Question about the RYK shrink
TintWizard
Jul 3 2009, 04:33 AM
QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 2 2009, 10:09 PM) [*]699390[/*] Dry soap? Fill me in my Canadian friend... That guy can shrink most windows in under 2 mins, and never have a finger popping up after its installed.. I showed the owner of Tint Tek20/20 how I shrink a bg..they said they never quite saw it like that and were impressed. most of my shrinks are between 2-3 minutes..never any fingers to chase down. my cloth is permiated in ivory soap, then dries out over night..I have many cloths ready to go for different back windows..you rub on the Ivory "haze" that is no longer wet so it's pretty much ready to for shrinking as soon as you smear the dried ivory soap cloth over the bg. The Ivory "smear stays on the window..not on the bg tint when shrinking. If doing many patterns of the same car, it's VERY quick because the dried soap STAYS on the window..simply shrink , then roll up pattern , grab another peice of film and shrink again without the need for re soaping. I've shrank as many as 10 precut patterns on the same soaped up bg without flaw or fingers in 30 minutes . usind dual heat guns and this technique
sunlimitedCT
Jul 3 2009, 05:01 AM
QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 2 2009, 10:09 PM) [*]699390[/*] Dry soap? Fill me in my Canadian friend... I will say this though Tw, the method in this video is a good way to shrink it seems. Although I like the way I was tought it a lil better.. I learned it from Smoking Moe, who is probably the best shrinker I have ever personaly met. That guy can shrink most windows in under 2 mins, and never have a finger popping up after its installed.. Gotta give the guy credit, he wet shrinks a beetle in prob 9 mins.. 9 mins. on a wet shrink on that car is damn impressive. I wouldn't attempt to do that wet. I just spary a quick shot of solution on the b/g, go to town on the doors, and by the time I'm done the b/g is nice and hazy, ready to go.
scottydosnntkno
Jul 3 2009, 06:47 AM
QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 3 2009, 04:33 AM) [*]699450[/*] QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 2 2009, 10:09 PM) [*]699390[/*] Dry soap? Fill me in my Canadian friend... That guy can shrink most windows in under 2 mins, and never have a finger popping up after its installed.. I showed the owner of Tint Tek20/20 how I shrink a bg..they said they never quite saw it like that and were impressed. most of my shrinks are between 2-3 minutes..never any fingers to chase down. my cloth is permiated in ivory soap, then dries out over night..I have many cloths ready to go for different back windows..you rub on the Ivory "haze" that is no longer wet so it's pretty much ready to for shrinking as soon as you smear the dried ivory soap cloth over the bg. The Ivory "smear stays on the window..not on the bg tint when shrinking. If doing many patterns of the same car, it's VERY quick because the dried soap STAYS on the window..simply shrink , then roll up pattern , grab another peice of film and shrink again without the need for re soaping. I've shrank as many as 10 precut patterns on the same soaped up bg without flaw or fingers in 30 minutes . usind dual heat guns and this technique  I do the same thing, only I reuse the same soap cloth for a few weeks at a time usually, so all I have to do is spray it real quick, wipe a little more soap on it, then wipe on the backglass. when its hot out like right now, by the time I'm done wiping and go and get the film cut and my heat gun turned on its all ready to go.
