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ClassOnGlass
i love the new true black line from express window films its a 1.5 mill awesome color extruded poly film no color pushing what so ever it shrinks awesome and installs awesome the price is awesome as well please call howard to try this film out you will not be sorry big joe class on glass 1800filmnow twocents.gif
OCC
pm me with prices
shwusyrtnts
They have a price list on there site.
rondy_
hey class!

how well does it match factory privacy glass???

I get the hp charcoal film from express and the color is beautiful. the true smoke is really good but it has a very slightly blue hue. can you describe the color of the true black???
mates
does express have a distributor in australia at all ? if not they should , their pricing seems very competitive , id be keen to try it if i could get it out here.
ClassOnGlass
THE MATCH TO FACTORY IS ALOT BETTER THAN THE TRUE SMOKE THE COLOR IS AWESOME AND IT IS THE FIRST IMPORTED FILM I KNOW OF TO BE EXTRUDED WITH NO COLOR PUSHING AND IT FEELS AND WORKS LIKE TOP BRAND FILMS WE ARE USE TO
thatsnappyguy
im sure it is a top line film that we already use...usually thats the case
ClassOnGlass
no snap howard only uses his own films
thatsnappyguy
ima have to check that out for myself...actually i cant remember if i did or not. midas, express, value, theres too many to remember nowadays.
ClassOnGlass
snap you wont be sorry i love it
Tintskillz
called for samples today thumb.gif
ClassOnGlass
post your results and thoughts thumb.gif
window_tintee
Is that the Black Charcoal? I used some film from them a few years ago called that. Matched factory glass perfectly
ClassOnGlass
color could be close but this quality is awesome
jttint1
just learned that if it's not in a black GLOBAL box ,then its some korean film.Is that true? dunno.gif
Tintskillz
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Jan 6 2009, 06:24 PM) [*]660110[/*]
post your results and thoughts thumb.gif


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TINT



Tintskillz
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Jan 6 2009, 06:24 PM) [*]660110[/*]
post your results and thoughts thumb.gif



Still no samples dunno.gif
TINT
express window films always gives good service, just give them a holler back im sure they'll hook u up. thumb.gif
prodigy
QUOTE (TINT @ Jan 15 2009, 06:05 PM) [*]662066[/*]
express window films always gives good service, just give them a holler back im sure they'll hook u up. thumb.gif

What shades were used in those pics?
Jarrett
I'm thinking about buying some of that true black. I'm just not sure what size roll(s) I wanna try.
What do you mean the film is closer to a factory match?
parfait2882
i just got some in and we like it
prodigy
Do you guys have any trouble shrinking this film? I would love to use it just keep getting peanuts trie low heat but wouldnt hardley shrink film.
miner-dma
just used some true black .. it works great...
wetintcars.com
QUOTE (prodigy @ Apr 1 2009, 11:27 AM) [*]677802[/*]
Do you guys have any trouble shrinking this film? I would love to use it just keep getting peanuts trie low heat but wouldnt hardley shrink film.


We have had this problem too. Also, it seems that the doors keep getting fingers at the bottom too. I love the look, feel, and esp. the price. But I can't handle peanuts/maggots/whatever they are called on the defrost lines and the fingers.

Howard is still amazing and the service was still great though. bananarock.gif
miner-dma
I havent had any problems with it .. shrinks good and no fingers..
clear max
I just order some this week. I can't wait to try it this weekend.
miner-dma
i think you will like it .. it comes with a good warranty i just wonder how color stable it is....
TINT
it lacks adhesive, takes forever to stick. we've had returns on this film already. good thing express is a good company to work with, they will stand behind they're product, but from an installer side, its not worth the hassle.
TTS
QUOTE (miner-dma @ Apr 16 2009, 02:02 PM) [*]680815[/*]
i think you will like it .. it comes with a good warranty i just wonder how color stable it is....


Call them and ask how color stable it is.... I did... beer.gif
clear max
QUOTE (fphillips @ Apr 16 2009, 02:26 PM) [*]680792[/*]
I just order some this week. I can't wait to try it this weekend.



