the box....sounded like some good old gila film. Stiff as hell. I would like to know how she layed that down without shrinking it though! I have not had one of the caravan or T&C without shrink.
tintman237
(lilDetails @ Oct 2 2006, 04:38 PM) [*]437240[/*]
(olletsoc @ Sep 19 2006, 05:09 AM) [*]432833[/*]

try this. http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=678c...38&fr=yvmtf
everything you need to know can be found here




Hate to admit it but back in the day, before doing this as a profession, I had that squeegee! That film was purple out of the box....sounded like some good old gila film. Stiff as hell. I would like to know how she layed that down without shrinking it though! I have not had one of the caravan or T&C without shrink.



If you yank the rubbers out of the caravans (about 30 seconds) you can lay them all day long w/o shrinking a thing. trust.gif

dunno.gif but then again what do I know
want2modmygt
i hate frameless windows... usually the gasket is too close for me to get the tint behind it. what am i missing about how easy these are? like the g6 2 dr. couldnt get the tint inside the window. or a 94 ford probe. yep, trouble there too. i have to remove the door panel, and on newer cars, people are usually iffy on all that jazz. dunno.gif: what am i missing?
TINTDESIGNZ
Most frameless windows you can push them out at the top and slide the tint right down behind the gasket. thumb.gif
willie
(TINTDESIGNZ @ Dec 21 2006, 11:22 AM) [*]458170[/*]
Most frameless windows you can push them out at the top and slide the tint right down behind the gasket. thumb.gif

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Shady Sherlock
(TINTDESIGNZ @ Dec 21 2006, 10:22 AM) [*]458170[/*]
Most frameless windows you can push them out at the top and slide the tint right down behind the gasket. thumb.gif

Sometimes, it's the easiest things that are the hardest to see. hmmmmmmm.gif





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