TintWizard
Jul 3 2009, 07:30 AM
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 3 2009, 09:47 AM) [*]699473[/*] QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 3 2009, 04:33 AM) [*]699450[/*] QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 2 2009, 10:09 PM) [*]699390[/*] Dry soap? Fill me in my Canadian friend... That guy can shrink most windows in under 2 mins, and never have a finger popping up after its installed.. I showed the owner of Tint Tek20/20 how I shrink a bg..they said they never quite saw it like that and were impressed. most of my shrinks are between 2-3 minutes..never any fingers to chase down. my cloth is permiated in ivory soap, then dries out over night..I have many cloths ready to go for different back windows..you rub on the Ivory "haze" that is no longer wet so it's pretty much ready to for shrinking as soon as you smear the dried ivory soap cloth over the bg. The Ivory "smear stays on the window..not on the bg tint when shrinking. If doing many patterns of the same car, it's VERY quick because the dried soap STAYS on the window..simply shrink , then roll up pattern , grab another peice of film and shrink again without the need for re soaping. I've shrank as many as 10 precut patterns on the same soaped up bg without flaw or fingers in 30 minutes . usind dual heat guns and this technique  I do the same thing, only I reuse the same soap cloth for a few weeks at a time usually, so all I have to do is spray it real quick, wipe a little more soap on it, then wipe on the backglass. when its hot out like right now, by the time I'm done wiping and go and get the film cut and my heat gun turned on its all ready to go.   ..same here. 1 cloth lasts me about 500 bg windows b4 I turf it..the more I use the same cloth..the better it gets because it literally becomes impregnated with soap
scottydosnntkno
Jul 3 2009, 08:29 PM
QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 3 2009, 08:30 AM) [*]699482[/*] QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 3 2009, 09:47 AM) [*]699473[/*] QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 3 2009, 04:33 AM) [*]699450[/*] QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 2 2009, 10:09 PM) [*]699390[/*] Dry soap? Fill me in my Canadian friend... That guy can shrink most windows in under 2 mins, and never have a finger popping up after its installed.. I showed the owner of Tint Tek20/20 how I shrink a bg..they said they never quite saw it like that and were impressed. most of my shrinks are between 2-3 minutes..never any fingers to chase down. my cloth is permiated in ivory soap, then dries out over night..I have many cloths ready to go for different back windows..you rub on the Ivory "haze" that is no longer wet so it's pretty much ready to for shrinking as soon as you smear the dried ivory soap cloth over the bg. The Ivory "smear stays on the window..not on the bg tint when shrinking. If doing many patterns of the same car, it's VERY quick because the dried soap STAYS on the window..simply shrink , then roll up pattern , grab another peice of film and shrink again without the need for re soaping. I've shrank as many as 10 precut patterns on the same soaped up bg without flaw or fingers in 30 minutes . usind dual heat guns and this technique  I do the same thing, only I reuse the same soap cloth for a few weeks at a time usually, so all I have to do is spray it real quick, wipe a little more soap on it, then wipe on the backglass. when its hot out like right now, by the time I'm done wiping and go and get the film cut and my heat gun turned on its all ready to go.   ..same here. 1 cloth lasts me about 500 bg windows b4 I turf it..the more I use the same cloth..the better it gets because it literally becomes impregnated with soap  same here, but I can see what side goes down since its kinda brownish instead of the green cloth from the little bit of dirt it picks up from the window/gaskets etc. I've had the same piece of soap for like 2 years, and its still more than half its size
pierce8468
Jul 4 2009, 04:32 AM
QUOTE (sunlimitedCT @ Jul 3 2009, 05:01 AM) [*]699455[/*] QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 2 2009, 10:09 PM) [*]699390[/*] Dry soap? Fill me in my Canadian friend... I will say this though Tw, the method in this video is a good way to shrink it seems. Although I like the way I was tought it a lil better.. I learned it from Smoking Moe, who is probably the best shrinker I have ever personaly met. That guy can shrink most windows in under 2 mins, and never have a finger popping up after its installed.. Gotta give the guy credit, he wet shrinks a beetle in prob 9 mins.. 9 mins. on a wet shrink on that car is damn impressive. I wouldn't attempt to do that wet. I just spary a quick shot of solution on the b/g, go to town on the doors, and by the time I'm done the b/g is nice and hazy, ready to go. I was very impressed to see how fast he did it... TW, oh ok now I see what you mean.. I was thinking maybe you had a special soap or something... I tried the soap shrink just this week, and it was just not for me. seemed to not allow the film to float as much as a dryer sheet does... perhaps I just didnt have enough soap on the glass?
