What the heck is wrong with you Suzy Safedrivers

What the hell is with you goody two shoes freaks that have to constantly bash people that want to put on tint that is even the least bit darker than what is legal for the state the poster is posting from?



All I hear are things like watch out for little Ricky on the bike, or that pedestrian or don’t hit that car you can’t see.



There is a valid point in not tinting the windshield. There is even a small valid point on the front side windows when your going 5%, but the windows can be rolled down when visibility is poor for making a turn. Most of the viewing is done from the front so if anybody is going to get ran over it is going to be from the front.



I hear that cops can’t see in the car. BS. Guns can be hidden next to the seat and not seen even with the windows rolled down. Tint has nothing to do with it.



Why is it that a car has a restriction on back windows but an SUV doesn’t? Does an SUV has some magical power that allows people to see out limo tint that a car does not possess? No. Why are the laws different?



I doubt you Suzy Safedriver tinters would have a problem putting legal 5 % on rear windows of an SUV but if we are talking about a car you start preaching a damn sermon on the immoral, unsafe tinting of the car. Why is that?



If tint was so friggen unsafe then why do law enforcement vehicles, in many if not all states, have no restriction on tint? Cops are not robots or superhuman. They have the same eyes as us. It must not be illegal for us common peasant folk because of vision limitation. I have a cop car down the road and he has 15% at the max on his car but it looks even darker.



If I was driving a van with no rear windows then what the hell is the difference between that and a car with dark tint in the back? Either way you can't see in.

Usually people introduce themselves on their 1st post...

i wonder why most people dont drive around with dark sunglass on at night all the time?

Wow, Ive never seen anybody get banned on there first post

Anybody taking bets on who this is

not really wanting to get in this but what the hell here gose. ..one....its not trucks its mpv veh. that accupy 7 pas or more and only up to the widows behind the driver pass can be tinted dark ... two.... mpv's have larger side view mirrors then cars if a car has only one side mirror you cant tint it .... third..... most people dont wanna roll there window down at the drive thru what makes you think there going to roll it down to see at every turn.....four... its the law and here in s.c. and if your stoped with illegal film (no stiker in window on where and who done it) they can and will fine up to but not more then 1500.00 and or 30 days impound your car for being unsafe etc...etc...five ....as far as the law haveing dark windows will......there the law they have the ticket book....... lol

he done worse then me on my first post huh willie l

I think my first one was ok, but the 2nd -100th me and old tint rookie went at it pretty hard.
We all live and learn

anyone that puts limo on front doors is a dumbazz as far as the back windows no prob.

When was the last time you had to walk up on a car you just pulled over on a desolate road at night and got shot in the face because you couldn't see the driver reaching under his seat for his glock?

never?

i ll be honest. i had 5% on a few vehicles i had. but i do remember having a hard time seeing at night sometimes. so now i dont have it "quite" as dark. on my truck, i have a light shade of qdp, with another light shade if fusion on top it...you can see straight through my windows, BUT blocks some serious heat that way. i have been doin that at the shop lately. ppl want the heat blockage without the shinny stuff. so basically i tint thier car with qdp and fusion on top. takes a lil longer to dry but its getting popular and more ppl are getting that. of course it cost more.

I love first post like this. Either someone who got ran off. Or just someone who has absolutely no common sense.


Here is a clue, if people can't see in, you can't see out!

amen!! that says it all

did this guy really get banned already??? thats gotta be a record of only 1 post b4 u get the boot.

he got banned that is so funny td must reallly not like this guy

This sounds like a job for the Tint Terrorist

probably a tinter that wouldn't have anything to tint if they didn't tint illegal.........

I didn't ban anyone, this is actually the first time I've seen this thread, not sure why I didn't notice it earlier

Please explain to me the process by which this shooting would take place. I will try to give you some scenarios. A dark country road. A cop pulls over a 4 door whatever car and all the windows are tinted at 20%, which is probably illegal in all states. Does the driver get out of the car to shoot the cop? Does the driver keep all the windows up and shoot the cop through the closed windows? Keep in mind that the spotlight from the police car is blazing in through the back window no matter what tint is on it. Or is the drivers side window down a few inches and the driver pokes the gun out the window? Do you really think that a cop is going to approach a car with the window down a few inches? If the window is down all the way then the tint percent is really a moot point. Or, mayb the driver puts the window mostly down and the tint doesn't all the cop to see the gun?

Why do you assume the driver has to reach under the seat. Maybe the gun is on his lap or in the map pocket in the door. How is 20% tint on a drivers window going to cause the death of a cop when a 35% legal tint, in some states, won't cause the death of cop.

