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micro-edge
I gave an estimate on some huge windows yesterday facing east that are 28"x142" and they are factory tinted double pane, tempered inside and out and doesn't look like there is any shading issues. Film selected was suntek syds 35% which im sure will be fine, it has a tsa of 43% and f2g looks like around 8, so im sure this will be fine but with such big panes it would be a bad day if it were to crack the glass or have seal failure. So should i be safe or should i be looking towards say silver 35%? Customer isn't crazy about it having too shiny of a look so if the syds isn't going to fly i may have to let it go. Opinions icon_confused.gif
tintman237
how would it be a bad day if breakage or seal faliure?

Doesn't Suntek give a warranty on glass icon_confused.gif dunno.gif I'd say do it, but V.......... where you at?
micro-edge
warranty up to 500 a pane, i think these babies would be mucho more than 500 apiece so i would hate to put anything up there to chance it. I can here v now "my company gives $2000 a pane eyebrows.gif " Flaugh.gif
tintman237
(micro-edge @ May 1 2007, 08:16 AM) [*]503927[/*]
I can here v now "my company gives $2000 a pane eyebrows.gif " Flaugh.gif



hmmmmmmm.gif So does mine rollin.gif


(micro-edge @ May 1 2007, 08:16 AM) [*]503927[/*]
warranty up to 500 a pane, i think these babies would be mucho more than 500 apiece so i would hate to put anything up there to chance it.



thumb.gif OK, I understand why you were asking what you were asking beer.gif
Cuttingedge
I still remember how it was to be starting ut so I wont be a smartass but you really should be sure of what film YOU feel comfortable with using before you go out and give an estimate. I know sometimes we get excited when we get a new customer and rush out to do the estimate, but in my experience you really should feel confident without a doubt about the film you are going to reccomend, otherwise if you go back out and say well NOW I dont think that film will work for you mam how about this one? Your customer will start to loose confidence in your ability at some point.
suntint
In the too many years I've been doing windows I've had maybe two or three breaks on tempered glass. I'd say you were pretty safe if the interior is tempered.
darkdan
If it's tempered you don't have anything to worry about.
Roach
I did windows that were probably a little bigger then that in total sq/ft w/ syds 50.. When I called about them - huge paladium windows - I seem to remember them saying 35% was the darkest I could go because a) the arch and b) they were *not* tempered.

Since yours are, I'd think it would be alright.


-R
FilmBlazer
(darkdan @ May 1 2007, 05:41 PM) [*]503967[/*]
If it's tempered you don't have anything to worry about.


When he's right, he's right. No worries whatsoever.
vclimber
(micro-edge @ May 1 2007, 08:16 AM) [*]503927[/*]
I can here v now "my company gives $2000 a pane eyebrows.gif " Flaugh.gif


You remember well. eyebrows.gif


(darkdan @ May 1 2007, 02:41 PM) [*]503967[/*]
If it's tempered you don't have anything to worry about.


Except seal failure. gasp.gif

(FilmBlazer @ May 1 2007, 03:45 PM) [*]503992[/*]
When he's right, he's right. No worries whatsoever.


Tempered will most likely not break with either film. Even seal failure would be a surprise but it is always possible so it comes down to warranty coverage. Use the film with the best warranty for this particular application. orngbiggrin.gif
micro-edge
Thanks guys, i feel confident in my film, my biggest concern was the windows being so long and that they were factory tinted so better safe then sorry. I put a sample of 35% on one window for them so they could check it out the next day and now they think the 35 is a little dark for their taste hmmmmmmm.gif so im going to go put them a sample of the 50 up there so really shouldn't see any probs with 50%.
darkdan
(vclimber @ May 1 2007, 06:36 PM) [*]504010[/*]
You remember well. eyebrows.gif
Except seal failure. gasp.gif
Tempered will most likely not break with either film. Even seal failure would be a surprise but it is always possible so it comes down to warranty coverage. Use the film with the best warranty for this particular application. orngbiggrin.gif



Well according to your company window tint doesn't make seals fail.
Tintbds
hmmmmmmm.gif Seal fail??? Break glass???? dunno.gif
tintman237
(darkdan @ May 2 2007, 02:50 PM) [*]504242[/*]
Well according to your company window tint doesn't make seals fail.



hmmmmmmm.gif according to most GOOD film companys, that actually do testing, window tint doesn't make seals fail, CHEAP AZZZ glass manufactoring is what makes seals fail inot.gif

But what do I know dunno.gif popcorn.gif
TINT
someone please show me a window that doesnt already have seal failure before its even tinted?? evilgrin.gif
FilmBlazer
(TINT @ May 3 2007, 02:44 AM) [*]504381[/*]
someone please show me a window that doesnt already have seal failure before its even tinted?? evilgrin.gif


werd.
darkdan


Yeah, every single window on my house failed BEFORE tint. I think they were about 8 years old when it first started. Now they're 12 and it's 100% failure except doors.
hoosierwindowtek
Film doesn't cause seal failure, but it does make it more noticeable if there's moisture inside the IG unit that hasn't been visible before.

If the glass you want to put film on is tinted, then you could use a dual-reflective film on them.

That way, there's not too much interior reflection, and also not as much heat absorption
vclimber
The seals will fail tint or no tint, if the film is on the glass when they do then guess who gets blamed? No, it's not the film's fault otherwise everything would go... But that is why it is nice to have a film warranty that can match the original glass warranty including the seal failure. Your are now off of the financial hook... twocents.gif





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