DRY SHRINKING
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Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 7 2009, 12:34 PM
i was curios but i have been doing this a long time and wonders who else does it? when i pull a car in the shop on a cold day and realize that i will be dry shrinking a bg with alot of curve. ill wet the glass and wipe a dryer sheet over the wetness. once ive spead the water to cover the bg ill turn the rear defrost on and this helps dry it out quicker. by the time the computer cuts the film and weed it to the point im ready to shrink it the softner is dry. i can make my water line threw the center of both the back glass and the film, place the film on the bg and begin shrinking. of course turning the defroster off before this step...
so my question is "how many speed up the process by using the defroster?"
and how many other ways do we all use dryer sheets???
micro-edge
Apr 7 2009, 01:11 PM
Dryer sheets are very toxic, cancer causing i believe. I've tried dryer sheets, and the soap method but i like powder the best
tintgod
Apr 7 2009, 01:16 PM
i haven't used dryer sheets in 6 years or so...i only use soap..and i just hit it with my heat gun if i need it to dry faster...my heat gun with dry it faster the the defrost will.
Dj Kustoms
Apr 7 2009, 01:47 PM
never done this and or heard of this technique....i couldnt really understand it either
Jarrett
Apr 7 2009, 01:47 PM
lite powder
watchdaride
Apr 7 2009, 01:56 PM
QUOTE (micro-edge @ Apr 7 2009, 01:11 PM) [*]679128[/*] Dryer sheets are very toxic, cancer causing i believe. I've tried dryer sheets, and the soap method but i like powder the best  how can it be so toxic if we use it on all our clothes . It would be more toxic with the clothes becuase its on our skin all day long. Is this a govt conspiracy?
Murray
Apr 7 2009, 01:56 PM
I used dryer sheets a while back now I mostly use soap unless its a funky curve I use powder
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 7 2009, 02:06 PM
i use both depending on the app. but the thing i dislike about powder is th e residue left behind, realy stands out on a black car. the main car i like using sheets on is the new o9 accord. it has reduced the install time by 10mis. wich i like that a aspect of it. powder ill use on like eclipse 3rd gen maybe a beatle "extremely curved glass" but like tint god use soapy water majority of the time for new mustamgs and slight curve.
never thought about it like this:
curve.................... technique 1.slight >>>>>>>> soapy water 2.mild >>>>>>>>> sheets 3.extreme >>>>>>> powder
Murray
Apr 7 2009, 02:13 PM
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 7 2009, 01:06 PM) [*]679143[/*] i use both depending on the app. but the thing i dislike about powder is th e residue left behind, realy stands out on a black car. the main car i like using sheets on is the new o9 accord. it has reduced the install time by 10mis. wich i like that a aspect of it. powder ill use on like eclipse 3rd gen maybe a beatle "extremely curved glass" but like tint god use soapy water majority of the time for new mustamgs and slight curve.
never thought about it like this:
curve.................... technique 1.slight >>>>>>>> soapy water 2.mild >>>>>>>>> sheets 3.extreme >>>>>>> powder word, I keep a chamois on hand to wipe the cars down with I even use it to shrink with when I do my final wet check smooth it out with the chamois then hard card it
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 7 2009, 02:17 PM
QUOTE (GreenCove @ Apr 7 2009, 05:13 PM) [*]679147[/*] QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 7 2009, 01:06 PM) [*]679143[/*] i use both depending on the app. but the thing i dislike about powder is th e residue left behind, realy stands out on a black car. the main car i like using sheets on is the new o9 accord. it has reduced the install time by 10mis. wich i like that a aspect of it. powder ill use on like eclipse 3rd gen maybe a beatle "extremely curved glass" but like tint god use soapy water majority of the time for new mustamgs and slight curve.
never thought about it like this:
curve.................... technique 1.slight >>>>>>>> soapy water 2.mild >>>>>>>>> sheets 3.extreme >>>>>>> powder word, I keep a chamois on hand to wipe the cars down with I even use it to shrink with when I do my final wet check smooth it out with the chamois then hard card it still trying to get a few of us together to make it to cat-tails for the weekend ill call ya this weekend and let yo know?
