Dot Matrix Solution!
Thetintcenter
Jan 11 2008, 08:07 AM
I have been using a product for 3 years now and have never had a problem with peeling down from the dots. I use the Headlight Sealer solution on the dots. It dries clear and fills in all the dots for the film to stick. The sealer is from Liquid Resins, it's inexpensive and only takes a couple of minutes to set. It dries clear and is waterproof. I'm sure any brand headlight sealer will work, but I've never used any other.
blade
Jan 11 2008, 08:35 AM
does it brush on? spray on? what's the stuff you use? got a link?
Thetintcenter
Jan 11 2008, 08:39 AM
QUOTE (blade @ Jan 11 2008, 10:35 AM) [*]578479[/*] does it brush on? spray on? what's the stuff you use? got a link? www.liquidresins.com You apply it with a sponge paint brush - .25 cents each at hardware store. Or just a folded up Towel. It won't drip everywhere and is not slimy.
thatsnappyguy
Jan 11 2008, 09:27 AM
i dont know.....the kiddy's blue glue aways worked for me. but i gotta give u credit for thinking of another product to use. hey what about clear silcone? i was thinking about trying that but i wanted to get some insight on it first.
Thetintcenter
Jan 11 2008, 09:53 AM
QUOTE (thatsnappyguy @ Jan 11 2008, 11:27 AM) [*]578492[/*] i dont know.....the kiddy's blue glue aways worked for me. but i gotta give u credit for thinking of another product to use. hey what about clear silcone? i was thinking about trying that but i wanted to get some insight on it first. I've tried silicone but nothing really sticks to it. It repels water and was really messy and took hours to dry.
CajunTinter
Jan 11 2008, 10:39 AM
Is it odorless ??
Thetintcenter
Jan 11 2008, 10:43 AM
QUOTE (CajunTinter @ Jan 11 2008, 12:39 PM) [*]578509[/*] Is it odorless ??  Yes! There is no smell or at least a non offensive smell. You just brush it on...let it dry (1 or 2 min.) and then tint over it. It dries clear and has stayed clear on my car 04' Mustang for just over 3 years.
TITAN500
Jan 11 2008, 11:21 AM
is it part #960? 1oz bottle for 50.00 and change?
Thetintcenter
Jan 11 2008, 11:40 AM
QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:21 PM) [*]578523[/*] is it part #960? 1oz bottle for 50.00 and change?  19.95 for 1 oz. does about 40 - 50 rear windows. www.liquidresins.com
TITAN500
Jan 11 2008, 11:42 AM
QUOTE (Thetintcenter @ Jan 11 2008, 12:40 PM) [*]578528[/*] 19.95 for 1 oz. does about 40 - 50 rear windows.
www.liquidresins.com can you give me the part #? thanks
Thetintcenter
Jan 11 2008, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 11 2008, 01:42 PM) [*]578531[/*] can you give me the part #? thanks  There is no part# for this product it is called - 1 oz Headlight Restoration Clear Coat Solution. Just click on the headlight link and scroll down.
TITAN500
Jan 11 2008, 12:06 PM
QUOTE (Thetintcenter @ Jan 11 2008, 12:54 PM) [*]578533[/*] There is no part# for this product it is called - 1 oz Headlight Restoration Clear Coat Solution. Just click on the headlight link and scroll down. gotcha thanks dood
Key West
Jan 12 2008, 02:13 PM
 DOOD! thats genius. Same theory as the BlueGlue, but neater!!! Ya got my vote so far if it comes up for TOTW!!!!
naughtydog
Jan 12 2008, 02:41 PM
sounds good. I bet you could use it on all windows not just back windows at the top.
I will be ordering some.
FilmBlazer
Jan 12 2008, 04:59 PM
Oh yeah! I'm on it!
CleanCutter
Jan 13 2008, 02:14 PM
not bad .. only $2553.60 a gallon.
isn't this the same thing as 3M Edge Sealer (p/n 3950)? more or less? Clear resin, about $13.50 an 8oz can Used to use the 3M stuff back in the early 90's for dots all the time. When Filmhandler was just a tool seller, they used to sell the heck out of that stuff.
Thetintcenter
Jan 13 2008, 02:18 PM
QUOTE (CleanCutter @ Jan 13 2008, 04:14 PM) [*]579232[/*] not bad .. only $2553.60 a gallon.
isn't this the same thing as 3M Edge Sealer? more or less? Clear resin. Used to use the 3M stuff back in the early 90's for dots all the time. When Filmhandler was just a tolld seller, they used to sell the heck out of that stuff. So charge like you would for vinyl! $25.00 extra per car...Not bad either! Or you could call them and get a better price buying in bulk.
