Bad tint job or?

I had my tint job done on 04 accord cupe by ziebart (local shop) in may and they used a metalic film. At first the guy told me there will be some moisture bubbles and they will go away in few weeks and just give it some time. After about 2-3 weeks all the moisture bubbles have disapeared from side windows and on rear window too like promissed but I still had few long narrow bubbles left around the matrix and some defroster lines. I still gave it some time thinking they will go away, then after about 4-5 weeks I took it back and the guy looked at it and said to give it another few weeks and he thinks they are still moisture bubbles. So then I went on vacation for a month when I came back I still had those big bubbles left on my rear window. I took the car today to the shop and the actual guy who installs tints took a look at it and said give me few minutes with my tools and I will see if I can push them out. Then he came back and really all the big bubbles were completely gone. Now my matrix looks like crap still though. Its all white and looks like film is berely sticking to it and around defroster lines I still have some air gap, and film is not completely stuck onto each line. The guy said I should turn on my defroster every morning and it should get rid of that but do I still believe the guy? Its been almost 3 months not that tint job was done. I will post some photos to show you how it looks. Let me know what you think.
PS The good thing is I have life time warranty on the tint job.

I used to put down Ziefart due to the bad jobs I've seen come out of different chains in different cities, but in reality its the "a restaurant is only as good as it's cook" scenario..tint shops are no different be it chain or independent. It just so happens that many tinters get their "start" in the business by training with chains. The bad ones tent to get fired , the good ones tent to move onward and upward after "learning" on your car.

Did this happen to you ? who knows

the matrix never really stick well, there are different methods we use to make them a little more uniform, but rarely do you get a really good look on those. You can ask that he either cut it and vinyl it or get some exterior vinyl and cover them up. As far of the rest of it goes, the film should be dry especially after 3 months. Just dont be rude when you go to the shop. You'll get a lot farther being corteous

Go back and ask for it to be re-done. If there are airgaps on the defroster lines, they are never going to go away after 3 months drying time. Let the manager know you are dissatisfied with the quality of the work in a calm manner and ask for replacement. This film will possibly lift off if there are airgaps over time, since oisture could get into it. Don't let them bully you or give you the runaround. Most reputable shops would have replaced it by now.

i agree, it has to be redone asap. It`s not going to go away. some shops say that cause they don`t kno what they r doin.

I just had a car done there today and I tell you the @#$## job I have ever seen. They have redone the windows 3 times in the same day. & I'm going back tomorrow...Gaps way to big. crap isn't smooth on the edges. I do have to say they keep on trying. I guess they are learning on my 08 Altima.

Find another make of car with tint and take a picture. If it has no gaps, well, how can they argue?

Thats funny, I never made that post. Guess I am done posting on this site. Will continue to visit, though. Nice!!!

WTF are you talking about? Both of your posts have the exact same IP, so if you didn't post it, someone using your computer did.

O.K. that wasn't me either. Somebody at my place is messing with me. Sorry about that gentlemen. Have a great day!

dot matrix tends to always look whitish. I know alot of guys are tinting over the 4 to 6 inch dot areas at the top and glueing it.
I hope like hel I dont have to remove any of those when the film goes bad. I get enough of that crap as it is. As far as the water blisters-thats what there called- Parking your car in the sun would have reduced the dry out time. i agree to be polite. You should try to tint a window some time.

I was going to be quite untill you made that last statement..you should try to tint a window....
thats like a crappy roofer telling the home owner he should roof his own house...
people bring the cars to legitamite tint shops because where suposed know what where doing
its not the customers fault that they put a newbie or whom ever on there car all they know or all they should know is they drop off the car and when they pick it up it should be as close to perfect as we can get it. if they took it to joe blows house then they get what they get bottom line the car should have never left in that shape. we real tinter know the diffrance between what will dry out and what we screwed up on.

and your the only person I know that has ever tinted a rock...(food for thought pyramids dont have glass windows)

Whatever you jerk. You have never heard walk a mile in there shoes? People like you that encorage bad mouthing other shops make me sick! I wish the guy who tinted that car had a voice on the matter. I will buy him a Plane ticket to fly to you and let you explain to his face the crap your selling.