I was really pleased with the film. It shrunk well for me. And its was easy to work with. thumb.gif
Old Dude
QUOTE (wetintcars.com @ Apr 16 2009, 05:54 AM) [*]680683[/*]
QUOTE (prodigy @ Apr 1 2009, 11:27 AM) [*]677802[/*]
Do you guys have any trouble shrinking this film? I would love to use it just keep getting peanuts trie low heat but wouldnt hardley shrink film.


We have had this problem too. Also, it seems that the doors keep getting fingers at the bottom too. I love the look, feel, and esp. the price. But I can't handle peanuts/maggots/whatever they are called on the defrost lines and the fingers.

Howard is still amazing and the service was still great though. bananarock.gif

I'll second that! The few applications I've had has been on trucks. Side windows I have to let dry a bit then card the bottom edge because of "wanna be" fingers on bottom edge. I ain't lookin' foward to doing a hard to reach back glass and this same thing happen. Other than this the film works great and looks good. But..... hard to lay fingers = contamination. Contamination = I look bad = no customers = I should've stuck with a little more expensive film = lesson learned!
Djkyle65
So whats a good alternative sirus I?
miner-dma
QUOTE (Old Dude @ Apr 22 2009, 06:58 PM) [*]682017[/*]
QUOTE (wetintcars.com @ Apr 16 2009, 05:54 AM) [*]680683[/*]
QUOTE (prodigy @ Apr 1 2009, 11:27 AM) [*]677802[/*]
Do you guys have any trouble shrinking this film? I would love to use it just keep getting peanuts trie low heat but wouldnt hardley shrink film.


We have had this problem too. Also, it seems that the doors keep getting fingers at the bottom too. I love the look, feel, and esp. the price. But I can't handle peanuts/maggots/whatever they are called on the defrost lines and the fingers.

Howard is still amazing and the service was still great though. bananarock.gif

I'll second that! The few applications I've had has been on trucks. Side windows I have to let dry a bit then card the bottom edge because of "wanna be" fingers on bottom edge. I ain't lookin' foward to doing a hard to reach back glass and this same thing happen. Other than this the film works great and looks good. But..... hard to lay fingers = contamination. Contamination = I look bad = no customers = I should've stuck with a little more expensive film = lesson learned!


maybe i just got a good roll of true black, i have done 6 cars with it and have had no problems. one of the cars was my own because i wanted to see how it would look after it was all nice and dried up .. looks great... thumb.gif
Old Dude
I just started pulling off a roll of "40 (factory edges to the side) on roll ups and don't get fingers at the bottom now. If you plan on using this film you'd better keep the bay clean cause it will show any contamination due to the black color.
clear max
QUOTE (Old Dude @ Apr 25 2009, 09:45 AM) [*]682390[/*]
I just started pulling off a roll of "40 (factory edges to the side) on roll ups and don't get fingers at the bottom now. If you plan on using this film you'd better keep the bay clean cause it will show any contamination due to the black color.


I haven't had any issues with it. A very easy to release liner. And nice thickness and color. Thanks Howard beer.gif
Djkyle65
Anybody else having the finger issues ?
wetintcars.com
QUOTE (Djkyle65 @ May 27 2009, 01:37 AM) [*]689464[/*]
Anybody else having the finger issues ?


Yesterday I tinted an Acura TL (09) with True Black 35% for a local dealership, Looked great, no fingers. Who knew? dunno.gif
wetintcars.com
QUOTE (wetintcars.com @ May 27 2009, 08:10 AM) [*]689498[/*]
QUOTE (Djkyle65 @ May 27 2009, 01:37 AM) [*]689464[/*]
Anybody else having the finger issues ?


Yesterday I tinted an Acura TL (09) with True Black 35% for a local dealership, Looked great, no fingers. Who knew? dunno.gif


Okay, now I have had the chance to use it on several cars. Seems to me that is does have finger problems and doesn't hide dirt specs like VT Sirius I.