Murray
Apr 7 2009, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 7 2009, 01:17 PM) [*]679149[/*] QUOTE (GreenCove @ Apr 7 2009, 05:13 PM) [*]679147[/*] QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 7 2009, 01:06 PM) [*]679143[/*] i use both depending on the app. but the thing i dislike about powder is th e residue left behind, realy stands out on a black car. the main car i like using sheets on is the new o9 accord. it has reduced the install time by 10mis. wich i like that a aspect of it. powder ill use on like eclipse 3rd gen maybe a beatle "extremely curved glass" but like tint god use soapy water majority of the time for new mustamgs and slight curve.
never thought about it like this:
curve.................... technique 1.slight >>>>>>>> soapy water 2.mild >>>>>>>>> sheets 3.extreme >>>>>>> powder word, I keep a chamois on hand to wipe the cars down with I even use it to shrink with when I do my final wet check smooth it out with the chamois then hard card it still trying to get a few of us together to make it to cat-tails for the weekend ill call ya this weekend and let yo know? saturday afternoon I could take off early sundays ive normally got to much shat to take care of around the house
tint45
Apr 7 2009, 02:39 PM
QUOTE (tintgod @ Apr 7 2009, 04:16 PM) [*]679129[/*] i just hit it with my heat gun if i need it to dry faster...my heat gun with dry it faster the the defrost will.  Heat gun knocks it out in no time.
thatsnappyguy
Apr 7 2009, 03:23 PM
spray. wipe. lay.... that easy.
Jarrett
Apr 7 2009, 03:25 PM
QUOTE (watchdaride @ Apr 7 2009, 03:56 PM) [*]679140[/*] QUOTE (micro-edge @ Apr 7 2009, 01:11 PM) [*]679128[/*] Dryer sheets are very toxic, cancer causing i believe. I've tried dryer sheets, and the soap method but i like powder the best  how can it be so toxic if we use it on all our clothes . It would be more toxic with the clothes becuase its on our skin all day long. Is this a govt conspiracy? Fabric softners have many toxic chemical...MANY. anyway 1. you vent your home dryer outside. 2. your home dryer only gets to about 350 deg F. 3. your heat gun can easily get over 1000 deg F. 4. you stand directly over/around a bg while shrinking. ( do you usually stick your head in your dryer while your clothes dry???) 5. different chemical reactions take place at different temperatures and in different quantites ( higher heat = more of a catalysts) I'm sure there is more, I'm merely stating what common sense would tell us. smoking causes caner, emphysema, heart disease, child birth deformities, etc (didnt spell check)... yet many people still decide to
Tint Artist
Apr 7 2009, 05:11 PM
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TINTMASTERMATT
Apr 7 2009, 05:57 PM
Yeah, this is a great tip on those cold days! ive been doing this for some time now as well.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 8 2009, 07:34 AM
QUOTE (Jarrett @ Apr 7 2009, 05:25 PM) [*]679158[/*] QUOTE (watchdaride @ Apr 7 2009, 03:56 PM) [*]679140[/*] QUOTE (micro-edge @ Apr 7 2009, 01:11 PM) [*]679128[/*] Dryer sheets are very toxic, cancer causing i believe. I've tried dryer sheets, and the soap method but i like powder the best  how can it be so toxic if we use it on all our clothes . It would be more toxic with the clothes becuase its on our skin all day long. Is this a govt conspiracy? Fabric softners have many toxic chemical...MANY. anyway 1. you vent your home dryer outside. 2. your home dryer only gets to about 350 deg F. 3. your heat gun can easily get over 1000 deg F. 4. you stand directly over/around a bg while shrinking. ( do you usually stick your head in your dryer while your clothes dry???) 5. different chemical reactions take place at different temperatures and in different quantites ( higher heat = more of a catalysts) I'm sure there is more, I'm merely stating what common sense would tell us. smoking causes caner, emphysema, heart disease, child birth deformities, etc (didnt spell check)... yet many people still decide to wow cant be anymore toxic than using a heat gun period...read your labels...lmao...cancer risk only in cali...