wow ....... you realy think you can tint a rock........%&$# ill fly to where you are to see this %&$# you do get all the bubbles out dont you cause if you leave bubbles I ant coming.
and just so you know in the past eight years I have had three people come back two where for broken windows that need to be retinted and one where when I tinted it the glass moved leaving a small light gap other then that. we dont have returns so blah blah blah..... rock tinter

i did notice your age and years exp. your 36 and you been tinting for 20 years so you where in a shop tinting at 16.......hell if i wanted to say when i first tried tinting it was when i was 10 years old I was no tinter though...
I have been professional tinter for 16 years but a a true professional the last 9 years.. I have owned and opp. my shop for the past 8 years....see I was taught by one of the masters of tint (Billy Wheeler) and the one thing he taught me was never let a job leave if its not right no matter what. and what I see when I hear you and your rock tinting skills is you a a true ti""""" hack

Easy big fella.

sorry my bad.... and I know better too ..... I remember now take to the foobar.. would you beam us to the foobar

rule #1 in any management classes is never bad mouth someone else to make yourself look better as my old pappy said ( win a agument to lose a sale) also be werry the tintshop your bad mouthing my be your future boss . i another word dont burn your bridge's. beside that is a extra $125 film removal plus new tint ,and after im done with there work i have a customer for life

really clear silicon bead at the dot or blue elmers glue ,like other great tint shop i dont have to worry about huper goin bad ,and a little detail's like dot matrix sticking and uniform edge's is what sep. my shop from the other's in the north fl area f.y.i. shawn page is my yoda

look for one I never bad mouth a tint shop!! but now Ill say this if you let a car leave your shop looking like then you yes you are the hack shop we talk about. dose any real shop owner want to argue that. then take it to the foo bar.

What does the hat logo stand for rock basher? Can't figure that one out.It is like sittin lookin at some f***ed up license plate.

I live in an area where there are a lot of country boys and girls. it is a P and a T stands for Pro Tint
glad you noticed means it worked it got you to ask about it....its about being noticed thats where trends are started..kinda like the stupid songs on tv there corny but they stick in you head

I black the top in with vinyl when its possible. Otherwise I tint over the dots. I have never had a comeback but I know in time. In Time-its plastic- may take 10 years- or so- It has to be scraped off. if some nuckle head cleans his windows with armor all- o they do- even quicker. I had to retint the back glass of a 05 vette a couple weeks ago that was tinted by a real pro. The guy said he had it done in Atlanta. It was one piece no tiny creases, no trash, looked perfect. I was impressed at the quality of the work. It was fantastic. BUT. He removed the shocks and latch- tinted it- and clamped the brackets down on the tint. I was sick to have to redo a great job. BUT he thought he knew everything. I believe you can learn something everyday. Even from here. And to that tint guy who thinks I tint rocks- No friend - some of the skills you use came from me. I trained tinters when i was 16. Where do you think the reverse roll came from?

Where do you think the reverse roll came from?
i hope your not claiming that ! (it was first called a california roll back in the late 70 at least that what im told by one of the great's)

I don't doubt it was done then. It is similar to an old lamination process done very long ago. We did start doing that in our shop in the 80's and had never seen or heard of it before. Our crews went to several trade evnts and even Our film company had never seen what we were doing. So Its all about the He said She said Bullsh(t. Since you know alot about it is it true a guy from Texas came up with Heat shrinking?

not really sure about that intresting quetion though .do u shrink the standard dry way or do u use the trapped heat under the film method?

$125.00 plus new tint... it's comes down to economics for the most of us who are past the 3 day seminars.

Don't even get me Started on Ziebart

They wanted $300 to do the back window on a 90 Regel 2 door and said all the defrost lines have to be cut around,Scraped etc.

Guy was talking out of his azz

But $300

I can buy how many Boxes of llmur Tint for that

Thats one incounter I will never forget

I looked over a ziebart car yesterday and it looked damn near perfect. Trust me i walked around it with my nose on the window looking for stuff. The only thing i found were rough edges where they tucked in the sides of roll ups. I'm sure custy paid a lot more than i would charge. and I got a good feeling they didn't use color stable tint where I almost always have.

The job comes out as a result of the installer, not the shop.

wow..this has been going on since july...