FilmBlazer
Jan 13 2008, 02:50 PM
Good point, I'll try some CPFilms edge sealer on my own car to test it out
TITAN500
Jan 16 2008, 02:11 PM
orderd some today, will report back once i try it on a 08 civic coupe......man i hope it works.
naughtydog
Jan 16 2008, 02:47 PM
I will be interested in your results Titan. I am not sure if they ship to the UK.
goldtooth
Jan 17 2008, 10:24 AM
QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 16 2008, 05:11 PM) [*]580324[/*] orderd some today, will report back once i try it on a 08 civic coupe......man i hope it works.  looking forward to the result
kats2112
Jan 20 2008, 10:18 PM
Anybody remember that stuff " do-dot "? Had a brush in the lid? Smelled like contact cement? We used to sing the song... Guess what smells like airplane glue? Do dot, Do dot!
Mike S
Mar 15 2008, 01:47 PM
do you let the top of the film hang and dry first, like with the blue glue? Could you explain a little more how you apply it. This seems like a great tip
naughtydog
Mar 15 2008, 05:17 PM
Paint it on, let it dry, apply film - Done. 2 coats works better.
true-tinter
Mar 15 2008, 05:26 PM
 this the stuff ..................dang that sure is a tiny bottle
Mike S
Mar 15 2008, 07:11 PM
So squirt some on a simple bristle or foam brush, brush it on, let it dry then spray soap solution and install like normal?
Thetintcenter
Mar 16 2008, 08:00 PM
QUOTE (Mike S @ Mar 15 2008, 10:11 PM) [*]605216[/*] So squirt some on a simple bristle or foam brush, brush it on, let it dry then spray soap solution and install like normal? I usually wipe the dots with rubbing alcohol let dry. Then apply a small amount with foam brush covering the dots. Shrink your rear window as the heat will the solution dry faster then tint as usual. it dries waterproof and fills in the gaps of the dots. Sometimes you may need a second coat for thicker dots.
Mdog
Mar 18 2008, 05:14 AM
This sounds like a cool idea
sunslayer
Mar 18 2008, 07:51 PM
hows the taste compared to blue glue?
tint_audiopros
Mar 18 2008, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 16 2008, 01:11 PM) [*]580324[/*] orderd some today, will report back once i try it on a 08 civic coupe......man i hope it works. we've had good luck on these 08 civic coupes using nothing & doing nothing to prep the dots using qdp install film like normal then relifting the film only on the matrix re-wet and squeegee using only a yellow rubber wrapped in a towl. It gives you that released look everywhere like it lifted away from the dots (no complaints yet) but atleast its not sticking here & not there. We've never had good luck using glue on honda matrix dots.
Sprinter
Mar 23 2008, 06:40 PM
QUOTE (Thetintcenter @ Mar 16 2008, 09:00 PM) [*]605477[/*] QUOTE (Mike S @ Mar 15 2008, 10:11 PM) [*]605216[/*] So squirt some on a simple bristle or foam brush, brush it on, let it dry then spray soap solution and install like normal? I usually wipe the dots with rubbing alcohol let dry. Then apply a small amount with foam brush covering the dots. Shrink your rear window as the heat will the solution dry faster then tint as usual. it dries waterproof and fills in the gaps of the dots. Sometimes you may need a second coat for thicker dots.  whats it look like when your done, does it look white or is all of it black looking as if you used the blue glue??
Thetintcenter
Mar 24 2008, 06:35 AM
QUOTE (Sprinter @ Mar 23 2008, 08:40 PM) [*]607585[/*] QUOTE (Thetintcenter @ Mar 16 2008, 09:00 PM) [*]605477[/*] QUOTE (Mike S @ Mar 15 2008, 10:11 PM) [*]605216[/*] So squirt some on a simple bristle or foam brush, brush it on, let it dry then spray soap solution and install like normal? I usually wipe the dots with rubbing alcohol let dry. Then apply a small amount with foam brush covering the dots. Shrink your rear window as the heat will the solution dry faster then tint as usual. it dries waterproof and fills in the gaps of the dots. Sometimes you may need a second coat for thicker dots.  whats it look like when your done, does it look white or is all of it black looking as if you used the blue glue?? It finishes Black as if there weren't any dots at all. I've know I'm going to get told some things after I say this but here it goes. I tested out Glue sticks, blue glue, clear glue, etc. against the headlight sealant using UV lamp and the sealant never cracked or flaked, all the others did. I believe the reason is that the glues don't have a UV inhibitor to stop the break down of the glue. The glue may work well in some areas where the sun isn't as bad as in Florida, Texas and the southern states. This is in no way saying that the glue method doesn't look good (from the outside) I'm just asking how long will it last?
wetintcars.com
Sep 28 2009, 02:18 PM
Okay, so now over a year has gone by since this was first posted.
Do any of these cars that anybody used the resin on still look good?
I'd like an update on this one.
Brenter The Tinter
Sep 28 2009, 07:16 PM
I'm curious as well, I have lost all hope for a solution other than vinyl.
wetintcars.com
Oct 3 2009, 12:26 PM
Looks like no one wants to comment on this one.
TNTLady
Oct 3 2009, 01:02 PM
Yeah, hows it working folks?
TintWizard
Oct 3 2009, 04:48 PM
QUOTE (wetintcars.com @ Sep 28 2009, 05:18 PM) [*]719362[/*] Okay, so now over a year has gone by since this was first posted.