scottydosnntkno
Apr 8 2009, 08:01 AM
QUOTE (Dj Kustoms @ Apr 7 2009, 02:47 PM) [*]679136[/*] never done this and or heard of this technique....i couldnt really understand it either its really very simple. mist the BG, wipe a dryer sheet over it, and wait for it to dry. works just like a soap shrink, only I like soap better. Its all I use on any car(except L&Ping on vettes/beetles) then I use wet
micro-edge
Apr 8 2009, 10:21 AM
QUOTE (watchdaride @ Apr 7 2009, 04:56 PM) [*]679140[/*] QUOTE (micro-edge @ Apr 7 2009, 01:11 PM) [*]679128[/*] Dryer sheets are very toxic, cancer causing i believe. I've tried dryer sheets, and the soap method but i like powder the best  how can it be so toxic if we use it on all our clothes . It would be more toxic with the clothes becuase its on our skin all day long. Is this a govt conspiracy? I found this through a search which TD had posted... Although they may make your clothes feel soft and smell fresh, fabric softener and dryer sheets are some of the most toxic products around. And chances are that the staggering 99.8 percent of Americans who use common commercial detergents, fabric softeners, bleaches, and stain removers would think twice if they knew they contained chemicals that could cause cancer and brain damage. Here is a list of just some of the chemicals found in fabric softeners and dryer sheets: Benzyl acetate: Linked to pancreatic cancer Benzyl Alcohol: Upper respiratory tract irritant Ethanol: On the Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Hazardous Waste list and can cause central nervous system disorders Limonene: Known carcinogen A-Terpineol: Can cause respiratory problems, including fatal edema, and central nervous system damage Ethyl Acetate: A narcotic on the EPA's Hazardous Waste list Camphor: Causes central nervous system disorders Chloroform: Neurotoxic, anesthetic and carcinogenic Linalool: A narcotic that causes central nervous system disorders Pentane: A chemical known to be harmful if inhaled So how could products with pretty names like Soft Ocean Mist, Summer Orchard and April Fresh be so dangerous? The chemicals in fabric softeners are pungent and strong smelling -- so strong that they require the use of these heavy fragrances (think 50 times as much fragrance) just to cover up the smells. Furthermore, synthetic fabrics, which are the reason fabric softeners were created in the first place, do not smell good either when heated in a dryer or heated by our bodies ... hence the need for even more hefty fragrances. In other words, remove all the added fragrance that endears people to fabric softeners and -- like the cliché wolf in sheep's clothing -- the real smells of the chemical-laced fabric softener and the synthetic fabrics they were designed around may prompt people to shoot their laundry machines and be done with it. Are "Soft" Clothes Worth It? Fabric softeners are made to stay in your clothing for long periods of time. As such, chemicals are slowly released either into the air for you to inhale or onto your skin for you to absorb. Dryer sheets are particularly noxious because they are heated in the dryer and the chemicals are released through dryer vents and out into the environment. Health effects from being exposed to the chemicals in fabric softeners include: Central nervous system disorders Headaches Nausea Vomiting Dizziness Blood pressure reduction Irritation to skin, mucus membranes and respiratory tract Pancreatic cancer Don't wrap your family in chemical-coated fabric-softened towels! Simple baking soda will leave your laundry soft and your health intact.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 8 2009, 10:36 AM
http://www.benmanind.com/msds/jd/snuggle/2979902.pdf i call your BS!!! Dryer Sheets Cleaning Supplies at BizRate - Shop online for ... Snuggle Dryer Sheets Coin Vend Pack - 2 Sheets by JohnsonDiversey .... 80168 Bounce Fabric Softener Sheets Special ingredients are released by the .... These dryer sheets are hypoallergenic, non-toxic, biodegradable and safe to use. ... www.bizrate.com/smallstorage_cleaningsupplies/la... - 270k - Similar pages http://www.bizrate.com/smallstorage_cleani...2--641555-.html
filmslayer
Apr 8 2009, 10:41 AM
sounds harmless to me , unless you smoke it or rub your eyes with it ....