TintWizard
Jul 4 2009, 04:48 AM
QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 4 2009, 07:32 AM) [*]699769[/*] I tried the soap shrink just this week, and it was just not for me. seemed to not allow the film to float as much as a dryer sheet does... perhaps I just didnt have enough soap on the glass? Funny thing is..whenever I show someone the way I do it.it looks easy and is quick. When they do it ..it's new ..not just the procedure is new bu the soap is new, the cloth they are using is new. Sounds crazy, but I just replaced my cloth and ivory soap bar and now it succks  But I know after about using the cloth and bar of soap after a few more cars, the cloth will become embedded with dry soap making it so you need just a spritz of water on the cloth..just enough to make the ivory that's already on the cloth smear dry on the glass. Pierce..try about 5 - 10 more windows and not using a different cloth each time  the more you use the same cloth over and over (I use a sock  ) the better it works , no drying time, film floats as great as powder without the mess and if you feel the need for a (wet check) no need, as is squeegees down flat on the glass without relifting and spraying.
scottydosnntkno
Jul 4 2009, 07:34 AM
QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 4 2009, 05:48 AM) [*]699772[/*] QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 4 2009, 07:32 AM) [*]699769[/*] I tried the soap shrink just this week, and it was just not for me. seemed to not allow the film to float as much as a dryer sheet does... perhaps I just didnt have enough soap on the glass? Funny thing is..whenever I show someone the way I do it.it looks easy and is quick. When they do it ..it's new ..not just the procedure is new bu the soap is new, the cloth they are using is new. Sounds crazy, but I just replaced my cloth and ivory soap bar and now it succks  But I know after about using the cloth and bar of soap after a few more cars, the cloth will become embedded with dry soap making it so you need just a spritz of water on the cloth..just enough to make the ivory that's already on the cloth smear dry on the glass. Pierce..try about 5 - 10 more windows and not using a different cloth each time  the more you use the same cloth over and over (I use a sock  ) the better it works , no drying time, film floats as great as powder without the mess and if you feel the need for a (wet check) no need, as is squeegees down flat on the glass without relifting and spraying.  soak the cloth the first time, put the bar inside and rub it around until its all white and foamy  then wipe the lather on the window, and let it dry until you see no more wet spots, just a nice even haze.
pierce8468
Jul 5 2009, 06:34 AM
TW I will give it a try your way and see how it goes...
TintWizard
Jul 5 2009, 09:17 AM
TintWizard
Jul 5 2009, 09:22 AM
I don't know if it makes a difference or not, I only tack the film down on each side of the bg (not the H pattern as most do) I personally think it takes away from the "free flow" of where the film wants to shrink with ease..that's just me..but when heating with dual heatguns strapped together, I smooth the film down while wearing an oven mitt. Average heatshrink time 2-3 minutes for an average curved bg.
pierce8468
Jul 5 2009, 12:30 PM
I will try it that way as well... I am always game for trying something new!
TintWizard
Jul 5 2009, 02:19 PM
QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 5 2009, 03:30 PM) [*]700129[/*] I will try it that way as well... I am always game for trying something new! Coming from the heart I say this growing up in this biz going into 30 yrs : There are tips you"ll read that are not for you..a select that are..keep an open mind no matter ..you'll always be a better seasoned tinter than ones that are "ol shcool and and long in the tooth" but without the open mind. For every 50 tips that I disregard because I know of a better way or already know it, ther's the tip that floors me and I incorporate it to becoming a better /more efficiant tinter. sorry for rambling
tint123
Jul 5 2009, 02:44 PM
Having given the Ryk a shot, first was not worth crap, but each time I do it, seems to go a little better. As with anything, practice, practice, practice. I figure given enough tries, it will be second nature.
