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i installed a remote starter for a friend of my brothers the other day and he called yesterday saying his brothers both work at car dealershis as mechanics and they see cars come in with problems, mainly in electrical, and they say after doing tests on the vehicle, they claim it is caused by the aftermarket remote starter and it voids their warranties. I call bullsh@t on this but just wanted to get other opinions or personal experience. im thinking its just some other shop or two that dont know exactly what theyre doing or its all bull, like i think.
If it looks like a hack job very easy to say whatever caused the problem was "aftermarket alarm", I spent almost 14 years working @ dealers and saw plenty of it, if its a good job and an expensive warranty ticket "aftermarket alarm" caused problem no warranty so they can charge the customer thats been what I've seen
I'm sure if a person reads the entire warranty and unscrambles all the legal mumbo jumbo it might translate to something along the lines of the Dealer installs a remote start, it does not void the warranty.
If anyone other than Authorized Factory trained Personnell installs non factory aftermarket accessories then the warranty is voided. Just a way to blackmail us to pay dealer prices !
It does not matter who installs it.
If it is aftermarket, it voids the warranty. If it is a factory, O.E.M. accessory, it would not. Remote starters are for lazy phockers anyways... I see these monkeys running the XM antenna wires through the 3rd brake lights of these newer trucks and it causes them to leak water like a MF...
FACT: Installing aftermarket equipment WILL NOT void factory warranty UNLESS the 'problem' is caused by that equipment. If the equipment is properly installed and in good working order there is no reason for it to cause a problem.
yup, dei has a copy of a law on their page that says an aftermarket remote start, ect can not void a warranty.
I agree. The installation of anything does not necessarily void the warranty unless that product causes a problem. Don't let dealerships scrare you. They just want you to pay their ridiculous prices. Every dealer 12 volt add-on I've seen looked just like the hacks down the road did it (they probably did, since most dealership subcontract that kind of work). They rarely do any work that is NOT in their manufacturer's manual. Too bad hack tint jobs can't void their warranty.
magnuson moss act FTW
if your tranny was acting up on a GM after a remote start install and the installer didnt do it correctly, i could see the arguement...but, your radio didnt cause your power seat to stop QUOTE (ami2loud @ Feb 19 2007, 04:31 PM) [*]480402[/*] magnuson moss act FTW if your tranny was acting up on a GM after a remote start install and the installer didnt do it correctly, i could see the arguement...but, your radio didnt cause your power seat to stop The Magnusson/Moss Warranty Act protects individuals against the auto manufactures, allows them to install aftermarket parts on their vehicles, however, there are stips..though. Sounds like the 2nd or even 3rd ignition wire isn't hooked up, that will "retard" the transmission on late model GM vehicles. QUOTE (tint_detective @ Feb 13 2007, 10:48 AM) [*]478079[/*] It does not matter who installs it. If it is aftermarket, it voids the warranty. If it is a factory, O.E.M. accessory, it would not. Remote starters are for lazy phockers anyways... I see these monkeys running the XM antenna wires through the 3rd brake lights of these newer trucks and it causes them to leak water like a MF... QUOTE (Exact-Oh @ Jun 8 2007, 08:20 PM) [*]513747[/*]
its against the law if they void your warranty dei has a disclaimer to print stating the law and law numbers the only way no to warranty something is to prove without a reasonable doubt that the product made the exact problem happen but the dealer with never put it in black and white casue they can get sued dei.com has that disclaimer
QUOTE (tintman237 @ Feb 12 2007, 11:53 PM) [*]477817[/*] If it looks like a hack job very easy to say whatever caused the problem was "aftermarket alarm", I spent almost 14 years working @ dealers and saw plenty of it, if its a good job and an expensive warranty ticket "aftermarket alarm" caused problem no warranty so they can charge the customer thats been what I've seen This happened to me the other day at the Acura Dealer. They don't know what caused the problem, but it could have been my aftermarket remote starter, so I had to pay! - Jerks!