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 8 2009, 10:52 AM
 this gut just got caught smoking it...lol i use a dryer sheet in the fiter to my vacum at the house to odorize as i vacum. it fits perfect in its air filter...works great!
TintDude
Apr 8 2009, 10:52 AM
The dryer sheet method started on this site as a better alternative to using fabric sizer, which also originated here. The dryer sheets work great, but they made a lot of people, including me, very sick from chronic, daily exposure. Then Mdog invented the soap shrink technique with a non-toxic alternative to dryer sheets that works just as well, so there's no need to say that people who mention the toxicity of dryer sheets are 'conspiracy theorists', we have experience getting very sick from them, and since a better alternative has been found, why not try the soap shrink instead? Shrinking Tint with the Mdog Soap Method
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 8 2009, 10:57 AM
QUOTE (TintDude @ Apr 8 2009, 01:52 PM) [*]679308[/*] The dryer sheet method started on this site as a better alternative to using fabric sizer, which also originated here. The dryer sheets work great, but they made a lot of people, including me, very sick from chronic, daily exposure. Then Mdog invented the soap shrink technique with a non-toxic alternative to dryer sheets that works just as well, so there's no need to say that people who mention the toxicity of dryer sheets are 'conspiracy theorists', we have experience getting very sick from them, and since a better alternative has been found, why not try the soap shrink instead? Shrinking Tint with the Mdog Soap Methodmad props TD as far as what type of bar does it matter..... and i will add that there is safe dyer sheets out there for us to use...."that are non-toxic"
TintDude
Apr 8 2009, 10:59 AM
I'd recommend Ivory soap, works great and one bar will last forever. Plus it dries A LOT faster than dryer sheets.
filmslayer
Apr 8 2009, 11:25 AM
i just spray it with my bottle wipe it dry and go !
micro-edge
Apr 8 2009, 12:33 PM
I've just always heard everyone up here complain about them being toxic. I never had issues using a dryer sheet but still prefer powder
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 8 2009, 12:54 PM
QUOTE (micro-edge @ Apr 8 2009, 03:33 PM) [*]679330[/*] I've just always heard everyone up here complain about them being toxic. I never had issues using a dryer sheet but still prefer powder  i agree...i like the way the tint reacts with powder...i get the best reaction from the tint using powder
scottydosnntkno
Apr 8 2009, 01:03 PM
QUOTE (TintDude @ Apr 8 2009, 11:59 AM) [*]679312[/*] I'd recommend Ivory soap, works great and one bar will last forever. Plus it dries A LOT faster than dryer sheets.  Plus ivory is like 3 bars for $1.50. One usually lasts about 6 months depending on how many cars you do.
Felixbiel
Apr 9 2009, 12:46 PM
I never hear about anyone using SS 180 heat shaping wax. I have used dryer sheets and powder and soap and nothing gives the heat tolerance or the movement that the wax provides. You spray it on and rub it in to get good coverage. Then when finished shaping I just wipe it off with a buffer cover cloth, it comes right off, and it leaves the back glass extremely clean. More so than even a spray cleaner and paper towels.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 9 2009, 01:16 PM
QUOTE (Felixbiel @ Apr 9 2009, 03:46 PM) [*]679559[/*] I never hear about anyone using SS 180 heat shaping wax. I have used dryer sheets and powder and soap and nothing gives the heat tolerance or the movement that the wax provides. You spray it on and rub it in to get good coverage. Then when finished shaping I just wipe it off with a buffer cover cloth, it comes right off, and it leaves the back glass extremely clean. More so than even a spray cleaner and paper towels. "sounds costly there felix the house cat"
Felixbiel
Apr 11 2009, 09:26 AM
the cans are like three bucks and they last a few weeks depending on how much percentage of sales is tint.
