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tint_audiopros
Can I get a few tips on this back glass, never done one looks like fun though. Im thinkin dry & lay the sides down wet ? Any thoughts ?






tintgod
here is a tip.. get someone else to do it.. spit.gif dunno.gif


ok...but seriously...looks like the top of the window is going to be the hardest part..i would seriously consider getting someone out to remove the window..it will make it easier to shrink...that is the best tip i can give you being that i have never tinted one.
tintgod
oh..and another tip..charge more next time...what ever you are charging them..it isnt enough.
micro-edge
OMG Fbigeyes.gif Hope it's easier than it looks, good luck Ninja-Invisible.gif
tint_audiopros
lol2.gif come on guys, whatcha thinkin dry & lay the sides down ?
maddtinter
I did one less than 6 months ago.Here is what i did.Right were the window curves at the top(lower part of curve) i ran seam to the bottom about 3 inches in from the side corner.I think my side pieces were about 16 inches wide then one large center piece.Yah, it took 3 pieces.Install the large piece first then either side.I tried to get it one piece but I ran into problems on the sides.When I layed the film on the outside it looked like one piece would work,but it didn't.I use Llumar ATR film.It did take about 10 hours from first attempt to completion.
tint_audiopros
Did it just as planned its all shrunk, ready for install. I'm crossing my fingers krazy.gif
maddtinter
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 10:41 AM) [*]653406[/*]
Did it just as planned its all shrunk, ready for install. I'm crossing my fingers krazy.gif

What film?
blazincaraudio
QUOTE (tintgod @ Nov 17 2008, 09:20 AM) [*]653357[/*]
oh..and another tip..charge more next time...what ever you are charging them..it isnt enough.



lol2.gif thumb.gif Good luck man. Love to see the pics after its done
maddtinter
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:40 AM) [*]653403[/*]
I did one less than 6 months ago.Here is what i did.Right were the window curves at the top(lower part of curve) i ran seam to the bottom about 3 inches in from the side corner.I think my side pieces were about 16 inches wide then one large center piece.Yah, it took 3 pieces.Install the large piece first then either side.I tried to get it one piece but I ran into problems on the sides.When I layed the film on the outside it looked like one piece would work,but it didn't.I use Llumar ATR film.It did take about 10 hours from first attempt to completion.
I was able to get the one piece install about 85% then it creased.The sides would not form to the curve towards the front of the car.
maddtinter
As I looked at the pic showing the side of the car my seams were near the same height as the chrome trim at the top of the door.
filmslayer
Better you than me thumb.gif it will make for a cleaner,better install if it is removed ...The one I did was out and I wet shrank it...
maddtinter
QUOTE (filmslayer @ Nov 17 2008, 12:16 PM) [*]653421[/*]
Better you than me thumb.gif it will make for a cleaner,better install if it is removed ...The one I did was out and I wet shrank it...

The one i worked on the gasket was original.The car had been rescued from a ranch.It was not worth trying to replace the gasket.If the car was in better condition the customer was going to replace the gasket but he didn't.He had replaced the rear carpet kit 3 times in 10 years he was tired of the carpet fading.
tint_audiopros
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:42 AM) [*]653407[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 10:41 AM) [*]653406[/*]
Did it just as planned its all shrunk, ready for install. I'm crossing my fingers krazy.gif

What film?


qdp-5

QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:45 AM) [*]653410[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:40 AM) [*]653403[/*]
I did one less than 6 months ago.Here is what i did.Right were the window curves at the top(lower part of curve) i ran seam to the bottom about 3 inches in from the side corner.I think my side pieces were about 16 inches wide then one large center piece.Yah, it took 3 pieces.Install the large piece first then either side.I tried to get it one piece but I ran into problems on the sides.When I layed the film on the outside it looked like one piece would work,but it didn't.I use Llumar ATR film.It did take about 10 hours from first attempt to completion.
I was able to get the one piece install about 85% then it creased.The sides would not form to the curve towards the front of the car.


bingo actually got atleast 90% layed down even one whole side and top corner, the other side , the film was so stressed it wouldn't go creased on me. Im tinting all other side windows then telling customer only way is to have it removed dunno.gif im whooped