Do any of these cars that anybody used the resin on still look good?
I'd like an update on this one. QUOTE (wetintcars.com @ Oct 3 2009, 03:26 PM) [*]720602[/*] Looks like no one wants to comment on this one.  QUOTE (TNTLady @ Oct 3 2009, 04:02 PM) [*]720610[/*] Yeah, hows it working folks?  They are too busy scrubbing the back windows down to post
TNTLady
Oct 3 2009, 09:56 PM
watchdaride
Oct 4 2009, 01:18 PM
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Mar 18 2008, 08:21 PM) [*]606116[/*] QUOTE (TITAN500 @ Jan 16 2008, 01:11 PM) [*]580324[/*] orderd some today, will report back once i try it on a 08 civic coupe......man i hope it works. we've had good luck on these 08 civic coupes using nothing & doing nothing to prep the dots using qdp install film like normal then relifting the film only on the matrix re-wet and squeegee using only a yellow rubber wrapped in a towl. It gives you that released look everywhere like it lifted away from the dots (no complaints yet) but atleast its not sticking here & not there. We've never had good luck using glue on honda matrix dots.  Agree honda , bmw only problems . Glue solves the rest
naughtydog
Oct 4 2009, 01:55 PM
I used it on quite a few cars and never had any back, I wanted it for just the small areas of matrix that border most windows, for very fussy customers.
It does work, but I found you needed 2 coats for the best effect.
b7adh
Oct 4 2009, 03:20 PM
naughty - where did you get the glue. i would love to try it, what does it look like on cars such as corsa b and golf mk4 etc - does it still leave a white band.
advancedsolarsolutions
Oct 4 2009, 04:41 PM
QUOTE (b7adh @ Oct 4 2009, 06:20 PM) [*]720733[/*] naughty - where did you get the glue. i would love to try it, what does it look like on cars such as corsa b and golf mk4 etc - does it still leave a white band. I used it before I got ill. It works great and dries so there isn't a white silver looking appearance around the dots. Here is the link to order it. http://www.liquidresins.com/headlight-rest...tion-system.htm
naughtydog
Oct 5 2009, 02:58 AM
It works OK, it can have a bit of a washed out look on the matrix, I think it looks better than a silver matrix though.
b7adh
Oct 5 2009, 03:25 PM
anypics of cars that youve used it on and not used it on?
naughtydog
Oct 7 2009, 01:44 AM
I used it yesterday - it worked like a champ! I did a Vauxhall VXR8 - I think it's based on the Aussie Holden. I did'nt like the car. Be careful heating the outside of the doors...smokin before you know it. I used the resin on the back window - it has a similar setup to a 3 series BMW., I cut around the brake light as the brake light seemed to be screwed to the headlining - what a silly set-up. I told the guy about pushing the damp matrix around the base of the brak light down in a few days So hears a pic.
b7adh
Oct 7 2009, 10:05 AM
looks good, will it look the same as it dries out though? when it comes in again get another pic - i might get some of this and give it a whirl
naughtydog
Oct 7 2009, 11:34 AM
On this car it looked awesome - he is coming back in a few days as the windows on this car had some crazy %&$# on the window, i had to use a lot of soap so I want to drop the windows for him.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Oct 7 2009, 12:48 PM
QUOTE (sunslayer @ Mar 18 2008, 10:51 PM) [*]606108[/*] hows the taste compared to blue glue?   to funny...tell me your joking...reminds me of a preschool horror story i have from when i was a kid
callwild
Oct 12 2009, 03:45 AM
QUOTE (b7adh @ Oct 4 2009, 11:20 PM) [*]720733[/*] naughty - where did you get the glue. i would love to try it, what does it look like on cars such as corsa b and golf mk4 etc - does it still leave a white band. What he says. Did you buy it direct from the States? This seems a better solution than glue for most UK car problems. Glue works well on large areas of dot matrix with easy access but on most of the cars in the UK with a very narrow dot matrix, which is often combined with sliding the film behind interior trim, it is often impossible to lift the edge and apply glue. This solution which can be applied first left to dry and then install the film as normal sounds good.
naughtydog
Oct 12 2009, 08:37 AM
QUOTE (callwild @ Oct 12 2009, 04:45 AM) [*]722464[/*] QUOTE (b7adh @ Oct 4 2009, 11:20 PM) [*]720733[/*] naughty - where did you get the glue. i would love to try it, what does it look like on cars such as corsa b and golf mk4 etc - does it still leave a white band. What he says. Did you buy it direct from the States? This seems a better solution than glue for most UK car problems. Glue works well on large areas of dot matrix with easy access but on most of the cars in the UK with a very narrow dot matrix, which is often combined with sliding the film behind interior trim, it is often impossible to lift the edge and apply glue. This solution which can be applied first left to dry and then install the film as normal sounds good. I imported it directly from USA. I went though a phase of using it a lot - it works but is the time it takes worth it? Can you charge for that time? Not always!! For a really fussy customer - if you can pre-empt them - it would be worth it.
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