nctinter
Apr 11 2009, 04:55 PM
I stopped using dryer sheets about 3 years ago as well. Do you hold it with your bare hand when putting it on or use a glove or anything? I figured that handling it every day and the residue getting on the skin would end up being bad one day. So I went to the soap method and it works just as well. I gotta check out the wax method though, sounds cool
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 13 2009, 06:27 AM
QUOTE (nctinter @ Apr 11 2009, 07:55 PM) [*]679885[/*] I stopped using dryer sheets about 3 years ago as well. Do you hold it with your bare hand when putting it on or use a glove or anything? I figured that handling it every day and the residue getting on the skin would end up being bad one day. So I went to the soap method and it works just as well. I gotta check out the wax method though, sounds cool i buy the non toxic fragrance free hyper allergenic ....wet the glass and spread....not scared here..heat guns are more dangerous and wil cause cancer also
nctinter
Apr 13 2009, 09:22 AM
how does a heat gun cause cancer?
scottydosnntkno
Apr 13 2009, 11:59 AM
QUOTE (nctinter @ Apr 13 2009, 10:22 AM) [*]680148[/*] how does a heat gun cause cancer?  he was joking.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 13 2009, 01:02 PM
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 13 2009, 01:59 PM) [*]680204[/*] QUOTE (nctinter @ Apr 13 2009, 10:22 AM) [*]680148[/*] how does a heat gun cause cancer?  he was joking. NO I WASNT! it says it in the manual and believe its from the brushes(contacts) something about the materail its made from but will say may cause cancer,,,some sort of california requirment with them having to label it...
scottydosnntkno
Apr 13 2009, 02:05 PM
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 13 2009, 02:02 PM) [*]680221[/*] QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 13 2009, 01:59 PM) [*]680204[/*] QUOTE (nctinter @ Apr 13 2009, 10:22 AM) [*]680148[/*] how does a heat gun cause cancer?  he was joking. NO I WASNT! it says it in the manual and believe its from the brushes(contacts) something about the materail its made from but will say may cause cancer,,,some sort of california requirment with them having to label it... everything causes cancer in california. but really, whos going to take apart your heat gun and eat the magnets off the motor?
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
Apr 15 2009, 08:02 AM
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 13 2009, 05:05 PM) [*]680228[/*] QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 13 2009, 02:02 PM) [*]680221[/*] QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 13 2009, 01:59 PM) [*]680204[/*] QUOTE (nctinter @ Apr 13 2009, 10:22 AM) [*]680148[/*] how does a heat gun cause cancer?  he was joking. NO I WASNT! it says it in the manual and believe its from the brushes(contacts) something about the materail its made from but will say may cause cancer,,,some sort of california requirment with them having to label it... everything causes cancer in california. but really, whos going to take apart your heat gun and eat the magnets off the motor? realy you gotta be smarter than that? the dust that exits the gun during use is what was meant. the brushes are constantly moving causes of a electic motor. they are touching copper to brush and this creates dust in the air from the brushes, so yes it does with out taking he gun apart and eating the brushes....to funny
Monique
Apr 26 2009, 11:39 PM
I like the dryer sheet method, although I've never tried the soap. I do wear a disposable plastic glove when wiping the dryer sheet over the moist glass though. And yes, here in CA there are warning labels FOR warning labels! For most anything that can get released in the air, it's all because of CARB...California Air Resources Board.