TintWizard
Jul 5 2009, 03:46 PM
QUOTE (tint123 @ Jul 5 2009, 05:44 PM) [*]700155[/*] Having given the Ryk a shot, first was not worth crap, but each time I do it, seems to go a little better. As with anything, practice, practice, practice. I figure given enough tries, it will be second nature. That's the attitude right there  Ithought I was the  when I was 25..I now Know I know less now then back then
justn8
Jul 5 2009, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 5 2009, 12:22 PM) [*]700116[/*] I don't know if it makes a difference or not, I only tack the film down on each side of the bg (not the H pattern as most do) I personally think it takes away from the "free flow" of where the film wants to shrink with ease..that's just me..but when heating with dual heatguns strapped together, I smooth the film down while wearing an oven mitt. Average heatshrink time 2-3 minutes for an average curved bg. I never thought of that. So do you still kind of 'imagine' an anchor line running left to right across the film between your two anchor points and shrink down/up from there roughly? I want to try it and am curious if I'm picturing it correctly.
TintWizard
Jul 5 2009, 07:18 PM
QUOTE (justn8 @ Jul 5 2009, 09:46 PM) [*]700169[/*] QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 5 2009, 12:22 PM) [*]700116[/*] I don't know if it makes a difference or not, I only tack the film down on each side of the bg (not the H pattern as most do) I personally think it takes away from the "free flow" of where the film wants to shrink with ease..that's just me..but when heating with dual heatguns strapped together, I smooth the film down while wearing an oven mitt. Average heatshrink time 2-3 minutes for an average curved bg. I never thought of that. So do you still kind of 'imagine' an anchor line running left to right across the film between your two anchor points and shrink down/up from there roughly? I want to try it and am curious if I'm picturing it correctly. Grasshoppers got it
scottydosnntkno
Jul 5 2009, 08:11 PM
QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 5 2009, 03:19 PM) [*]700141[/*] QUOTE (pierce8468 @ Jul 5 2009, 03:30 PM) [*]700129[/*] I will try it that way as well... I am always game for trying something new! Coming from the heart I say this growing up in this biz going into 30 yrs : There are tips you"ll read that are not for you..a select that are..keep an open mind no matter ..you'll always be a better seasoned tinter than ones that are "ol shcool and and long in the tooth" but without the open mind. For every 50 tips that I disregard because I know of a better way or already know it, ther's the tip that floors me and I incorporate it to becoming a better /more efficiant tinter. sorry for rambling   so many tips I got off here in the beginning caused me to F up SOO much film its not even funny. But those select few I got the hang of, they save me countless hours of time overall
justn8
Jul 5 2009, 09:50 PM
QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 5 2009, 10:18 PM) [*]700171[/*] QUOTE (justn8 @ Jul 5 2009, 09:46 PM) [*]700169[/*] QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 5 2009, 12:22 PM) [*]700116[/*] I don't know if it makes a difference or not, I only tack the film down on each side of the bg (not the H pattern as most do) I personally think it takes away from the "free flow" of where the film wants to shrink with ease..that's just me..but when heating with dual heatguns strapped together, I smooth the film down while wearing an oven mitt. Average heatshrink time 2-3 minutes for an average curved bg. I never thought of that. So do you still kind of 'imagine' an anchor line running left to right across the film between your two anchor points and shrink down/up from there roughly? I want to try it and am curious if I'm picturing it correctly. Grasshoppers got it  Haha might as well learn from the guy's who've spent decades figuring this out right?  I just wanted to know before I give it a go, I will tomorrow morning on an Accord. Thanks again TW!
sunlimitedCT
Jul 6 2009, 07:49 AM
QUOTE (TintWizard @ Jul 5 2009, 12:22 PM) [*]700116[/*] I don't know if it makes a difference or not, I only tack the film down on each side of the bg (not the H pattern as most do) I personally think it takes away from the "free flow" of where the film wants to shrink with ease..that's just me..but when heating with dual heatguns strapped together, I smooth the film down while wearing an oven mitt. Average heatshrink time 2-3 minutes for an average curved bg. I only tack the sides as well. I'll use a glove for b/g's with a more drastic curve, but most of the time I like a teflon black....
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