oldschool truck backglasses
Mdog
Dec 27 2003, 10:48 AM
Alot of newbie tinters have never had to deal with the old style rubber gaskets on truck backgalsses. many newbies get light gaps around the glass because the pattern is not but big enough.
this is a way to cut the film and use it instead of making a pattern from it.
you can effectively make the pattern bigger doing it this way.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- start cutting at the middle of the corner at the #1 and cut around to the #2 stop cutting right in the middle of the curve at #2.
now loosen your pattern up and slide it up and to the right about a 1/8th inch both ways
start at #4 now and cut the bottom all the way to #5 at the top.
you have now made your pattern WIDER and TALLER slightly.
all you need to do now is trim the gasket on the inside and make a channel around the glass to accept the larger pattern and you have NO light gaps. with practice and experience yoiu will figure how big to make the patterns and how much rubber gasket to trim to accept the pattern.
there are a couple different variotions on this method and they all work.
TintWizard
Dec 27 2003, 12:25 PM
MDOG'S way is a great way to do it ... when you cut out the rubber , your getting rid of yrs of dirt and debris as well...I personally use as little solution as possible when installing these and towel out thetop & bottom as quick as possible on these because of the water channel created can backwash dirt into the tint otherwise.
nwflboy
Dec 27 2003, 01:57 PM
Or you COULD just remove the window (it'll clean-up better that way), clean the glass, peel & lay your film, then trim the excess leaving 1/16th gap from the edge, let dry & re-install. This works MOST of the time without a hitch. Be observant first as to any excessive weathering of the gasket - it may need replacing due to it's deterioration so you may need to have a new gasket on hand (an up charge, of course).
Mdog
Dec 27 2003, 03:02 PM
on those crusty seals i trim the gasket and go around the area where the gasket was and dry scrape it with a razor blade, i get all that crap loose then i blow it all out with a air hose  then i clean it like normal. getting all that loose sh!t out before yoiu wet it down works great.
TintWizard
Dec 27 2003, 03:05 PM
(MDOG @ Dec 27 2003, 05:02 PM) i get all that crap loose then i blow it all out with a air hose this is true...I have to get myself one of those someday
tintslut
Dec 27 2003, 05:03 PM
mdog, WTF are you trying to do to me???? Jinxed me bad today. 89 Bronco 2, rear glass with defroster, crusty as a junkyard beater, no amount of seal trimmin to get the crust out. Lets see, I havent seen one of these in 6 years. I used a blowgun nozzle and air ho's, just to get it marginally clean. Here wishin a non -turbo beetle to you .
TintDude
Dec 27 2003, 05:11 PM
Nice job  TOTW
Mdog
Dec 27 2003, 05:20 PM
oh man those bronco 2 suck ass
thetintshop
Dec 27 2003, 09:54 PM
nothing wrond with mdogs way, but i pull all glasses that are gasket set. nearly all are easy to pull. especially the new ford 3/4 ton and 1 tons, basically just have to push on it with your hand and it pops out, cause basically, it's a piece of sh!t. clean it up and lay the film on, trim it about 1/2 inch from the edge, comes out basically dirt and contamination free. let it set and dry while you do the rest of the truck and then just rope it back in when you're done. dirt free and zero light gaps. the only ones i've found to be a pain are the older fords, where you have to loosen some of the trim on the sides of the glass and remove the top trim. the rest are easy. the only ones i've found i have to replace the gasket nearly every time are the 67-72 chevy trucks. but the ones that come in here are always nice and the guys don't mind shelling out $60 for a new gasket.
Mr paladin
Dec 27 2003, 09:57 PM
I always leave a nice long piece of cut rubber laying around in the car
Zrok
Dec 28 2003, 06:08 AM
TTS do you rope those back in by yourself or have a helper?? i usually need a helper in the bed of the truck to push on it as i'm pullin on the rope (BOY does that sound bad)
Zrok
Dec 28 2003, 06:09 AM
(Mr paladin @ Dec 27 2003, 09:57 PM) I always leave a nice long piece of cut rubber laying around in the car  spare parts to make the truck lighter and save on fuel economy  the cust will love you for it
TintWizard
Dec 28 2003, 08:00 AM
(zrokewl24 @ Dec 28 2003, 08:08 AM) i usually need a helper in the bed of the truck to push on it as i'm pullin on the rope (BOY does that sound bad) 
Mdog
Dec 28 2003, 08:04 AM
thetintshop
Dec 28 2003, 08:21 AM
(zrokewl24 @ Dec 28 2003, 07:08 AM) TTS do you rope those back in by yourself or have a helper?? i usually need a helper in the bed of the truck to push on it as i'm pullin on the rope (BOY does that sound bad)  the only time i need a helper is if it's an extended cab and i can't hold the glass and reach inside at the same time. the rest of the time i do it by myself. if i'm by myself and don't have anyone to help me, i set the glass up there and tape it down on the four corners and then get inside and pull the rope.
captaintinter
Dec 29 2003, 03:42 AM
Use nikko pen to run around the rubber take film of glass and cut to outside line and no gaps>
Sprinter
Dec 29 2003, 09:23 AM
both good ideas! mdog's and captiantinter!
mylude90
Jan 8 2004, 05:21 PM
hey tts, or anyone else, i've never pulled a window where you can " rope" it to put it back in, i have a pretty good idea of what you mean but could you go into a little more depth? thanks
Zrok
Jan 9 2004, 05:00 AM
'95 F-150 back glass is gasket set, you can just push it out, then when finished and somewhat dry, rope the gasket back into the truck with the glass installed in the gasket already  if you've never done it you may need a helper or two
thetintshop
Jan 9 2004, 10:32 AM
(mylude90 @ Jan 8 2004, 06:21 PM) hey tts, or anyone else, i've never pulled a window where you can " rope" it to put it back in, i have a pretty good idea of what you mean but could you go into a little more depth?  nope. sorry. my tip giving days are over.
Blade
Jan 9 2004, 12:30 PM
denied......
Protint
Jan 9 2004, 01:04 PM
I just started pulling those (80's style toyota trucks and Jeep cherokees) out a couple of years ago. Little more work but I feel worth the effort like pulling the quarters on a 03 Accord 4door.
thetintshop
Jan 9 2004, 03:26 PM
(Protint @ Jan 9 2004, 02:04 PM) I just started pulling those (80's style toyota trucks and Jeep cherokees) out a couple of years ago. Little more work but I feel worth the effort like pulling the quarters on a 03 Accord 4door. you're exactly right pro. i'd rather work an extra 15-30 minutes to have a damn near flawless job than have lines that can be seek on the outside. i can ALWAYS look at a gasket set glass and tell if the tinter took the glass out or not. if i worked on comission, i probably wouldn't pull it cause i'd be getting the same pay. but since i own my own business, quality is first and foremost. and i charge for it too.
Protint
Jan 9 2004, 03:39 PM
if i worked on comission, i probably wouldn't pull it cause i'd be getting the same pay. but since i own my own business, quality is first and foremost. and i charge for it too. Totally agree with that G.
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