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bbsb1970

Hey folks,

Had 2 rear sides (with quarters) and back screen tinted earlier today. The back's good, as well as the sides. But I'm not 100% happy with the quarters. I can see pen marks around each quarter (so that's 2 quarters I'm not happy with). I wasn't expecting that. Are such pen marking normal? I thought that sides are merely cut, with no pen markings. Do pros use pen markings? How should I deal with this? Please let me know how I should approach this. The tint dude was professional and courteous. I'm just a perfectionist. Cost me 220 euros. (Here in Finland.)
TTS
Take it back to the shop and ask them.... They'll probably take care of it for ya.. beer.gif
bbsb1970
QUOTE (TTS @ Jul 6 2009, 12:17 PM) [*]700330[/*]
Take it back to the shop and ask them.... They'll probably take care of it for ya.. beer.gif


Thanks for the reply. I just hate having to ask somebody (who is a pro) to correct work. I really thought the work would be faultless. How long, on average, will the quarters' removal take for him to do? -- that's 2 quarters total. What's that process involve, and how long, on average, will it take him to put new film in there on the quarters?

Btw, I had LLumar Dark Titanium tint 15% put in for the sides and back.
bbsb1970

Should I be able to see pen markings on the quarter window' film edges, or am I asking for too much? Just want to be reasonable and know what I can reasonably expect. I guess I expected such markings to be hidden. How do you pros do it? Do you mark with a pen, or just use your blades? Please advise on this, and the previous question.

Humbly,
BB
Booms2Go
Sometimes they will outline the pattern with a marker...thus reducing the chance for the blade to scratch the glass.....can u see the pen marking from the outside?
bbsb1970
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Jul 6 2009, 12:35 PM) [*]700339[/*]
Sometimes they will outline the pattern with a marker...thus reducing the chance for the blade to scratch the glass.....can u see the pen marking from the outside?

Cheers for the reply. Actually, i can't see the markings from the outside, but just from the inside, on those quarters. And, from what I can see, the other windows he did (the sides and back) had no such markings.

What do you think?
Booms2Go
On smaller pieces of film its much easier to outline the pattern and then cut it out. If Your really unhappy, take it back and have them redo it. If its not that noticeable, leave it alone, and in a week or two take some soap and water to it gently.
Booms2Go
Can You take a pic? Much easier to diagnose.
bbsb1970
Ok, I think I'll ask them re-do those sides (what's perfect/not perfect is so subjective), but anybody know if this will be a lengthy job? (Because of removing tint, then re-cleaning the quarters, and then applying new tint to those quarters.) Need to know because I'm guessing now this corrective work will have to be done after I come back from vacation with the car - perhaps the tint dude won't have time before I leave next Monday.
bbsb1970
Ok, I'll take a pic tomorrow. Night here now. Hope to post the pic tomorrow for all to see. Thanks for your thoughts, Board members.
bbsb1970
When I said "Board Members", of course I meant Booms2Go. Thanks, mate. 'Til tomorrow's pics, therefore.
TTS
You are asking questions that only the shop you are going to can answer..

Everybody tints differenty

Everybody tints at different rates of speed

So the only logical person that can answer your questions is the installing shop...

or do you want to be anygy with them ??? If they did (in your opinion) a nice job on the other windows.. they should have the ability to do a nice job on your quarters twocents.gif

QUOTE (bbsb1970 @ Jul 6 2009, 12:25 PM) [*]700333[/*]
QUOTE (TTS @ Jul 6 2009, 12:17 PM) [*]700330[/*]
Take it back to the shop and ask them.... They'll probably take care of it for ya.. beer.gif


Thanks for the reply. I just hate having to ask somebody (who is a pro) to correct work. I really thought the work would be faultless. How long, on average, will the quarters' removal take for him to do? -- that's 2 quarters total. What's that process involve, and how long, on average, will it take him to put new film in there on the quarters?

Btw, I had LLumar Dark Titanium tint 15% put in for the sides and back.



You've never made a mistake at your job ??? dunno.gif
watchdaride
QUOTE (bbsb1970 @ Jul 6 2009, 12:08 PM) [*]700326[/*]
Hey folks,

Had 2 rear sides (with quarters) and back screen tinted earlier today. The back's good, as well as the sides. But I'm not 100% happy with the quarters. I can see pen marks around each quarter (so that's 2 quarters I'm not happy with). I wasn't expecting that. Are such pen marking normal? I thought that sides are merely cut, with no pen markings. Do pros use pen markings? How should I deal with this? Please let me know how I should approach this. The tint dude was professional and courteous. I'm just a perfectionist. Cost me 220 euros. (Here in Finland.)