Felixbiel
Apr 27 2009, 08:07 PM
QUOTE I like the dryer sheet method, although I've never tried the soap. I do wear a disposable plastic glove when wiping the dryer sheet over the moist glass though. And yes, here in CA there are warning labels FOR warning labels! For most anything that can get released in the air, it's all because of CARB...California Air Resources Board. I feel bad for you in California. You all are about to green yourself into oblivion...
Dj Kustoms
Apr 28 2009, 08:45 AM
i agree cause thats the soap i use
tint51
Apr 28 2009, 10:52 AM
Bounce ingredients:
biodegrardable cationic softners and perfume. That is it!
FREDSTINTING
Apr 28 2009, 07:41 PM
i was all ways told and done this is the spray the window wipe it clean then light spray the fold your dryer sheet in half and the put a half folded paper towl on the back of dryer sheet so you don't get the stuff on your skine it bad for you. then wipe it across the back window until all the warter is going then take a paper towl and spray the heck out of it and the do a h pattern straight across the middle of the window and then down both sides of the window from top to bottom to lock in the sides you dont have to lock the sides but i find in some situation it works better
but i got away from the dryer sheet and just use babby powder it works better no harsh chemicals to hurt your skin
the whole point of the dryer sheet is to get the chemical on the window so you have the film lay flat and not stick to the window while shrinking
baby powder does the same
scottydosnntkno
Apr 28 2009, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (FREDSTINTING @ Apr 28 2009, 08:41 PM) [*]682999[/*] i was all ways told and done this is the spray the window wipe it clean then light spray the fold your dryer sheet in half and the put a half folded paper towl on the back of dryer sheet so you don't get the stuff on your skine it bad for you. then wipe it across the back window until all the warter is going then take a paper towl and spray the heck out of it and the do a h pattern straight across the middle of the window and then down both sides of the window from top to bottom to lock in the sides you dont have to lock the sides but i find in some situation it works better
but i got away from the dryer sheet and just use babby powder it works better no harsh chemicals to hurt your skin
the whole point of the dryer sheet is to get the chemical on the window so you have the film lay flat and not stick to the window while shrinking
baby powder does the same with soap you don't even need to take the time to wet the H or anything. Just lay the film up and go. I find with powder the film doesn't take as much heat as it does with soap
LB55
Jun 7 2009, 08:59 PM
so the dryer sheets just make the window dryer before you shrink it?
27yeartinter
Jun 16 2009, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 8 2009, 10:36 AM) [*]679299[/*] http://www.benmanind.com/msds/jd/snuggle/2979902.pdf i call your BS!!! Dryer Sheets Cleaning Supplies at BizRate - Shop online for ... Snuggle Dryer Sheets Coin Vend Pack - 2 Sheets by JohnsonDiversey .... 80168 Bounce Fabric Softener Sheets Special ingredients are released by the .... These dryer sheets are hypoallergenic, non-toxic, biodegradable and safe to use. ... www.bizrate.com/smallstorage_cleaningsupplies/la... - 270k - Similar pages http://www.bizrate.com/smallstorage_cleani...2--641555-.html Finally,someone that researches what they say,instead of just letting bs fall out of there mouths because someone else said so.Drop the band wagon intelligence.
skanlan
Aug 26 2009, 07:29 AM
If the other shop uses dryer sheets and you don't chances are you'll outlive your competitor right!! Cool, but I might die from white lung disease from inhaling too much baby powder!!
tint51
Aug 26 2009, 08:12 AM
QUOTE (skanlan @ Aug 26 2009, 07:29 AM) [*]712711[/*] If the other shop uses dryer sheets and you don't chances are you'll outlive your competitor right!! Cool, but I might die from white lung disease from inhaling too much baby powder!! lol, I was just thinking about that....I know you are not supposed to inhale baby powder all the time either..
newshade
Sep 3 2009, 03:33 PM
QUOTE (TintDude @ Apr 8 2009, 11:59 AM) [*]679312[/*] I'd recommend Ivory soap, works great and one bar will last forever. Plus it dries A LOT faster than dryer sheets.  Good call, thats what I use. Solid.
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