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Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
must use a peice of abs or plastic hard card. the bigger the better! "used to displace the preasure"
this is a hub cap removale tool


scottydosnntkno
what?
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 20 2009, 06:25 PM) [*]681441[/*]
what?



the mirror with presure clipsplace abs on the lower part of the mirror. when you place the tool on the presure clip the bend of the tool will fall on the abs. you will add presure on the tool and it will slide up. abs is the to displace the presure on the glass..works great and as soon as one comes in my shop, you will see the process in a video....this is a great concept and use it on all suicide clips (v-shaped/style)chevy s10 was the first to have this style that nobody wants to mess with..
Kokomo Tint and Dent
Nice to see the forum is still running good. I actually have to work at my new job so I haven't been lurking around TD much anymore.

Anyway.. If I don't see a setscrew the mirror stays on. I've broken 2 windshields jacking with those damn clip on rvm's. The mobile glass guys in town say that if you use the aftermarket mirror glue you see in chain stores it chemically reacts with the glass making it easier to pull a chunk of glass out.

So what do you say Do you feel lucky? Do ya? Punk?

Take care guys...
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (Kokomo Tint and Dent @ Apr 20 2009, 07:48 PM) [*]681450[/*]
Nice to see the forum is still running good. I actually have to work at my new job so I haven't been lurking around TD much anymore.

Anyway.. If I don't see a setscrew the mirror stays on. I've broken 2 windshields jacking with those damn clip on rvm's. The mobile glass guys in town say that if you use the aftermarket mirror glue you see in chain stores it chemically reacts with the glass making it easier to pull a chunk of glass out.

So what do you say Do you feel lucky? Do ya? Punk?

Take care guys...



way to funny ford has purchased or ha started making them te same as chevy...tis the name suicide clips. and not after market this tool works great for me and since im a glass man also I say your glass man is full of it...glue changing glass integrity lmao...your so funny or imthe luckiest man alive
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 20 2009, 07:27 PM) [*]681459[/*]
QUOTE (Kokomo Tint and Dent @ Apr 20 2009, 07:48 PM) [*]681450[/*]
Nice to see the forum is still running good. I actually have to work at my new job so I haven't been lurking around TD much anymore.

Anyway.. If I don't see a setscrew the mirror stays on. I've broken 2 windshields jacking with those damn clip on rvm's. The mobile glass guys in town say that if you use the aftermarket mirror glue you see in chain stores it chemically reacts with the glass making it easier to pull a chunk of glass out.

So what do you say Do you feel lucky? Do ya? Punk?

Take care guys...



way to funny ford has purchased or ha started making them te same as chevy...tis the name suicide clips. and not after market this tool works great for me and since im a glass man also I say your glass man is full of it...glue changing glass integrity lmao...your so funny or imthe luckiest man alive

I think its physically impossible for a chemical, let alone a glue to change the properties of glass? Its basically impermeable to anything you can put on it isn't it?

as for the mirrors like was said in the other thread, even if it has a screw on it the customers taking it off, arranging to have it taken off, or I'm cutting around it. A broken MKZ shield, a broken flex mirror, and a cracked subaru shield all within 3 months was enough for me to not touch mirrors anymore. The flex was a few days ago, and I barely even touched it and the plastic around the ball split and popped off. The new waiver I have states that I'm not responsible for any glass no matter what happens. Actually had another custy with a f150 who cracked his own windshield trying to take off the mirror. He was pisses, but I was like hey I have a signed waiver by both of use you knew what would happen.
Dj Kustoms
this sucks bc im not down for splicing a mirror.think it makes the job alot crappier
TTS
Jeff... are you suggesting this because it is less expensive than the actual tool ? or because it works better than the ford tool ?

Thanx!
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (Dj Kustoms @ Apr 20 2009, 09:18 PM) [*]681487[/*]
this sucks bc im not down for splicing a mirror.think it makes the job alot crappier

Its not that often that I splice. Most strips are to the top of the mirror, or even with the bottom edge so I don't have to do anything to it. Its on the rare occasions I'm doing a full shield that I have to splice it if they don't remove it.

