Questions regarding my newly installed tint

Hi guys, I had my tint installed last Tuesday. I decided on Madico charcool. It does look really good on my car. I have one question though. I have those little metallic specs in some areas on all my windows. I have never had this problem before with any tint. Is this normal? You can really see them, they are like little tiny dots. They are everywhere. They look like stone chips but they are not. Also, the upper part of my rear window has some darker areas. That's where my antenna is located. Is the tint still wet there? I will go back to the place where I had it done but I would like your input on this first. I tried to upload pictures but I couldn't get it to work. Any input is greatly appreciated.

You can upload pics into photobucket then post the link here. Its hard to show issues in tint with pictures. You could be describing specs of dust in the install but it could be numerous other things that might not be the installers fault.

Need A pic

Hope the pictures work.

Didn't work. Is there a thread somewhere on how to post pictures?

Yeah without a pic, hard to say. I will say I recently had a guy come back complaining about specs. I thought oh great, what did I do, get a windy day or something? So I look at it and it immediately doesn;t look like contamination and is hard to tell at first if it is on the inside or outside. It was almost shiney little dots. So I took steel wool to the outside and they came off. But it took some scrubbing. I still don;t know what that stuff was. It was a brand new car and did come from over seas.

Can't tell a thing about the 1st pic. The second is the dot matrix area on your car and it is normal for that area to look different. Quite honestly I think they did a great job with it.

I would go back to the installing shop and have them check it out....

There seems to be a little bit of excess contamination in the back glass.... the other pic is washed out with the flash...

I agree with TTS go back and give them a chance to check it out

Without seeing it up close and personal it looks like you have contamination around the two D/lines below the matrix and to answer your question the lighter and darker areas within the matrix can be due to the film still being wet in places.

I see hairs and all sort of crap in the pic with the flash! My wife even sees the junk..... On the one of the dots I see a ton of contamination below the dots as well!! That would not leave my shop....

I must be blind I can't see much. Thanks for makin me feel like a jerk guys!

No worries Larry.... Could be your monitor too... I know the one I have at home I can't see any detail on... But the shop monitor shows it all...

yea. Most Reps are........ ... That tint is full of dirt.

door glass looks dirty back glass is normal on the dots

this area is loaded is it not??

On the back window there is trash, on the side window, I dont see trash, but see lots of white specs on the outside of the glass. Looks like over spray. The job isnt horrible, but it would bother me if it was my car. Id take it back and get them to redo the bg. A few specs is normal, but not in a cluster like that.

yea there is but you will take the chance of not gettiing all the glue off. im not sure how easy madico comes off? but you may end up with a spec of glue here and there, at least if you take it back to the same shop?

Thanks for the replies. I will go back today and have them check it out. The thing is right after the installation it looked perfect, those specks were not there and I checked out my tint very carefully before I left the shop. Now that the film is dry there is just so much contamination. I don't mind a few specks here and there. I understand it's unavoidable but this is a little excessive. All my windows look like that. Also, I remember when they tinted my car it was quite windy that day. Without redoing the whole tint is there another way to get rid of those specks? Maybe hitting those areas with a heatgun? TIA.

No way to get rid of them without re-doing the windows.

Water can hide a lot.... although I bet the tinter knew what was there.....

If the whole car looks like that it would be a redo only if it were me.... Why would you want to settle for second best? Heating up the points of contamination might help it to look a little better but it will still be there.... it's a bit like trying to turn sh*t into sugar, can't be done!

JR mentioned possible residual adhesive if they were to remove the film..... if the tinter is worth his salt he won't leave adhesive behind no matter how long it takes

GOODLUCK!

Fresh Charcool is very easy to remove. Just bag it for maybe 20 minutes in the hot sun and it comes right off without any residual adhesive.

I just curious, did you take it to one of those low ball shops??? "bubble free $--" shops??? maybe someone else can elaborate.

Go get your money back and find a place that can do it better.That install looks HORRIBLE!I wouldn't trust the shop to do it any better the 2nd time around.