So are we talking about the two front side windows here or the rest of the windows?

All due respect Olfa and sorry for your loss, But did the peice of that killed those cops have illegal tint? I personaly believe if someone is going to try something like that, tint isn't going to change anything. I feel like law enforcement should order you out of the car if they can't see in from the car with a spotlight. Though I don't like his approach I kinda have to agree with the point livingabroad is trying to make. Also any time I've ever been pulled over the cop had a bright mag light that made my 15% look clear.


BTW that picture is sad, but it's being used for legislation propaganda, and isn't that wrong?

It's really hard to say because... this person actually has a grasp of how to use the English language and assemble sentences and use grammar

personally if i wanted to shoot a cop i could do it without having a single window in my car... every cop car is equipped with a p.a. and a cop takes his job knowing the risks... and if he or she is too scared to walk up to a vehicle because of tint or no tint whip out the pa and say step out of the vehicle makes life so much easier... in lousiana i hear the cops tell them to step out of the vehicle regardless... all in all i respect cops and am glad we have them cuz they do i job i wouldnt consider.. but not being able to tint illegally has lost me alot of money and it doesnt seem fair.. i had a customer call yesterday said he wanted 20 percent all the way around on his truck i said i can do it on the back but the front has to be 28 percent mississippi legal he said alright bud ill do to lousiana and have it done...if a person wants illegal tint the ticket should go to them not the shop also... another point... in mississippi you can get a medical exemption for tint that allows tinting of any darkness on any window whos to say the guy i tinted 5% all the way around and 35% on the windshield the other day isnt plannin on shooting a cop? you cant see in 28% at night so why not give tinting some purpose and make everyones lives better by making it 20% all the way around on cars.

wow not a single window I mean how the hell do see to drive ???

anything dark then 20% is harder to see out at night and bad weather. you dont have to E=mc to know that wake up dud they make the law you pay when you break it ...........the end

Thats absolutely lame. Don't play the "Sympathy for the poor, under appreciated officer of the law" card. That justification for the current laws won't hold water. While you're at it, post pics of the officers slain along side the road during traffic stops by other vehicles, or pics of the dead officers that got shot during a domestic dispute. See which category gets you more pics as well. By law enforcements own admission, LEO safety is NOT a real threat, it's only a thinly veiled justification. They do not crack down on the illegal shops, for the most part, because illegal tint will give them probable cause to pull you over where no other probable cause exists and they like that.
The ONLY reason I keep it legal is the fact that it's against the law. If the laws change, so does my business model. Now, if you want to talk about the real safety issue, how dark is too dark to see out of safely at night, no prob!! But even then, thats a subjective. Everyones eyes are different. I have no problem seeing thru 20% at night, and I live in a semi-rural area, and am night blind as well. (But I DO have a REAL MedEx) What made this country great was the fact that we "used to" have the right to do things that others thought were stupid. Yep, stupid, but as long as it did not infringe upon thier right to do what I feel is stupid, nobody has a right to tell you what you can or cannot do.


If you feel that a cop has the right to a completely safe working environment, then by all means lets put glass walls and doors on our houses, so that they can see what they are up against when they are serving warrants,  or responding to a domestic dispute (FAR and above the most unpredictable and dangerous situation a cop faces) They already have thermal imaging, for christs sake!! They CAN see into your house and thats not a good thing.

I am not anti law enforcement, just anti legal system. Our legal system is broken, and cannot be fixed in it's current state. Our government is already WAAY too intrusive into our private lives.

But then, thats not something too many of you out there are really worried about, is it? You can't be bothered with constitutional rights, unless of course they are YOUR rights, in which case I'll bet you I can hear you screaming about it way down heah in nawth by gawd jawergah!!!

Keep in mind when they are trying to enact legislation that targets the "rights" of criminals. What is applicable to one, is applicable to all. They take away a right that protects the criminal, they take away a right that protects YOU as well. You may not think that it affects you, but when it finally DOES affect you, it's TOO LATE!!!

Question? I have seen a lot of commercially wrapped vehicles driving around that no one can see in through. Isn't that a loophole in the laws about tint darkness? These vehicles don't have any tint on them but you can't see the driver. I am a legal tinter in case anyone was wondering. It just bothers me that businesses with full wraps on there cars can get away with this.

