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justincredible
okay I know I am from Canada but it's a small world so does anyone know of a tinting school? I know about the dvd's. The reason I ask is a couple of our dealers or taking ppf inhouse and the word in the wind is they are trying to train tinters. NO ONE around here will train new tinters. But can they find a tint school somewhere?
thatsnappyguy
contact stan foster, or phillip at solar control distributors for global window films. they just opened a new tint school in st louis.
one slick tinter
Take a vacation out east, I'll train ya.
flat rock stan
(thatsnappyguy @ Jul 23 2009, 09:53 PM) [*]705365[/*]
contact stan foster, or phillip at solar control distributors for global window films. they just opened a new tint school in st louis.

Thanks Mr. Snappy beer.gif Take the plunge and come see me in Portland or St. Louis! I have had several Canadians come down for training, Blazux came about 2 years ago.
Cheers and hang in there
Stan
lilDetails
(justincredible @ Jul 23 2009, 11:49 PM) [*]705363[/*]
okay I know I am from Canada but it's a small world so does anyone know of a tinting school? I know about the dvd's. The reason I ask is a couple of our dealers or taking ppf inhouse and the word in the wind is they are trying to train tinters. NO ONE around here will train new tinters. But can they find a tint school somewhere?


I guess you get the answer is YES, they can find a tinting school....
mcpcola
Did everyone miss what he is asking?
Booms2Go
I'm somewhat confused myself.... gasp.gif
mcpcola
He is talking about a dealer account that is trying to cut him out and do it them selfs
flat rock stan
(mcpcola @ Jul 24 2009, 01:43 PM) [*]705477[/*]
Did everyone miss what he is asking?

grinning_and_saying_no.gif just saying we are here beer.gif In-house is the latest thing. I get calls all the time from dealers but most don't want employees to learn hand cut. success rate is not as high as students who want to start out on their own............. motivation is the key. Set yourself apart from the dealers. Dealers are going after several professions since cars are not selling. Got one here selling exercise bikes and cars. I was reading a oil change industry magazine last month and dealerships are going after their business too.
watchdaride
(justincredible @ Jul 23 2009, 09:49 PM) [*]705363[/*]
okay I know I am from Canada but it's a small world so does anyone know of a tinting school? I know about the dvd's. The reason I ask is a couple of our dealers or taking ppf inhouse and the word in the wind is they are trying to train tinters. NO ONE around here will train new tinters. But can they find a tint school somewhere?


dealer dont usually have the volume to keep an experienced installer. And you cant learn a trade in a week end course. they will call you back once they screw up a couple of cars .
VIP tint + glass
what they do is they find a tint manu. to use. then they send a porter to their school, where they will also be taught to use their plotter and run all the software.
Booms2Go
(VIP tint + glass @ Jul 26 2009, 12:22 AM) [*]705700[/*]
what they do is they find a tint manu. to use. then they send a porter to their school, where they will also be taught to use their plotter and run all the software.

And believe Me, 99.5% of the time that does not work out to well! Thats the failed logic going on that people who DON'T tint, think You can train ANYONE to tint. Just aint so. twocents.gif
Booms2Go
(watchdaride @ Jul 25 2009, 09:31 PM) [*]705680[/*]
dealer dont usually have the volume to keep an experienced installer.

We sell over 500 cars A month from our 3 franchises. Every salesmen has a Tint display at his desk, and so do the finace people. We also sell tint off the service drive. And every showroom car gets tinted. I'm plenty busy! icon_mrgreen.gif
watchdaride
(Booms2Go @ Jul 26 2009, 02:51 AM) [*]705713[/*]
(watchdaride @ Jul 25 2009, 09:31 PM) [*]705680[/*]
dealer dont usually have the volume to keep an experienced installer.

We sell over 500 cars A month from our 3 franchises. Every salesmen has a Tint display at his desk, and so do the finace people. We also sell tint off the service drive. And every showroom car gets tinted. I'm plenty busy! icon_mrgreen.gif



are you an employee of the dealership. I just find the sales people rather sell other stuff ie leather navigation because of higher commisions . if you got them to push it that much you got your self a good gig.
lilDetails
(Booms2Go @ Jul 26 2009, 04:51 AM) [*]705713[/*]
(watchdaride @ Jul 25 2009, 09:31 PM) [*]705680[/*]
dealer dont usually have the volume to keep an experienced installer.

We sell over 500 cars A month from our 3 franchises. Every salesmen has a Tint display at his desk, and so do the finace people. We also sell tint off the service drive. And every showroom car gets tinted. I'm plenty busy! icon_mrgreen.gif


how many employees do you have? That is a lot of cars to be tinting....
Booms2Go
(lilDetails @ Jul 26 2009, 12:20 PM) [*]705754[/*]
(Booms2Go @ Jul 26 2009, 04:51 AM) [*]705713[/*]
(watchdaride @ Jul 25 2009, 09:31 PM) [*]705680[/*]
dealer dont usually have the volume to keep an experienced installer.

We sell over 500 cars A month from our 3 franchises. Every salesmen has a Tint display at his desk, and so do the finace people. We also sell tint off the service drive. And every showroom car gets tinted. I'm plenty busy! icon_mrgreen.gif


how many employees do you have? That is a lot of cars to be tinting....

We don't tint all 500 a month.....about a 100 a month give or take. Salesmen get spiffs off of tint sold, as do service writers.
mcpcola
Dude sounds like a dream come true
Booms2Go
Its a lot of work....but I do have some slow days once in awhile. thumb.gif And an hour for lunch everyday, so I can peruse TD! Flaugh.gif
sunlimitedCT
(Booms2Go @ Jul 26 2009, 03:57 PM) [*]705791[/*]
(lilDetails @ Jul 26 2009, 12:20 PM) [*]705754[/*]
(Booms2Go @ Jul 26 2009, 04:51 AM) [*]705713[/*]
(watchdaride @ Jul 25 2009, 09:31 PM) [*]705680[/*]
dealer dont usually have the volume to keep an experienced installer.

We sell over 500 cars A month from our 3 franchises. Every salesmen has a Tint display at his desk, and so do the finace people. We also sell tint off the service drive. And every showroom car gets tinted. I'm plenty busy! icon_mrgreen.gif


how many employees do you have? That is a lot of cars to be tinting....

We don't tint all 500 a month.....about a 100 a month give or take. Salesmen get spiffs off of tint sold, as do service writers.



Which is fine for a skilled tinter...Booms, don't know your background but I'm willing to bet you knew how to tint prior to being hired there. The problem comes in when dealers take "Joe the carlot guy" and make him a tinter...If dealers are gopnna hire experienced installers, great....but when you take anyone, send to a 2 week course, and expect a quality job, you run into problems twocents.gif
Booms2Go
I was hired after they brought in DigiTint and failed miserably. They tried to train the Chick who answered the phones gasp.gif in service! inot.gif Subsequently they tried three other people, because there Digi rep told them they could train "Anyone" Whatever! I been doing this for awhile...they love the fact they can bring Me a car and not have to worry about it. I have had some comebacks from the other people they tried, and You would NOT believe what they were sending down the road! