1991 Camaro
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coolzone
Oct 13 2008, 11:46 AM
Hey all,
I took on a project to see if I am ready or able to do it yet. It is an R & R of a, yep you guessed it 1991 Camaro. Well the removal went very well. Removal of purple hazy film is complete. I attempted to shrink the backglass. I anchored across the middle and started attempting the mdog soap method. The shrink did not go well. I have read on here about not shrinking the camaro. Seems to me one would have to but this is my first camaro. Anyway any advice on how you do a successful backglass of this car. The owner has no idea if it is factory glass or not. Thanks all.
tintmanlibby
Oct 13 2008, 11:49 AM
QUOTE (coolzone @ Oct 13 2008, 12:46 PM) [*]647754[/*] Hey all, I took on a project to see if I am ready or able to do it yet. It is an R & R of a, yep you guessed it 1991 Camaro. Well the removal went very well. Removal of purple hazy film is complete.  . I . The shrink did not go well. I have read on here about not shrinking the camaro. Seems to me one would have to but this is my first camaro. Anyway any advice on how you do a successful backglass of this car. The owner has no idea if it is factory glass or not. Thanks all. 
TintWizard
Oct 13 2008, 01:43 PM
It's not a bad shrink for 1 piece..if your not comfortable doing it in 1 piece..use 2 pulls of a 20" roll splicing on the 7th heater wire. Make sure to cut the sides MUCH shorter or you'll get contamination from the heater wire bars.
maddtinter
Oct 13 2008, 01:51 PM
QUOTE (coolzone @ Oct 13 2008, 11:46 AM) [*]647754[/*] Hey all,
I took on a project to see if I am ready or able to do it yet. It is an R & R of a, yep you guessed it 1991 Camaro. Well the removal went very well. Removal of purple hazy film is complete. I attempted to shrink the backglass. I anchored across the middle and started attempting the mdog soap method. The shrink did not go well. I have read on here about not shrinking the camaro. Seems to me one would have to but this is my first camaro. Anyway any advice on how you do a successful backglass of this car. The owner has no idea if it is factory glass or not. Thanks all. Does it have defroster or not?
coolzone
Oct 13 2008, 04:31 PM
thanks for the replies so far. There are no defrost lines on the glass at all. I will give shrinking it in one piece another attempt this evening. Would it be better to put the anchor higher or lower on the glass? I started my shrink in the lower middle and worked my way out. Seemed to go fine so started the top in the middle outward but the film started giving me smiley faces and would not lay down like I am used to seeing. Anyway, I am just trying to expand my abilities here. Doing well with most cars. Thought I would try something I had not done before when given the chance. I appreciate everyone's help. thanks
SIR TINTSALOT
Oct 13 2008, 05:08 PM
I wouldn't recommend dry shrinking that car. I'd wet shrink it
nc_wlch
Oct 13 2008, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (SIR TINTSALOT @ Oct 13 2008, 07:08 PM) [*]647823[/*] I wouldn't recommend dry shrinking that car. I'd wet shrink it def wet. i usually use a high anchor and not shrink the bottom at all, just sort of stretch it as i squeegee it out. and make sure to cut the sides pretty short like the others have said.
robg
Oct 13 2008, 06:45 PM
that BG doesnt even require shrinking to apply in one pc. the bottom corners may try to lift early in the install but that window can be tinted without heat, just a little patience.
maddtinter
Oct 13 2008, 06:51 PM
Definetly a one piece application.You can shrink the top dry first,then wet the window.Try to shrink the bottom fingers in the center area.If you can get all but bottom corners to lay down on the outside you are good to go.When you are installing the film work the bottom corners out last.You will need a turbo blade wide enough to move all film at once into the bottom corners.
lilDetails
Oct 13 2008, 08:15 PM
if you do any shrinking with a dry tech then you will be shrinking more with the wet check than you would if you just do a wet shrink in the first place. Just put it on wet and lay it out. The most you should have on that window is 4 smaller fingers at the top......
try it you or you will never believe it....
wet shrink the newer camaros too just have a "pocket" where the dove tail rolls out.
Beeline
Oct 14 2008, 06:31 AM
anchor side to side a little more than half way up the window. wet shrink will basically turn into soap method because the film is going to lift in the middle. go nice and slow and stretch.
lilDetails
Oct 14 2008, 06:51 AM
QUOTE (Beeline @ Oct 14 2008, 08:31 AM) [*]647898[/*] anchor side to side a little more than half way up the window. wet shrink will basically turn into soap method because the film is going to lift in the middle. go nice and slow and stretch. not sure what Camaro you are speaking of Beeline, but all the 91ish ones I have ever had my hands on will lay down almost completely with just a wet lay on the outside. There might be 4 fingers at the top that will be 3/4" wide and 1/2" tall at the MOST. If you are speaking of the next gen with the dove tail then it is different, but that is not the topic of this thread...