QUOTE (filmslayer @ Nov 17 2008, 11:16 AM) [*]653421[/*]
Better you than me thumb.gif it will make for a cleaner,better install if it is removed ...The one I did was out and I wet shrank it...


thats my guess
maddtinter
I hope you find the reply to your question helpful.As I said I spent WAY TOO LONG on that window.My ego was telling me not to give up.When I first started tinting over 20 years ago I learned how to overlap then butt seam.Some late model Benz SEL models I would tint with 1 large center and 2 sides doing an overlap seam.Back then either the shrinking technique was not known or I was not taught how to do it.
tintgod
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 05:34 PM) [*]653447[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:42 AM) [*]653407[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 10:41 AM) [*]653406[/*]
Did it just as planned its all shrunk, ready for install. I'm crossing my fingers krazy.gif

What film?


qdp-5

QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:45 AM) [*]653410[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:40 AM) [*]653403[/*]
I did one less than 6 months ago.Here is what i did.Right were the window curves at the top(lower part of curve) i ran seam to the bottom about 3 inches in from the side corner.I think my side pieces were about 16 inches wide then one large center piece.Yah, it took 3 pieces.Install the large piece first then either side.I tried to get it one piece but I ran into problems on the sides.When I layed the film on the outside it looked like one piece would work,but it didn't.I use Llumar ATR film.It did take about 10 hours from first attempt to completion.
I was able to get the one piece install about 85% then it creased.The sides would not form to the curve towards the front of the car.


bingo actually got atleast 90% layed down even one whole side and top corner, the other side , the film was so stressed it wouldn't go creased on me. Im tinting all other side windows then telling customer only way is to have it removed dunno.gif im whooped


QUOTE (filmslayer @ Nov 17 2008, 11:16 AM) [*]653421[/*]
Better you than me thumb.gif it will make for a cleaner,better install if it is removed ...The one I did was out and I wet shrank it...


thats my guess

i told you to have it removed....but i do give you props for trying it...i would have done the same. thumb.gif
maddtinter
QUOTE (tintgod @ Nov 17 2008, 08:48 PM) [*]653493[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 05:34 PM) [*]653447[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:42 AM) [*]653407[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 10:41 AM) [*]653406[/*]
Did it just as planned its all shrunk, ready for install. I'm crossing my fingers krazy.gif

What film?


qdp-5

QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:45 AM) [*]653410[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:40 AM) [*]653403[/*]
I did one less than 6 months ago.Here is what i did.Right were the window curves at the top(lower part of curve) i ran seam to the bottom about 3 inches in from the side corner.I think my side pieces were about 16 inches wide then one large center piece.Yah, it took 3 pieces.Install the large piece first then either side.I tried to get it one piece but I ran into problems on the sides.When I layed the film on the outside it looked like one piece would work,but it didn't.I use Llumar ATR film.It did take about 10 hours from first attempt to completion.
I was able to get the one piece install about 85% then it creased.The sides would not form to the curve towards the front of the car.


bingo actually got atleast 90% layed down even one whole side and top corner, the other side , the film was so stressed it wouldn't go creased on me. Im tinting all other side windows then telling customer only way is to have it removed dunno.gif im whooped


QUOTE (filmslayer @ Nov 17 2008, 11:16 AM) [*]653421[/*]
Better you than me thumb.gif it will make for a cleaner,better install if it is removed ...The one I did was out and I wet shrank it...


thats my guess

i told you to have it removed....but i do give you props for trying it...i would have done the same. thumb.gif
The problem with removing that b/g are not worth doing it.Tearing the gasket,breaking the window,scratching the car,etc.IMO.
tintgod
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 18 2008, 12:02 AM) [*]653496[/*]
QUOTE (tintgod @ Nov 17 2008, 08:48 PM) [*]653493[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 05:34 PM) [*]653447[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:42 AM) [*]653407[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 10:41 AM) [*]653406[/*]
Did it just as planned its all shrunk, ready for install. I'm crossing my fingers krazy.gif

What film?