I wouldn't consider that install to be horrible. It looks much better than a lot of the shops work I've seen. How do we not know its not a 20 year old rust bucket? Or that he only paid $--? That BG is not really that bad. I bet if you were standing 5-6 ft away you wouldn't even be able to see those spots

20 Year old rust bucket or not that b/g is bad..... a cluster of contamination in the middle of the window? I think I would see from 5-6 feet away....

If that job is better than a lot of the work you've seen then I have to say that people in your area must have low standards

Sounds like that's the norm for scottyknowitall

I agree with tintwife. That work sucks! If it's an old car the sides may be dirty but not in the middle of the window. C'mon. If this job isn't horrible and it looks better than the work put out by shops near you then you guys have sub zero standards. I'm standing 10ft away from my monitor and I can still see the specs. Did he drop the film on the ground picked it up and put it on the glass. This is the kind of work shops around us do. That's why we're so busy. I had a guy come and he had a damn bug trapped between the film and his driver glass door to say the least of what the other windows looked like and he paid $-- for the job. I told him get his money back. It was like that bug in the bee movie when they got smacked on the windshield of the car. "help me!" And this is no joke, for real there was a freakin bug. And, all the installer could say was "I"m only human". What a loser.

The dirt in that back window is so bad I can feel it on my monitor, I could see that dirt if I was driving behind that car. Hell I might even see it if I was flying over it in a plane. So yea I think it is a half @ss tint job NO EXCUSE for that much dirt. Especially in the location of it.

In a plane here's the thought that prompted......


" Is that a new galaxy? no that's just a window tint"

shops in our area do have pretty low standards. they have full cars starting at $-- depending on the car claiming "lifetime warranty on all auto tints"


Maybe they were just starting in tinting? I find it hard to believe that you NEVER put out a window like that, because as others said water hides the dirt. I bet you didn't start putting out flawless work right away

Scotty, please stop posting prices.

It's full of crap..... "I bet if you were standing 5-6 ft away you wouldn't even be able to see those spots" What?

fast tint man and jarrett both have prices in their posts too

My car is not a 20 year old rust bucket, LOL. It’s a 2003 Camry Solar SLE V6 and it’s in beautiful condition, very clean inside and out.
I paid $---.00 for the job and they have been in business for a long time. I found them on the internet, they had good reviews
that’s why I picked them. I guess you can’t always trust those reviews. Anyway, I went back to the shop and the owner admitted
there was an excess amount of contamination on the driver’s side door so he redid it and guess what, it looks worse now. More
contamination than before, but at least it’s mostly on the edges of the glass and not right in the middle but still ,I am not happy. I didn’t want
him to redo the back window and he didn’t seem like he was going to anyways, because I was worried he was going to make it worse,
and I was probably right since the driver’s window looks worse now. Also, I found a few scratches on one of the little side windows in the back.
Those sratches are located towards the edge of the window and not in the middle at least, but still, you can see them when looking out the
window.
So, I would like to just have him take off the tint and get a refund and have someone here on the board do my tint. How would I go about
getting a refund? What if he refuses and tells me this is an acceptable tint job? What should I say to him? Any help is greatly appreciated.

getting a refund will be a hard thing to do if they are a reputable shop. I would calmly explain to them that you would like it redone, and to make sure that it is better this time. Unfortunately when you redo windows there is a good possibility that it won't look better than before.

You can't really force him to give you a refund as far as I know. I know personally i don't give refunds I just take care of this issue and thats that. Just talk with the shop and I'm sure you will be able to work something out. Shops always want their customer to be happy

You are right. It may take a few redos. That tint shop is located in a very windy area. Wind is blowing everywhere and they don't even shut their garage door when they are tinting, only halfway. I guess I'm just going to be at their shop every week, LOL. One other question. Do the cheaper tints hide dust and contamination better than the more expensive tints? Because I never had this problem with any other tints before. Had about 6 tints done before and I have used only the cheaper once.

Just explain to them your issues and they should than happy to work with you to make it right. they don't want you back there anymore than you want to be.

as for your question, yes and no. some cheaper films are thinner, so they would form around the dust better. However, in the same way nicer films are generally thicker with a thicker adhesive that will hide dust better. it all depends really

Thank you for your reply. So, do you think that Madico charcool is one of those films that show contamination more than other films when installed?

all films will show contamination equally.... The only way to not see it is to not get any of it..

