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TintJunkie
Nov 17 2008, 12:18 PM
I tried this today and it worked!!
I use a Roland Camm-1Pro plotter. I replace the teflon strip every 3-4 weeks. It was looking pretty bad today, so I decided to try and get the groove out of it by sanding it. I used some light sandpaper and rubbed over the strip until the groove disappeared. It looks like a new strip. I bet I can get 2-3 months out of this strip by sanding it.
mortist
Nov 19 2008, 10:08 AM
If you are going through teflon strips that fast then your blade depth and pressure are not setup properly. In the last 5 years I have only changed the teflon strip half a dozen times.
What kind of film are you cutting and how much volume are you doing?
TintJunkie
Nov 19 2008, 11:13 AM
(mortist @ Nov 19 2008, 12:08 PM) [*]653707[/*] If you are going through teflon strips that fast then your blade depth and pressure are not setup properly. In the last 5 years I have only changed the teflon strip half a dozen times.
What kind of film are you cutting and how much volume are you doing? Madico CH 35/20. I do about 175-200 cars a month. I have the pressure at 130, and you can't even feel the blade coming out of the holder. I have tried many different ways to set it up but this way is the only way it will cut best. I can certainly use the strip longer by adjusting, but the strip less than $5. Maybe our strips are different?? Roland Camm-1pro
mortist
Nov 19 2008, 02:19 PM
We cut LLumar ATC, ATX, ATR, and some Formula One; for the LLumar I usually have the pressure set around 150-160 and the Formula One is around 130. I have the blade setup in a similar way, with it barely sticking out. We might do a little less volume than you, probably 50-100 sedans and 100-150 truck tints in a busy month.
I know that the first few weeks of a new blade and new teflon strip can be a little bit troublesome, but I do adjust the pressure up and pull the blade a little further out if it starts to skip spots. After that it seems to cut fine for several months. I just hate trying to clean all the glue out of the channel so the new strip will lay perfectly flat!
TintJunkie
Nov 19 2008, 07:00 PM
Yeah, the glue sucks. Time consuming. You know, everyday I get to work, I do test cuts. And sometimes it's perfect, like the day before, but a lot of times I have to re-adjust. I decided today to replace the sanded teflon strip with a new one, and a new blade. I cut 3 patterns for a Sentra, after config, and they weeded like butter. Then I cut 3 Maximas, 2 hours later, with no adjustments, and had to weed using my olfa. You know, most days, I love the plotter. Others, like today, I hated it. I had 3 patterns that sucked azz today.
I am new to the plotter scene. I have only used one for 6 months. Any pointers would be appreciated. I always thought, like others here, I was faster than a plotter. After using one, I know I was fooling myself.
mortist
Nov 20 2008, 05:58 AM
One thing that was screwing my patterns for along time was the blade holder, is your blade holder black plastic and cheap looking? Or is it a newer solid metal design?
My plastic blade holder was worn out and after I replaced it with the metal one, perfect cuts. It also helps to pull the blade out every couple of patterns and blow all the dust out of it, also once a month pull the blade out and put just a LITTLE drop of oil inside the blade holder. Also watch what speed you have it set at, I never do anything more than 30-50 on the speed.
When used properly, the plotter can save you alot of time. It works really well for my application because I am tinting the same model of cars all day long, so I can have 5-10 full cars ready to install.
We have recently started using the same plotter for cutting vinyl stickers, which is another pretty cool benefit!
TintJunkie
Nov 20 2008, 06:07 AM
You know what, I never thought about the cut speed. I think its set at 25cm/s, it says upspeed. I guess thats the speed it cuts right. I have the plastic holder. Will it really make a difference with the metal one?
It saves me a ton of time also. Many people here don't like them, and swear they can cut faster. I posted a challege for those who tink they can. I told them to come to me and we will race. If I lose, I will pay $100. Ive had no takers.
mortist
Nov 20 2008, 06:44 AM
I would go ahead and order a new blade holder, the metal one has been redesigned. What happens is the bearings inside the holder will wear out and cause the blade to get sloppy when making cuts. I was having similar problems to what you are describing last year, before I replaced the blade holder. I think its worth it!
I've read alot of the flame wars on plotters and I could really care less what everyone else is saying, at the end of the week I take home a paycheck just like they do so does it really matter?? I never hand cut anything and I can have a four door car done in around 45-60 minutes, I have zero come backs and I leave a micro edge on every door.
If the customer is happy, who cares how the tint got put on the glass???
Brandon
mortist
Nov 20 2008, 06:46 AM
Oh-
I think there are two settings for speed, the upspeed in the menu and the speed button on the main keypad. I think I have both of mine set to 30 right now, I have done as fast as 55 on both but it gets a little scary and makes it very easy to crease the film and cause bad cut quality.
tint_audiopros
Nov 21 2008, 11:41 PM
 wow you guys tint lots of vehicles
TintJunkie
Nov 23 2008, 08:24 AM
(tint_audiopros @ Nov 22 2008, 02:41 AM) [*]654148[/*]  wow you guys tint lots of vehicles thats the only way to make money with automotive. I like comm/res money better. Less work, lots of money.
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