RED
Oct 14 2008, 08:19 AM
QUOTE (robg @ Oct 13 2008, 07:45 PM) [*]647836[/*] that BG doesnt even require shrinking to apply in one pc. the bottom corners may try to lift early in the install but that window can be tinted without heat, just a little patience.  bingo, 15 min back glass no shrinking. stretch the bottom corners in first and the rest is cake
Beeline
Oct 14 2008, 08:51 AM
I was wrong on the years of the cars. I was thinking of the bubble back window.
hardcardretard
Oct 14 2008, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (RED @ Oct 14 2008, 08:19 AM) [*]647915[/*] QUOTE (robg @ Oct 13 2008, 07:45 PM) [*]647836[/*] that BG doesnt even require shrinking to apply in one pc. the bottom corners may try to lift early in the install but that window can be tinted without heat, just a little patience.  bingo, 15 min back glass no shrinking. stretch the bottom corners in first and the rest is cake Right on RED!
coolzone
Oct 14 2008, 10:49 AM
I will give the wet shrink a try and see how that goes. I did not try last night like I thought I would. I will let you know what i have done right or not done right. Hopefully with the insight I have received so far that all will go well.
Thank you much!!!
coolzone
Oct 15 2008, 08:29 AM
Well I gave wet shrinking a try last evening (twice). The first went I will say OK. seemed to do well. My problem was the film was not wanting to stick once applying. It did not smooth out well and I creased a couple of spots down by each lower corner. Overall, it looked like a hackshop did it. So I pulled it off. My second attempt I tried moving the film around before shrinking and the sides seemed like they were about right without shrinking but instead of a few fingers here at there in the middle there was a huge pocket. Well I tried to make this pocket into fingers and shrink but did not have any good luck with that at all. I will be very glad once I get this window figured out. It feels like my very first window ever. Kicking my butt right now. Thank you for the helpful replies. If there is any more insight any of you can think of let me know. Otherwise, it seems like I just need to get film on the glass and work it out. I will say this, my customer is very pleased with the old film off. She can now see out all of her windows. Thankfully is very patient with me on this learning process.
MsMarco
Oct 15 2008, 11:26 AM
That was my first car, start to finish with no help. I snuck it while Marco was at a dealer to see if I could do it  so I don't remember much of how I did it but I know it took a lot of stretching and I did shrink it dry then wet checked.
coolzone
Oct 15 2008, 02:57 PM
hmmm good pix. looks like it may have defrost lines on the one you did. I wonder since mine doesn't if it means it is aftermarket. In either case I will get it figured out but I am not used to a BG taking more than one attempt anymore. However, I haven't taken on anything I didn't feel comfortable doing. I will get it, especially with the help from all of the good folks here. I dont know if I will have a shot at it again tonight or not but hopefully. I can always listen to the debates instead of watching them if I do get to try again.
coolzone
Oct 31 2008, 10:00 PM
OK I finally had another chance at it tonight. Halloween of all nights and I tried twice. Kicked me in the butt again. I even tried my 2nd attempt tonite with no heat. It was my closest at almost getting the film on the vehicle. Wish I had a beer tonight. I think this is one window I will never forget. If I have to use a whole roll of film. Heck, I am 4 pulls in already. Thank goodness this is someone who is patient with me. Sorry just venting over a window that one day I will look back and laugh at. Any other advice that I may try???? Thanks all
I-tinted-the-pyramids
Nov 7 2008, 08:36 AM
QUOTE (robg @ Oct 13 2008, 07:45 PM) [*]647836[/*] that BG doesnt even require shrinking to apply in one pc. the bottom corners may try to lift early in the install but that window can be tinted without heat, just a little patience. I have tinted hundreds of those back in thelate 80s early 90s. NO heat shrink needed. I would remove the plastic panel at the bottom to keep trash out. I used alot of soap and pushed out the air with my hands first. PS i just read that post and remembered i have seen an aftermarket glass on that car that was shaped different. The glass with defroster came from factory- did alot with them the same way- good luck!
Kokomo Tint and Dent
Nov 7 2008, 09:05 AM
I couldn't get the matrix to stick at all, it kept lifting. glue it?
Tint Artist
Nov 7 2008, 10:00 AM
That year model there are lines at the top not dot matrix and they tend to peel sometimes so i use steelwool and basicly sand the lines so the film adheres better! And i agree that that car hardly needs any shrinking (maybe alittle at the top and go for it) I'll take one latch off , blue max it , put the latch back on then do the other side! Get's it out of my way and makes it easier to squeegee!
coolzone
Nov 7 2008, 11:18 AM
No defrost lines so probably after market but it does have lines across the top instead of matrix. Will hopefully be giving it another shot this weekend. Maybe I will just try shrinking closer to the top as suggested. I know I came the closest to getting the film on when I did not shrink at all. Thanks all, hopefully Saturday evening will be another shot at it.
coolzone
Nov 22 2008, 09:05 AM
Hey all thanks for the help. I did not want to but I ended up doing the BG in 2 pieces. It worked well, not how I wanted it but at least there is tint around the whole car. I am going to try this window again. Not sure when though. Thanks for those that helped me out on this project.
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