220 euros . Isnt that like $400 US . Is that the regular price or a high end shop for that area ?
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (bbsb1970 @ Jul 6 2009, 01:46 PM) [*]700344[/*]
Ok, I think I'll ask them re-do those sides (what's perfect/not perfect is so subjective), but anybody know if this will be a lengthy job? (Because of removing tint, then re-cleaning the quarters, and then applying new tint to those quarters.) Need to know because I'm guessing now this corrective work will have to be done after I come back from vacation with the car - perhaps the tint dude won't have time before I leave next Monday.

to strip and retint the quarters should be like 30 minutes, tops.

as for the pen marks, is it to cover the very slight light gaps that would otherwise be on the inside? On some vehicles, especially the quarters the way the glass and seals are, if you didn't use an opaquer you would have a very slight light gap otherwise, which the black pen covers. If it really bothers you that much looking from the inside, then take it back. But really, who looks at their quarter glass, especially from the inside? hmmmmmmm.gif
I-tinted-the-pyramids
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 7 2009, 09:25 AM) [*]700647[/*]
QUOTE (bbsb1970 @ Jul 6 2009, 01:46 PM) [*]700344[/*]
Ok, I think I'll ask them re-do those sides (what's perfect/not perfect is so subjective), but anybody know if this will be a lengthy job? (Because of removing tint, then re-cleaning the quarters, and then applying new tint to those quarters.) Need to know because I'm guessing now this corrective work will have to be done after I come back from vacation with the car - perhaps the tint dude won't have time before I leave next Monday.

to strip and retint the quarters should be like 30 minutes, tops.

as for the pen marks, is it to cover the very slight light gaps that would otherwise be on the inside? On some vehicles, especially the quarters the way the glass and seals are, if you didn't use an opaquer you would have a very slight light gap otherwise, which the black pen covers. If it really bothers you that much looking from the inside, then take it back. But really, who looks at their quarter glass, especially from the inside? hmmmmmmm.gif

I'd like to see a picture. I am wondering what exactly it is as well.
darrin1
if its covering a light gap my opinion is that it needs to be redone. qtrs can be cut to fit with gaps that don't show light.
mcpcola
QUOTE (watchdaride @ Jul 6 2009, 05:12 PM) [*]700383[/*]
QUOTE (bbsb1970 @ Jul 6 2009, 12:08 PM) [*]700326[/*]
Hey folks,

Had 2 rear sides (with quarters) and back screen tinted earlier today. The back's good, as well as the sides. But I'm not 100% happy with the quarters. I can see pen marks around each quarter (so that's 2 quarters I'm not happy with). I wasn't expecting that. Are such pen marking normal? I thought that sides are merely cut, with no pen markings. Do pros use pen markings? How should I deal with this? Please let me know how I should approach this. The tint dude was professional and courteous. I'm just a perfectionist. Cost me 220 euros. (Here in Finland.)


220 euros . Isnt that like $400 US . Is that the regular price or a high end shop for that area ?



Its 308.41 US Dollars
Booms2Go
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:36 AM) [*]700675[/*]
if its covering a light gap my opinion is that it needs to be redone. qtrs can be cut to fit with gaps that don't show light.

Word.... thumb.gif I had an opaquer for about 5 minutes once. Looks like AZZ when its applied. Threw it in the trash. twocents.gif
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Jul 7 2009, 10:29 AM) [*]700709[/*]
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:36 AM) [*]700675[/*]
if its covering a light gap my opinion is that it needs to be redone. qtrs can be cut to fit with gaps that don't show light.

Word.... thumb.gif I had an opaquer for about 5 minutes once. Looks like AZZ when its applied. Threw it in the trash. twocents.gif

if you know how to use it correctly you can't tell unless you know. I don't use a "film opaquer" per se, I use a flat black fine line enamel paint pen from a craft store. Much "thicker" i guess you could say coverage, so its just black, no light spots.

Just like any tool, there is a time and a place for it.
darrin1
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 7 2009, 12:50 PM) [*]700736[/*]
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Jul 7 2009, 10:29 AM) [*]700709[/*]
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:36 AM) [*]700675[/*]
if its covering a light gap my opinion is that it needs to be redone. qtrs can be cut to fit with gaps that don't show light.

Word.... thumb.gif I had an opaquer for about 5 minutes once. Looks like AZZ when its applied. Threw it in the trash. twocents.gif

if you know how to use it correctly you can't tell unless you know. I don't use a "film opaquer" per se, I use a flat black fine line enamel paint pen from a craft store. Much "thicker" i guess you could say coverage, so its just black, no light spots.

Just like any tool, there is a time and a place for it.


justify it any way you want, you're still trying to cover up a miscut.
Booms2Go
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 04:23 PM) [*]700746[/*]
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 7 2009, 12:50 PM) [*]700736[/*]
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Jul 7 2009, 10:29 AM) [*]700709[/*]
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:36 AM) [*]700675[/*]
if its covering a light gap my opinion is that it needs to be redone. qtrs can be cut to fit with gaps that don't show light.

Word.... thumb.gif I had an opaquer for about 5 minutes once. Looks like AZZ when its applied. Threw it in the trash. twocents.gif

if you know how to use it correctly you can't tell unless you know. I don't use a "film opaquer" per se, I use a flat black fine line enamel paint pen from a craft store. Much "thicker" i guess you could say coverage, so its just black, no light spots.

Just like any tool, there is a time and a place for it.


justify it any way you want, you're still trying to cover up a miscut.