Read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Its not if the aftermarket art is installed it automatically voids the warranty. Its if the part fails and the car manufacturer can prove the aftermarket part caused failure, that when they deny the portion of the warranty with the a/m part in it. Just outting a/m parts doesnt mean its voided. That would be retarted
QUOTE (billydunwoody@aol.com @ Mar 12 2008, 10:19 PM) [*]604078[/*] Read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Its not if the aftermarket art is installed it automatically voids the warranty. Its if the part fails and the car manufacturer can prove the aftermarket part caused failure, that when they deny the portion of the warranty with the a/m part in it. Just outting a/m parts doesnt mean its voided. That would be retarted QUOTE (ryanoc @ Oct 18 2007, 12:57 PM) [*]554857[/*] QUOTE (tintman237 @ Feb 12 2007, 11:53 PM) [*]477817[/*] If it looks like a hack job very easy to say whatever caused the problem was "aftermarket alarm", I spent almost 14 years working @ dealers and saw plenty of it, if its a good job and an expensive warranty ticket "aftermarket alarm" caused problem no warranty so they can charge the customer thats been what I've seen This happened to me the other day at the Acura Dealer. They don't know what caused the problem, but it could have been my aftermarket remote starter, so I had to pay! - Jerks! you see according to mag moss it is there job to PROVE that it was the aftermarket alarm... not "could have been" and going on from there, no offense to anyone, but dealership "mechanics" are nothing more than parts changers. they dont know how to diagnose anything that a book doesnt tell them so them proving things is not very simple.
My aftermarket warranty would have covered it. I had a car alarm installed and it happened to fy out the starter. I took it in, the shop called the warranty and they fixed it. I believe I bought the warranty from clickeverythingauto.com I also have a roadside plan through them. If I were you I would not even tell anyone what the failure was. Just call in the claim.
Does Canada have a similar law? Are there any additional problems that could arise from installing one in a standard, as my car is a 6 speed nissan.
I used to work for a reputable shop in NY. We did the installs for many of the dealerships in the area. They advised there customers that the waranty was void unless they the dealership (which meant me and my boss) did the install. All the time it didnt matter. The law states that the after market installs DO NOT void your waranty UNLESS the installation is the direct cause of the failure to any of the vehicles OEM parts. This just goes to show you that regardless of what some of these people have posted, after market parts installed by a contracted installer by the dealership ARE covered OEM or not makes no difference. Go to directed electronics website for guide lines. Install it all, just use a reputable installer. You can find one at the DEI website as well.
QUOTE (samantha @ Jun 30 2008, 12:20 AM) [*]627389[/*] Does Canada have a similar law? Are there any additional problems that could arise from installing one in a standard, as my car is a 6 speed nissan. Im not sure baout the laws in canada, but it is !llegal here to install them in a stick. It can be done, but most shops will stay away from it as they can be held liable if you leave it in gear and hit the auto start causing the car to boogie down the street into traffick. QUOTE (tint_detective @ Feb 13 2007, 12:48 PM) [*]478079[/*] It does not matter who installs it. If it is aftermarket, it voids the warranty. If it is a factory, O.E.M. accessory, it would not. Remote starters are for lazy phockers anyways... I see these monkeys running the XM antenna wires through the 3rd brake lights of these newer trucks and it causes them to leak water like a MF... With all due respect, I happen to be one of "these monkeys", and in the last three years have yet to have one come back for a leak of any kind at all. Off subject I know, but I felt obligated to defend this technique. QUOTE (kool kustumz @ Feb 12 2007, 07:54 PM) [*]477769[/*] i installed a remote starter for a friend of my brothers the other day and he called yesterday saying his brothers both work at car dealershis as mechanics and they see cars come in with problems, mainly in electrical, and they say after doing tests on the vehicle, they claim it is caused by the aftermarket remote starter and it voids their warranties. I call bullsh@t on this but just wanted to get other opinions or personal experience. im thinking its just some other shop or two that dont know exactly what theyre doing or its all bull, like i think. Been working this thing out QUOTE (kool kustumz @ Feb 12 2007, 10:54 PM) [*]477769[/*] i installed a remote starter for a friend of my brothers the other day and he called yesterday saying his brothers both work at car dealershis as mechanics and they see cars come in with problems, mainly in electrical, and they say after doing tests on the vehicle, they claim it is caused by the aftermarket remote starter and it voids their warranties. I call bullsh@t on this but just wanted to get other opinions or personal experience. im thinking its just some other shop or two that dont know exactly what theyre doing or its all bull, like i think. i know the local ford dealer here has sub out remote start to diff shops doesnt void warranty i have done a few for them buty if your bestfriend does the install saying that he can and he trashes the computer or fryes something and the car doesnt start any more and you have to take it to the dealer it voids the warranty . i know that being around ford dealer here that if you have a installed a bully dog tuner to increase your performance on you f -350 diesel truck they flash the computer back to factory specs every time with out them telling you . you find out later driving it been flashed . the dealer says it voids the warranty at least at the local ford dealer here. it get costly to reprograme the computer if you dont own a programer
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