People always ask me why they should choose our shop over another.... and this is exactly why.... Just because a place can put film on doesn't mean they can make it look good..

wish you the best..

I've never used mady products so I can't say

It's not the brand but the installer. I don't know how reputable this guy can be if he's in a very windy area and still chooses to do the work with the door half way open. You're just asking for dirt that way. We're in a place that can get windy sometimes and we close the garage door completely and everytime we use expensive films like ceramic. People are paying good money and they deserve to get quality every time; that's why we don't charge cheap. You get what you pay for but unfortunately you get posers that charge high knowing they do cheap work just to make it seem like they're worth it. So how do you know who's good or bad? Word of mouth. Don't trust the websites only because they can have their friends post positive comments. Our customer base is 80% referral/returning customers and we do the dealers in the area. That's a good one. Dealerships won't risk their customer service by dealing with bad installers. They put their name on the line too every time they sell a tint with their cars. Ask for the refund and see what happens. We see this all the time with the bad shops around us. Sometimes you get lucky and get your money other times you gotta go to court. Every time you go back to re-do it you take the chance of them cutting into your glass (if they do it by hand) or damaging your defrost by removing the film. It's up to you if you don't have anything better to do than to go back again and again to this place. Guarantee sooner or later you'll get fed up and not come back and that's what these shops know. The shop next to us does it all the time!! That's when we see the customer when they get fed up and move on. Good Luck.

Here is an update on my lousy tint job.
I went back to the tint shop with my boyfriend and we told the tint guy we are not happy with my tinted windows. There is just way to much contamination present.
He wouldn’t give me a refund but he offered to redo the windows I wasn’t happy with. That would be the back glass and also the driver side window and the window
behind it will be redone as well. I am going to tape the ceiling of my car with a plastic cover and also the rear deck to keep contamination to a minimum. Is it okay
to put clean bed sheets on my rear leather seats? I don’t want my seats to get messed up. Is there anything else I can do besides cleaning the interior very thoroughly? TIA

you shouldn't have to do that before you take your car in. Yes it does help to have a clean car before you take in but you shouldn't have to take those type of measures so the installer that you are paying can do a good job and it is perfectly okay to be picky about the tint job. Sometimes as installer we get some cars that we have to do extra work to get it as clean as possible but that is just apart of the job. If a car is extremely dirty to where I have to do a lot of extra work I charge for it. But I let the customer know that is what it is gonna take to get it done right.

The spots on the side window could be paint or something like that? If you notice, you'll see that they are also on the gasket/door... Idk though

The spots on the side windows is not paint. It's contamination. I clayed the outside of all my windows after the tint install just to check if it was overspray.
I wish I didn't have to take all these drastic measures before this tint job but this guy is not very professional and obviously not very carefull when applying the tint. Otherwise I wouldn't have all that contamination. I can't afford to have it redone by someone else, so unfortunately I'll have to take all these steps for the tint to come out halfway decent. And I am not picky about the tint job at all. One other window has some sratches but I will leave that one alone because I don't care about those. Take a closer look at the picture I posted of my BG. I've had 3 tint jobs done before on different cars and never did anything to the cars before taking them in and they all came out great. Anyhow, you guys didn't answer my question, LOL. Is it okay to use a bed sheet on my back leather seats during the tint install? TIA

I use towels during my installs of a BG but i dont see why a bedsheet would be a problem, so long as it was clean. And the reason i wasing saying the paint was because just this weekend my uncle had paint on his back window of his truck and it looked exactly like that, and i knew wasn't in the tint because i did the install several months ago... Anyways it was a simple fix with water and a razor on the outside

man this guy sucks

First pic at the bottom around 6-7 oclock There is a 2inch crease or hair.. Yes it happens to all of us but I just chalk it up and re do it before it leaves the shop.. I once had a car with so much dog hair all over the inside of the car it was a nightmare. Took me 4 tries to get the back glass right. The custy even laughed when he walked back in to pick up his car. "Hope the dogg hair wasnt a PITA" I almost strangled him cause it was 103 outside that day and i was about to die of heat exhaustion.

i think thats a reflection of something because if you look close it goes OVER the defroster on the outside