Word... thumb.gif
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 01:23 PM) [*]700746[/*]
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 7 2009, 12:50 PM) [*]700736[/*]
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Jul 7 2009, 10:29 AM) [*]700709[/*]
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:36 AM) [*]700675[/*]
if its covering a light gap my opinion is that it needs to be redone. qtrs can be cut to fit with gaps that don't show light.

Word.... thumb.gif I had an opaquer for about 5 minutes once. Looks like AZZ when its applied. Threw it in the trash. twocents.gif

if you know how to use it correctly you can't tell unless you know. I don't use a "film opaquer" per se, I use a flat black fine line enamel paint pen from a craft store. Much "thicker" i guess you could say coverage, so its just black, no light spots.

Just like any tool, there is a time and a place for it.


justify it any way you want, you're still trying to cover up a miscut.

Stan uses one in his videos lol2.gif Its a TOOL, it has its place. Get over it
mcpcola
All this over a little pen LOL
darrin1
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 8 2009, 07:11 AM) [*]700910[/*]
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 01:23 PM) [*]700746[/*]
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 7 2009, 12:50 PM) [*]700736[/*]
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Jul 7 2009, 10:29 AM) [*]700709[/*]
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:36 AM) [*]700675[/*]
if its covering a light gap my opinion is that it needs to be redone. qtrs can be cut to fit with gaps that don't show light.

Word.... thumb.gif I had an opaquer for about 5 minutes once. Looks like AZZ when its applied. Threw it in the trash. twocents.gif

if you know how to use it correctly you can't tell unless you know. I don't use a "film opaquer" per se, I use a flat black fine line enamel paint pen from a craft store. Much "thicker" i guess you could say coverage, so its just black, no light spots.

Just like any tool, there is a time and a place for it.


justify it any way you want, you're still trying to cover up a miscut.

Stan uses one in his videos lol2.gif Its a TOOL, it has its place. Get over it


idgaf, i'll tell stan the same thing.
micro-edge
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 8 2009, 10:48 AM) [*]700933[/*]
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 8 2009, 07:11 AM) [*]700910[/*]
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 01:23 PM) [*]700746[/*]
QUOTE (scottydosnntkno @ Jul 7 2009, 12:50 PM) [*]700736[/*]
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Jul 7 2009, 10:29 AM) [*]700709[/*]
QUOTE (darrin1 @ Jul 7 2009, 11:36 AM) [*]700675[/*]
if its covering a light gap my opinion is that it needs to be redone. qtrs can be cut to fit with gaps that don't show light.

Word.... thumb.gif I had an opaquer for about 5 minutes once. Looks like AZZ when its applied. Threw it in the trash. twocents.gif

if you know how to use it correctly you can't tell unless you know. I don't use a "film opaquer" per se, I use a flat black fine line enamel paint pen from a craft store. Much "thicker" i guess you could say coverage, so its just black, no light spots.

Just like any tool, there is a time and a place for it.


justify it any way you want, you're still trying to cover up a miscut.

Stan uses one in his videos lol2.gif Its a TOOL, it has its place. Get over it


idgaf, i'll tell stan the same thing.


spit.gif bingo.gif

tint123
Did he say what the year, make and model of the car was ?
I see Dealer done Fusions here all the time where the film does not cover the entire quarter....
Booms2Go
QUOTE (tint123 @ Jul 8 2009, 06:35 PM) [*]701086[/*]
Did he say what the year, make and model of the car was ?
I see Dealer done Fusions here all the time where the film does not cover the entire quarter....

Hacks
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (tint123 @ Jul 8 2009, 04:35 PM) [*]701086[/*]
Did he say what the year, make and model of the car was ?
I see Dealer done Fusions here all the time where the film does not cover the entire quarter....

Im the only shop around here who does the whole thing dunno.gif Also the only one who glues the dots beer.gif
nctinter
Hey man I used an opaquer the other day. I did a Escalade with 5 all around. I think the film shifted a tiny bit on the back glass when I put it on. I pulled it into the sun and noticed the tiniest little sliver of light cuz the truck was blacked out. I wasn't gonna redo the back glass for that. And anyone that does is pretty much retarded.
scottydosnntkno
QUOTE (nctinter @ Jul 8 2009, 06:21 PM) [*]701190[/*]
Hey man I used an opaquer the other day. I did a Escalade with 5 all around. I think the film shifted a tiny bit on the back glass when I put it on. I pulled it into the sun and noticed the tiniest little sliver of light cuz the truck was blacked out. I wasn't gonna redo the back glass for that. And anyone that does is pretty much retarded.

bingo.gif exactly. I had the same thing happen today on a BG, it was not even 1/2"x1/32" in the very bottom right corner, and I don't think anyones going to redo a WHOLE window for just that. If they do, its stupid
nctinter
update...my escalade came back for a problem with his tint. It was not the back where the opaquer was used though. The pass door had a couple dust specs. I heated them up and he was happy. So he checked it over really good..well he said his wife did. And no mention of the black paint
darrin1








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