qdp-5

QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:45 AM) [*]653410[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:40 AM) [*]653403[/*]
I did one less than 6 months ago.Here is what i did.Right were the window curves at the top(lower part of curve) i ran seam to the bottom about 3 inches in from the side corner.I think my side pieces were about 16 inches wide then one large center piece.Yah, it took 3 pieces.Install the large piece first then either side.I tried to get it one piece but I ran into problems on the sides.When I layed the film on the outside it looked like one piece would work,but it didn't.I use Llumar ATR film.It did take about 10 hours from first attempt to completion.
I was able to get the one piece install about 85% then it creased.The sides would not form to the curve towards the front of the car.


bingo actually got atleast 90% layed down even one whole side and top corner, the other side , the film was so stressed it wouldn't go creased on me. Im tinting all other side windows then telling customer only way is to have it removed dunno.gif im whooped


QUOTE (filmslayer @ Nov 17 2008, 11:16 AM) [*]653421[/*]
Better you than me thumb.gif it will make for a cleaner,better install if it is removed ...The one I did was out and I wet shrank it...


thats my guess

i told you to have it removed....but i do give you props for trying it...i would have done the same. thumb.gif
The problem with removing that b/g are not worth doing it.Tearing the gasket,breaking the window,scratching the car,etc.IMO.

that is why you have a professional do it..or have the customer set it up with a professional glass installer/remover do it...that way...if anything goes wrong..it is on them and not you.
maddtinter
QUOTE (tintgod @ Nov 17 2008, 10:16 PM) [*]653504[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 18 2008, 12:02 AM) [*]653496[/*]
QUOTE (tintgod @ Nov 17 2008, 08:48 PM) [*]653493[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 05:34 PM) [*]653447[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:42 AM) [*]653407[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Nov 17 2008, 10:41 AM) [*]653406[/*]
Did it just as planned its all shrunk, ready for install. I'm crossing my fingers krazy.gif

What film?


qdp-5

QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:45 AM) [*]653410[/*]
QUOTE (maddtinter @ Nov 17 2008, 10:40 AM) [*]653403[/*]
I did one less than 6 months ago.Here is what i did.Right were the window curves at the top(lower part of curve) i ran seam to the bottom about 3 inches in from the side corner.I think my side pieces were about 16 inches wide then one large center piece.Yah, it took 3 pieces.Install the large piece first then either side.I tried to get it one piece but I ran into problems on the sides.When I layed the film on the outside it looked like one piece would work,but it didn't.I use Llumar ATR film.It did take about 10 hours from first attempt to completion.
I was able to get the one piece install about 85% then it creased.The sides would not form to the curve towards the front of the car.


bingo actually got atleast 90% layed down even one whole side and top corner, the other side , the film was so stressed it wouldn't go creased on me. Im tinting all other side windows then telling customer only way is to have it removed dunno.gif im whooped


QUOTE (filmslayer @ Nov 17 2008, 11:16 AM) [*]653421[/*]
Better you than me thumb.gif it will make for a cleaner,better install if it is removed ...The one I did was out and I wet shrank it...


thats my guess

i told you to have it removed....but i do give you props for trying it...i would have done the same. thumb.gif
The problem with removing that b/g are not worth doing it.Tearing the gasket,breaking the window,scratching the car,etc.IMO.

that is why you have a professional do it..or have the customer set it up with a professional glass installer/remover do it...that way...if anything goes wrong..it is on them and not you.
Even the very best glass shop wouldn't want to take on the liability.I have worked with a shop that specializes in complete restorations.Unless they have an OEM gasket they simply will not touch it.I will look for my pic of the one I did.
tint_audiopros
thanks tg and everyone else for the tips & moral support. I did in fact get this car done, I did take maddtinters advice (thankyou) & did the vertical seams after trying to one piece twice wasting atlease 12' of film & the customer was actually extremely happy therefore so was I ! Will post pics tomorrow.


tint_audiopros
........well tomorrow is finally here, & heres the pictures Flaugh.gif




maddtinter
Way to go dude!
tint_audiopros
thanks again madd beer.gif
alberts316
Nice Job for a nice car






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