WARNING for Dark Tint Outlaws

It has been said that ignorance of the law is no excuse, and every time questions regarding the law are brought up, I cite the appropriate statutes. That way there really IS no excuse, because not only the original poster, but all who read the thread now know what the law reads and the possible ramifications. Whether or not to follow it is up to the individual. What I find really amusing is that you post I am "Lambasting" for constantly posting and citing statute, while every other day someone posts something asinine about getting busted for !llegal tint, or wanting to know what the laws are, or why the laws are. The "BEST" ones are the posts about how one can "get around these laws without actually breaking them", or how can one tint darker without getting caught. Do you not get tired of THAT? The laws are out there for everyone to read, and an internet forum is NOT the place to seek legal advice. It seems that everyone is aware of the law and what it says, yet many people disagree with the law (myself included). And it would seem that most of those who post about the laws are on a fishing expedition to have SOMEONE "validate" the fact that they tinted illegally. Bottom line is that if you choose to tint !llegal and get caught, you got nuthin' coming. No sympathy, nada. No one who does iillegal installs (especially when they admit it in public, or get caught and want "validation") deserves sympathy. I do admire the Tint Phantoms motivation, since the tread title was to WARN others, and the general gist of his post was to learn from his mistakes. He asked what he was facing, I answered. If thats a pot shot, or lambasting, , OH WELL!!!
If this same response is posted over and over, or has been beaten into the ground, then maybe it's a reflection of the intellect of the masses, because the same topic keeps coming up over and over again, and beaten into the ground. Why on earth would one go to an internet forum to seek legal advise? I am not refering to TintPhantom, but to the multitutes who come here asking WHY they got a ticket, or they want to know if someone here "thinks" they can get away with tinting illegally. People get away with breaking the laws every day. But do it enough, you'll get caught. It's that simple. I tell people every day..............It's not a matter of IF you'll get a ticket, it's a matter of WHEN.
And !llegal tint DOES give everyone in this industry a black eye.

Very well said Key. I don't think i was looking for simpathy even thow it looks like that, I just wanted to warn others that the law is enforcing it more these day's. I WENT OVER 8 years without being sited for illeagal tint, now every body is getting sited. The good side of this is buisness will pick up a little for all the redos.

This COULD be a chance to fight the laws, if you can afford the hit. In any event, I hope all goes well. Keep me posted.

As posted by TD:
Let's put this thread up as a reference to point to for customers that post here who may be inclined to tint darker than legal.

Instead of repeating the same old arguments, we can just give a link to this thread.

A link to this thread will also appear in the side navigation for easy reference, so, let's hear some of the many good reasons to keep it legal!

Reasons to Keep it Legal Thread

I agree , good idea how many time's can metal be folded before you have a samuri sword.

I do so agree!!! bend, bend, bend, ooops sword!!!

I tint many law enforcement vehicles including marked police units, DEA undercover units, Narcotics Task Force undercover units, and even the local District Attorney units and not one single car is tinted legally. Never have they wanted 70% up front. The usual is more like 30% and sometimes as low as 5%. I have tinted multiple marked police cruisers with 50% on the front windows. If local law enforcement doesnt even follow the laws how can you expect a normal citizen too. Just my thought.

Ditto! Tint, they do it around my way too & their personal vehicles, in fact a friend of mine who is a detective has 5% all around his personal vehicle & when he gets stopped for speeding etc, he just shows them his badge & nothing happens.

I understand the other persons views and respect then all---we all have the right to voice our opinions as well as share our experiences with others. I have 5% all the way around except the windshield--I do in fact have a legit medical exemption that allows it. I will be driving to the Atlantic City, NJ area in couple of weeks and will not be surprised if I am stopped at least twice---I don't have a problem with this as I keep my medex on my dash as my law here in Mississippi states I have too. If I have a medical condition in MS, I also have one in TN, VA, GA, NJ..... I will let you know what happens if interesed when I return.


Be Safe

Mark me down as not interested

No problems---I have arrived back to Mississippi and thought I would update you all. Let me say first that I aplogize for cluttering up the forum this way but it's easier to respond this way. I had 12-15 calls on my cell while enroute to Atlantic City for a conference concerning the 5% tint I have on my windows. I had a VA state tropper say something to me while getting gas, I said I have a exemption and he said have a good day and be careful--never asked to see it. I stopped at a service center in New Jersey and and I was leaving a tropper stopped me. I showed him my exemption, DL and proof of insurance--no problems.


Be Safe

Well im still slinging tint. I fought the law and i won! a little insite on getting busted for todark tint. there's to ways to handle the laws. #1 lay down like a lamb, admit your gilt pay the fines carry a conviction and a criminal record.or #2 buy the best lawyer in town and take your time going to tial, drag it out for as long as you can.file a continiuance wave your right to a speedy tial. after about 3 months the district attorny is antsy to get your case off his docket and is willing to make a deal. all i had to do is plea nocontest and pay court cost all charges were droped.even the traffic tickets. alls THANKS to all who supported me, GOOD LUCK TO ALL!

Way to go TP............

Great that things worked out in your favor

Check your states laws before you state that LEO vehicles are being tinted !llegal. Almost every state has an exemption for certain vehicles, Cop cars being one of those exemptions. I'm not saying its so in your state, but I'd bet it is. Is it right? NO! Is it fair? NO! Do I agree with it? NO! But it's the way it is, and it's the law. Whether or not we agree with it, or no matter how unfair or unjust, we either follow the laws or reap the consequences. Sorry if someone thinks I am lambasting. No amount of debating the fairness or righteousness of these laws is gonna change these laws. The simple fact is that they are laws to be enforced. We all have choices to either obey them or not. And just because one lives in a state that allows only 50% (or lighter) and darker is legal in other states does NOT give one lisence to break the laws in thier state. Don't like the laws in your state? Either try and get them changed, or move to a more tint friendly state. Or you can just do what you want, tint however you want, but just don't look for sympathy.

