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I am trying to STOP installing alarms now. With Can-Bus systems they have become a pain.
I would look at code alarm or directed electronics.... they both have pretty comprehensive programs/wiring diagrams/etc...
QUOTE (naughtydog @ Mar 20 2008, 02:48 AM) [*]606487[/*] I am trying to STOP installing alarms now. With Can-Bus systems they have become a pain.
Try www.the12volt.com
QUOTE (Mr paladin @ Mar 20 2008, 05:39 PM) [*]606653[/*] QUOTE (naughtydog @ Mar 20 2008, 02:48 AM) [*]606487[/*] I am trying to STOP installing alarms now. With Can-Bus systems they have become a pain. what are Can-Bus systems
your best bet is to become a DEI dealer, i.e. Viper, Python, Sidewinder, Hornet, AutoMate and get there techsoft.ABSOLUTELY the best wire schematics and tech support. I stand behind them 100% even with this CAN BUS %&$#.
QUOTE (secretagentswole @ Mar 20 2008, 11:39 PM) [*]606799[/*] your best bet is to become a DEI dealer, i.e. Viper, Python, Sidewinder, Hornet, AutoMate and get there techsoft.ABSOLUTELY the best wire schematics and tech support. I stand behind them 100% even with this CAN BUS %&$#. can u pm me their contact info? and please explain this Can Bus stuff, never heard of it
IMO, if u dont know anything about alarms, i would say its a lil late to get into it. all these new cars and thier problems with alarm installs. its all BS! the industry of alarms installation is going down the drain. all these new cars have remote start and its just going to get better each year....from the factory. once u start attempting to bypass that...u asking for trouble. i know guys that been doin it for 20 years that dont want to have anything to do with the new cars. some are ok, most are a nightmares. Its a garrantee that you will eventually learn the hard way by calling a tow truck to get a vehicle sent to the dealer to get reprogrammed....at you expense. is all that worth a stupid alarm that wasted your whole day already? i have done them in the past when they werent so hard...now i totally refuse to get under a dash. the most you will get me doing is a "simple" radio install. and if in the middle of it i find out that there is BS to make it not so simple, i hand it off. Tinting is too simple to waste time dealing with alarms.
QUOTE (thatsnappyguy @ Mar 20 2008, 08:58 PM) [*]606803[/*] IMO, if u dont know anything about alarms, i would say its a lil late to get into it. all these new cars and thier problems with alarm installs. its all BS! the industry of alarms installation is going down the drain. all these new cars have remote start and its just going to get better each year....from the factory. once u start attempting to bypass that...u asking for trouble. i know guys that been doin it for 20 years that dont want to have anything to do with the new cars. some are ok, most are a nightmares. Its a garrantee that you will eventually learn the hard way by calling a tow truck to get a vehicle sent to the dealer to get reprogrammed....at you expense. is all that worth a stupid alarm that wasted your whole day already? i have done them in the past when they werent so hard...now i totally refuse to get under a dash. the most you will get me doing is a "simple" radio install. and if in the middle of it i find out that there is BS to make it not so simple, i hand it off. Tinting is too simple to waste time dealing with alarms. kinda like when all this 32v %&$# came out man, I was like f**k this %&$#. Were gonna fry somin, iam out!! I started 12v when I was 16 in 96 and got out went straight tint in 01. QUOTE (thatsnappyguy @ Mar 20 2008, 11:58 PM) [*]606803[/*] IMO, if u dont know anything about alarms, i would say its a lil late to get into it. all these new cars and thier problems with alarm installs. its all BS! the industry of alarms installation is going down the drain. all these new cars have remote start and its just going to get better each year....from the factory. once u start attempting to bypass that...u asking for trouble. i know guys that been doin it for 20 years that dont want to have anything to do with the new cars. some are ok, most are a nightmares. Its a garrantee that you will eventually learn the hard way by calling a tow truck to get a vehicle sent to the dealer to get reprogrammed....at you expense. is all that worth a stupid alarm that wasted your whole day already? i have done them in the past when they werent so hard...now i totally refuse to get under a dash. the most you will get me doing is a "simple" radio install. and if in the middle of it i find out that there is BS to make it not so simple, i hand it off. Tinting is too simple to waste time dealing with alarms. kool,i understand that very well. how about adding
add somthing simple that wont be so much trouble. pinstriping, vehicle graphics, detailing, dash kits,....F*** alarms.
QUOTE (thatsnappyguy @ Mar 21 2008, 10:57 AM) [*]606919[/*] add somthing simple that wont be so much trouble. pinstriping, vehicle graphics, detailing, dash kits,....F*** alarms.
I dont wish to appear rude...but if you are not up with the latest vehicle systems and you have no history or experience installing vehicle security, I think you are asking for trouble.
I have been installing alarms for over 20 years now...and I now choose to pass up most jobs. The new cars are becoming more difficult to install to, just getting a siren wire through the firewall can be a major obstacle these days. Mr P is of the same mindset as me - steer well clear and look for some other less riskier opportunity.
THANX GUYZ!! YOU'VE ELIMINATED ALOT OF GUESSWORK FOR ME!!!
15 years of alarms for me they are getting to b a bit of a pain i only do them for select people now strictly tint for me
I've been doing alarms and remote starts for about 7 years. They are becoming a pain in the arse to do now on the new cars. If you dont want to do the pain in the arse car then pick and choose the easy cars charge through the roof for the hard cars. I still think the basic alarms are gravy. for the basic I still can make $130 profit in about a half to an hour.
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