TTS- I would assume because it works better. Being off a MAC truck I"m sure its not cheap.
Dj Kustoms
see all of my strips have been inches past the mirror if not the whole shield
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (TTS @ Apr 20 2009, 10:21 PM) [*]681490[/*]
Jeff... are you suggesting this because it is less expensive than the actual tool ? or because it works better than the ford tool ?

Thanx!



I just know the ford tool is rare to find and it is a lot shorter. I truely think this gives you a lot more leverage and the plate displaces the presure -wouldn't it be like temporarily thickening the glass? im not a physics major, but havnt Broke any using it yet....
TTS
One of my best friends is a SMT for Ford and he said the glass breaks often even when they use the 'ford' tool... beer.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (TTS @ Apr 21 2009, 01:13 AM) [*]681517[/*]
One of my best friends is a SMT for Ford and he said the glass breaks often even when they use the 'ford' tool... beer.gif


i think its made to short, but then again a ford machanic doesnt know alot about glass in the first place
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (Dj Kustoms @ Apr 20 2009, 09:33 PM) [*]681497[/*]
see all of my strips have been inches past the mirror if not the whole shield

Those are pretty big strips if their going inches past the mirror. On most cars just to the top of the mirror is already past the as1, and if thats not then the bottom definately is.
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 20 2009, 11:02 PM) [*]681515[/*]
QUOTE (TTS @ Apr 20 2009, 10:21 PM) [*]681490[/*]
Jeff... are you suggesting this because it is less expensive than the actual tool ? or because it works better than the ford tool ?

Thanx!



I just know the ford tool is rare to find and it is a lot shorter. I truely think this gives you a lot more leverage and the plate displaces the presure -wouldn't it be like temporarily thickening the glass? im not a physics major, but havnt Broke any using it yet....

I think your way the biggest thing that helps would be the plate displacing the pressure. IF the mirrors break so easy as it is with the ford too, I definately don't think more leverage is what you need, it would only make it worse. Displacing the pressure would though. The times I've cracked them, it was the mirror mount literally popping out of the glass, so even displacing the pressure wouldn't have helped me. Its just a bad design.
tintgod
spray some foaming glass cleaner in and around the mirror bracket, let is soak for a couple of seconds...grab the base of the mirror bracket reaching over the top of the mirror itself...wiggle the mirror very slightly at the same time pulling up on the mirror at the same angle of the windshield.

the glass cleaner creates less friction between the mirror clamp and the base that is attached to the glass..making for an easy removal without any tool. twocents.gif

I have done this many times with great success, the one time i thought i can do it without the glass cleaner..snap. mad3.gif
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (tintgod @ Apr 21 2009, 04:23 PM) [*]681716[/*]
spray some foaming glass cleaner in and around the mirror bracket, let is soak for a couple of seconds...grab the base of the mirror bracket reaching over the top of the mirror itself...wiggle the mirror very slightly at the same time pulling up on the mirror at the same angle of the windshield.

the glass cleaner creates less friction between the mirror clamp and the base that is attached to the glass..making for an easy removal without any tool. twocents.gif

I have done this many times with great success, the one time i thought i can do it without the glass cleaner..snap. mad3.gif

how did you get it off without pushing on the clip?
tintgod
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 21 2009, 09:20 PM) [*]681752[/*]
QUOTE (tintgod @ Apr 21 2009, 04:23 PM) [*]681716[/*]
spray some foaming glass cleaner in and around the mirror bracket, let is soak for a couple of seconds...grab the base of the mirror bracket reaching over the top of the mirror itself...wiggle the mirror very slightly at the same time pulling up on the mirror at the same angle of the windshield.

the glass cleaner creates less friction between the mirror clamp and the base that is attached to the glass..making for an easy removal without any tool. twocents.gif

I have done this many times with great success, the one time i thought i can do it without the glass cleaner..snap. mad3.gif

how did you get it off without pushing on the clip?

oh...are you talking about the mirror that has the funky little thing at the bottom of the mirror that you have to push up to slide the mirror off..?