"true-tinter" your wrong E=mc squared... and the fact of the matter is not a car with all metal use your E=mc to figure that figuritive speech out if a cop walks up to my car and all four windows are down i could still shoot him just as well as with dark tint... and if they were worried about 20% being too dark to see out of at night or in bad weather new mexico's law wouldnt be 20% all the way around a car.. or does it not get dark there or ever rain? the fact of the matter is everyone is subject to voice their opinion and you my friend should act like an elder with some class about yourself with 15 years experience instead of letting a 20 year old with 3 and a half years experience tell you how you should act

I guarantee that you can see the driver thru the front two. This is just one more case of selective enforcement. Next, you're gonna see the new "cross-overs" coming out with factory tint. And how about the laws wording? An SUV/Multi purpose vehicle is one that is built on a truck frame, designed to carry 6 passengers or more, or designed for occasional off-road use. The PT Cruiser is basically a Neon wagon, yet it has factory tint, a WRX is a rally car, designed for off-road, yet dark film is illegal for them (As of now. If someone challenges it tho........ )
They can make a law that contravenes the constitution, and if nobody challenges it it stays. Case in point. The gun control laws have been pretty much unconstitutional for decades, yat the supreme court is JUST NOW hearing it on its constitutional merits. Because someone is finally challenging them.
Tint laws stay in effect because it's cheaper to just pay the fine than it would be to fight. And people bitch about the government overstepping thier bounds, yet do nothing to stop them. And if you think its OK to "give up a few rights" in the name of national security "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security, deserves neither, and will lose both." B. Franklin

Damn Key..... looks like I am gonna have to pizz in your thermus when you come to PA ....

here we go again. looks like the "gang" is back together.

You sir, are a douche nozzle. You sit and act all poor me everyone is ganging up on me. When it is in fact yourself acting like an ass clown that invites insult.

holy cow! i agree with key west again! i am with you on the law trying to get in someones person affairs alittle to much. as long as i am paying my truck note and insurance i don't feel they have the right to tell me what i can do to it. and everyones eyes are different.

i don't agree with the TI camera statement. they can't see in to your house with a TIC. it can't actually see through walls it only can pic up a hot water pipe or maybe a wire that is getting hot and hasn't thrown a breaker. and it cant see through glass either. now in the dark they are awesome! those things have saved alot of lives.

dude, did someone pizz in your oatmeal this morning? i am not acting poor me, i made a statement and was kinda joking around about it. and as for acting like an azz clown i think you may need to sit and ponder on that on for a minute. go look in the mirror, if you see someone there with a little red nose and curly hair with a silly little hat don't be shocked!

Everyone just ease up

I really wish I could somehow make peace in these situations, but it's a no win situation for me. If I do nothing, the older members accuse me of taking sides, if I do something, I'm accused of being a post n@zi. There is really no good way for me to ask people to be peaceful and considerate, nor can I please either side in an argument.

This leads to a lot of hurt feelings that somehow, even though I'm not involved in any way, become my fault for at least one side and usually both sides. Some use this to their advantage and try to create a "common enemy" situation, where good old TD becomes the focus of everyone's anger fed by the situations mentioned above.

It's predictable really.

It is pointless TD to have any peace when there is a certain new member who is constantly surrounding himself with drama at the drop of a hat.

TD you are the man! i don't hold anything against you at all. you are a person just like any one else, so you have a view that may not agree with everyone elses at certain times. I think you do a great job.

I think it is interesting to see were different people stand at on different subjects. my comment about the "gang" was a joke. some people need to relax a little. i put the laughing icon thing so everyone would know it was not serious.

This coming from mr drama himself, some of you guys crying wolf all the time is pitiful.
If you dont like his posts then dont read them,quit whining all the time around here

- i do what the custy wants - they are made aware of the laws and if they would be breaking them on public roadways - public roadways being the point - when the car is in your tint shop its on private property and not subject to tint laws - my personal opinion - i dont like anything darker than 15%, and im sure that will lighten as my sight gets worse - lastly MAKE custy AWARE - also let them know your not a lawyer and to give legal advice wouldn't be right

PITSTOP....I would suggest that you take your OWN advice.

I am referring to the PM you sent me about the post in the PPF section that was between Tintzeus and Tint and nothing to do with you at all but you "CRYED WOLF" about it.

Before you start calling people out you may want to reference your own actions.

exactly

no comments for me?

Can't have you feeling left out. I just hope that you never have to stand in front of a Judge and tell him that your shop is private property and not subject to the tint laws. But if the worst DOES happen, I want to be there and get video of the Judges response. THAT would be priceless, indeed!!!

I apologize if I offended you in any way. Also as stated in the pm that was conveniently left out is I was and am not trying to cause any harm.
I simply wanted to know why certain posts in foo bar get editied and that thread didnt?
I will be more careful in the future. Sorry again I like the cleaner getting along board a whole lot better