Sliderred, If there is a law enforcement exemption in your state, by extention the exemption applies to thier POV's as well since LEO's are considered on duty 24/7. Again, is it right or fair? Hell NO, but it IS the way things are, and no amount of whining and discussion is gonna change it. Change can ONLY come by challenging the law in court, and thats an uphill battle.




OUTSTANDING!!!!! At least ya stood up! Glad it worked out!!! I just wish more people would fight rather than roll over and take the path of least resistance (or expense) and just pay the ticket. By paing a ticket for these laws, we are in effect agreeing with the laws.

It's not about fairness. You are entitled to the best defense money can buy. In this country, justice IS for sale.

Oh and one more thing. Custom Tinting, I have no idea who you are, or why you have an ax to grind with me. If you do have one why not try being a man and deal with me in person via phone, email, or in person rather than bore the others here withn your rhetoric? Evidently I DO know you, or vice versa, but this hiding behind your anonymity is getting boring, trite, and childish.

Key, your problem is all yours. Don't start with me again, because I really could'nt care less about this same old sh!t you seem to want to rehash. Let it go. Once and for all.

this is a summons to court for installing !llegal tint.

But was the summons for the !llegal tint as a driver or shop owner. The parethesis just seems like a way for the cop to make it look better for him in giving you the ticket when you got into court. The old 'As an installer, you should have known better" deal.

yea, should have known better, but with every mistake a person tends to learn more. i learn how to deal with laws. and how not to get caught next time.

The NTF Supervisor stated that he had to have a meeting with the local highway patrol officials so that they wouldn't cite his agents. They were getting pulled over and were getting citations for !llegal tint. They agreed that only up to 30% would be allowed on the vehicles. The local PD supervisor instructed his officers to remove all !llegal tint on any of their vehicles after a woman who was cited took photos of their tinted vehicles and presented the photos to the judge. Her case was dismissed. No one is above the law, Officer or not.

No contest plea=guilty plea.
If you had won, you would have gone to trial and been found NOT GUILTY by a Judge or a Jury.
I did not notice what state you are in, but Texas and Arizona treat a no contest the same as a guilty plea.
Maybe it is different where you are ?

This is very true, my vehicle is tinted 5% all the way around INCLUDING 10% in the front windshield, though I have a medical condition for this so it legal all i do is have to show my permit signed by the officials and they do not bother me so its kind of nice, and yes i am VERY sensitive to light.

im sensitive to light too... but 10% on the winshield??? reallly?

i wear sunglasses until its dark out - so i understand... but !?!?!?!?!

The boy in the tinted bubble ? weve all seen the simpsons

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I wonder if they can do that here in australia , prosecute for installing !llegal film ? i know we can open a store soley to sell bongs , crack pipes and other dr*g related items but we cannot sell Dr*gs we cannot buy Dr*gs and we cannot have bongs and dr*g smoking implements but we can sell and buy them they become !llegal once out the door of the shop.

fortunately i nor have any friends ever been ticketed for tint, i have 5% on my rear and extra cab windows on my 1986 toyota pickup and 15% on my windups and no tint on the windscreen technically !llegal (wind ups must be 35%) although tint laws came in in 1994 so if cars older they cant fine you for it

glad to hear you got the upper hand in the end and that is crazy just how much they enforce dark tint and punish who installed it , cant any American own a gun ? surely guns are less safe than some moderately dark tint. tint that is too dark and causes safety risks i understand but it seems like its more so revenue raising than anything else

10% on the whole windshield? , man how do you see @night?

damn bro all my car's and truck's are done like that ,sorry wish i could help

Every shop here but ours will put whatever you want on. It used to p1ss me off but I think Im gonna start doing it too. We arent suppose to have lettering on the windows either. Stupid huh? O and no cool tint graphics. So I say break the dam* laws. Food on the table comes first!

How much buisiness is taken away from you because the other guy will do it !llegal? Is it worth getting a fine? I would be lying if i said Ive always kept it legal. I have been small time automotive and big time res and comm. So now, I wont do it, because there is always a chance of getting caught. In houston, they are strict on tint laws.

So sorry to hear the bad news, wish you the best of luck1!!

haha, i love the (owns a tint business) ... cop thinking he was slick for that extra notation...

Im a florida tinter and had a similar situation but i wouldnt advertise my business on a severely illegal vehicle. I got a ticket for windshield and sides. I started to bs with the cop and told him i was a tinter. He said he doesnt care about the people who put it on. They have to make a living. And he goes after people who seek out a shop to knowingly install illegal tint on their car. So anyway i went to court and told the judge i stripped the film. He dropped the ticket. They have no proof u installed it but the judge isnt stupid. So id go in and be honest and put legal tint on before u go

Wow so what happened to the first guy? and another question what was the % you had on there? here but stupid for having your company on illegal work driving around! also you were warned!

And also look at this shop's webpage. very blatantly about breaking the law and putting on webpage with pics and everything. Like a rapper, rapping about drugs and his guns saying the DEA and FBI can touch me in a song STUPID! http://www.actiontint.com/gallery.html