if so...yeah...i don't even touch those...to much of a risk....sorry...i got confused with the style you can just slide off or pull on it and get it off...my bad..continue.
tintgod
http://www.v8sho.com/images/Misc/RVM.gif

is this the one you are talking about.?
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (tintgod @ Apr 21 2009, 08:21 PM) [*]681778[/*]
http://www.v8sho.com/images/Misc/RVM.gif

is this the one you are talking about.?

yeah kinda. the thread was about the ford style where its like a two sided butterfly clip thing. idk i don't touch mirrors anymore
tint_audiopros
I think jeff was referring to the nasty design on the 00 s-10 / blazer that have the 2 clips that won't come off for junk.
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Apr 21 2009, 11:10 PM) [*]681801[/*]
I think jeff was referring to the nasty design on the 00 s-10 / blazer that have the 2 clips that won't come off for junk.

I know, but lincolns/fords are the same way. Even the techs break them trying to take them off.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (tintgod @ Apr 21 2009, 06:23 PM) [*]681716[/*]
spray some foaming glass cleaner in and around the mirror bracket, let is soak for a couple of seconds...grab the base of the mirror bracket reaching over the top of the mirror itself...wiggle the mirror very slightly at the same time pulling up on the mirror at the same angle of the windshield.

the glass cleaner creates less friction between the mirror clamp and the base that is attached to the glass..making for an easy removal without any tool. twocents.gif

I have done this many times with great success, the one time i thought i can do it without the glass cleaner..snap. mad3.gif



your thinking of the old style...
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 22 2009, 01:21 AM) [*]681806[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Apr 21 2009, 11:10 PM) [*]681801[/*]
I think jeff was referring to the nasty design on the 00 s-10 / blazer that have the 2 clips that won't come off for junk.

I know, but lincolns/fords are the same way. Even the techs break them trying to take them off.



lol..because techs are not glass guys like us...

im still waiting for one to come in the shop so i can make a video...
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 22 2009, 07:35 AM) [*]681832[/*]
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 22 2009, 01:21 AM) [*]681806[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Apr 21 2009, 11:10 PM) [*]681801[/*]
I think jeff was referring to the nasty design on the 00 s-10 / blazer that have the 2 clips that won't come off for junk.

I know, but lincolns/fords are the same way. Even the techs break them trying to take them off.



lol..because techs are not glass guys like us...

im still waiting for one to come in the shop so i can make a video...

You would think that it can't be that much rocket science though.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 22 2009, 10:37 AM) [*]681852[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 22 2009, 07:35 AM) [*]681832[/*]
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Apr 22 2009, 01:21 AM) [*]681806[/*]
QUOTE (tint_audiopros @ Apr 21 2009, 11:10 PM) [*]681801[/*]
I think jeff was referring to the nasty design on the 00 s-10 / blazer that have the 2 clips that won't come off for junk.

I know, but lincolns/fords are the same way. Even the techs break them trying to take them off.



lol..because techs are not glass guys like us...

im still waiting for one to come in the shop so i can make a video...

You would think that it can't be that much rocket science though.


you would think not, but nobody but a select few remove them
DarthShader
Thanks for the tip! Gonna give that one a try.
wetintcars.com
I too have broken them. Ford needs a redesign. Glass guy who replaced my van windshield got it off no problem but I forgot to ask how he did it.

Maybe a glass guy could weigh in on this one.
samabhi125
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 20 2009, 12:43 PM) [*]681385[/*]
must use a peice of abs or plastic hard card. the bigger the better! "used to displace the preasure"
this is a hub cap removale tool





How this Hub cap removal tool is used?
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (samabhi125 @ Jun 12 2009, 07:13 AM) [*]694560[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Apr 20 2009, 12:43 PM) [*]681385[/*]
must use a peice of abs or plastic hard card. the bigger the better! "used to displace the preasure"
this is a hub cap removale tool





How this Hub cap removal tool is used?



check out the video on how i use it....GO HERE

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=58878457
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
quick note "i did cut about a half inch of the red rubber off on the one side, needed the extra clerance"
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
hehehe..bump






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