I've had enough of this sungard shadow

hi, I recently moved from Europe to Canada. I was mostly using Lumar AT series films, which I was quite pleased with. after settling on this side, for pure convenience (distributor near by), I went with sungard shadow serie.
what a pain to work with that stuff. close to half of my roll must have ended up in the garbage. I hate the way it shrinks (or doesn't!), I get tiny creases (liner quality maybe) that look like hair line once on the window, once in contact with the window there is no slip, stopped using squeegees with handles cause the film did not seem to handle it and last but not least have the hardest time to get a clean edge on back windows. I'M DONE!
anyone else encountered the same type of annoyance? thanks for sharing your experience and giving me same heads up on different makes.

the film is awesome in my opinion just a lil high in pricing sounds like you just dont know how to work with the film installer era not the film!!!!!!!

must be that !!!!!!!

Some have encounter some problems with it..but i have not.

Where in Europe are you from originally?

I am from Switzerland originally

I have heard good things about the lava serie. I will give it a shot

Mmm... My wife is Swiss

No Sunguard does suck . And it will always suck

sungard=dog poop..always has.always will

that is your opinion...and you are entitled to it...some may disagree and have made a good living off their film with no problems.

and some have been burnt really bad by it..

sunguard isnt too bad, its like any other film, it takes getting used to and theres always different techniques for application.

I have made a good living off of it too. From redoing alot of cars with Sungard. I can't remember which line the guy used at my dealers. Think it was an HP line. I've had to redo at least 100. They all did the same thing. Back window would finger on the sides and ofcourse the pressure marks on the top of the rollups.

Pressure marks on top edge of rollups, that's more than just a SunGard problem. I've seen that with Solar-Guard, SunTek, Lulu, etc. especially if the film was shaved.

Oh yeah I know it is a problem with other films. I see it alot. Especially Solargard

BE CAREFUL guys. My experience on this forum is that the faithful Sungard "fan base" will nearly incite a riot if you even remotely talk against it.

They are incredibly loyal - which puzzles me.

I'm no SunGard groupie, and they slammed me once for only sharing what I had heard, which I had to carefully retract as only "hear-say"

i use sun gard only for the residential and commercial film its great for me but the sample of shadow film i got from the rep back when they came back to life with new company didn't like cause color looked green when applied to car .

i'll stick with what i use for my auto installs soltek 9 years and running i only use hp 35 and hp 20 lifetime warranty for never had anyone call me for a install that has faded

The Shadow does have a green hue to it. i compared the Shadow 5% next to SunTek 5% and their dead on same color.

sun guard does kinda suck.expensive.hard to shrink.and you have to buy a minimum quarter rollat least.let say color film is not really popular.a cusotmer call you up and wants his car tinted yellow.may be one in million.you have to go there to buy a quarter roll of that yellow film.then what?take all your space.that s ridiculor.

Tell me about it... the warranty problems I've had have made my fur go mange.
The crap should have all had a major recall worldwide.
Devil

i just got my sample of the shadow 20 in this week. never really looked at it but im gonna try it out and see for myself. whats the price comparison with carbon, anyone know?

I moved over from Johnsons Greystone to Sunguard Shadow, Experiencing all the problems you lot are. And having loads of warranty issues.

Welcome to the real world of muck.
devil

I thought sunguard when out of business?? a few years ago???

i dont know the entire story in detail, but they went out of business and we resurected by some chinese man who has alot of money. i dont know for sure if they are up to the same old ways or actually trying new things. time will tell.

A month late to the party, but I'm having the exact issues with LLumar ATC film recently. Didn't happen a year ago and now it's almost every install.

Puzzles me as well.....why is everyone so eager to jump back on the bandwagon? I don't get it....tried a sample of the "all new" Black Lava, didn't like it. First of all,if it's all new, why does it have that smell? You know, the same "Sungard" smell, smells just like the old glue. Second, it didn't shrink that well, I don't see doing a bug in one piece with it (maybe).

So, what is it???

funny thing is I don't have to say anything If I do I would be acting childish and immature according to another person who only post on threads like this one
good luck guys and do your homework before using any film
cheers
Stan