Final Verdict - Overall an "OK" film for use on trucks maybe. Cars no. Too many issues from peanuts to showing of dirt specs too easily. Release liner feels a bit "rubbery: too. Like the price but that's about it.

Sorry Howard I just don't like it.
justn8
It and the True Smoke seem to have the same issues I found dunno.gif I thought they'd be good for low level entry films but the hassles aren't worth it, I got 'used' to dealing with the issues, but it's a pain in the butt. Just not worth it in my opinion. Their Classic Charcoal 1.2 on the other hand... really nice film.
ClassOnGlass
when we used the true smoke we used 1 ply on rear and 2 ply on the sides
TINT
its a very nice film. but it needs improvement in adhesive icon_mrgreen.gif
justn8
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Jun 14 2009, 01:24 AM) [*]694996[/*]
when we used the true smoke we used 1 ply on rear and 2 ply on the sides


Why was that? Better adhesive on the 1 ply? My biggest problem with the True Smoke was fingers, everything, even doors, had to be shrunk perfectly or you were fighting with it. I also seemed to have issues with peanuts sometimes dunno.gif Which I never really do with anything else, couldn't figure it out.
ClassOnGlass
not not better adhesive but the thinner the film the less peanuts and shrink marks you get in the rear glass thats any film....as far as shrinking the doors you need to shrink them well or you will get fingers again with any film but the snap works the best on the express in my opinion
justn8
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Jun 14 2009, 06:47 PM) [*]695114[/*]
not not better adhesive but the thinner the film the less peanuts and shrink marks you get in the rear glass thats any film....as far as shrinking the doors you need to shrink them well or you will get fingers again with any film but the snap works the best on the express in my opinion


Interesting. Thanks. I don't plan on ever getting more of it anyway though. I'd just rather pay more and like working with the stuff.
EWF
Gents,

There were several posts regarding poor initial tack on the True Black. After a great deal of research and testing, I found myself in agreement. A change was implemented over a month ago.

Short term peel strength is now 60% higher, which has completely eliminated the puckers (that’s what the lab guys call them). You guys call them something else. They are caused by the memory effect in the base polyester and are overcome with quicker initial tack. As technical challenges go, this was an easy one to overcome.

For those of you that took True Black out on a first date and did not fall in love, please give it another chance. Some of my most demanding customers are now raving about the film.

I have 10 sample rolls set aside of the new construction. PM or email me if you would like one. First come, first served. It’s a strikingly beautiful film that has been improved as a result of customer feedback.

I listen.

THANKS TINTDUDE !!!

-Howard

TintDude
Cool beans! thumb.gif
justn8
QUOTE (EWF @ Jun 15 2009, 01:59 PM) [*]695277[/*]
Gents,

There were several posts regarding poor initial tack on the True Black. After a great deal of research and testing, I found myself in agreement. A change was implemented over a month ago.

Short term peel strength is now 60% higher, which has completely eliminated the puckers (that’s what the lab guys call them). You guys call them something else. They are caused by the memory effect in the base polyester and are overcome with quicker initial tack. As technical challenges go, this was an easy one to overcome.

For those of you that took True Black out on a first date and did not fall in love, please give it another chance. Some of my most demanding customers are now raving about the film.

I have 10 sample rolls set aside of the new construction. PM or email me if you would like one. First come, first served. It’s a strikingly beautiful film that has been improved as a result of customer feedback.

I listen.

THANKS TINTDUDE !!!

-Howard



Interesting. I got my hands on some of your film through a relative of mine up here who orders from you now, and we both had similar opinions. I can't wait to try some of the new stuff then. From everything I've read posted by you on here to first hand opinions, you're a stand up guy Howard and your customer service is great.
TINT
YOU GOT PM EWF icon_mrgreen.gif
flat rock stan
QUOTE (TintDude @ Jun 15 2009, 11:02 AM) [*]695279[/*]
Cool beans! thumb.gif

Howard is da mang twocents.gif Best informed, helpful, friendly, sincere, prepared distributor I have ever bought from. beer.gif






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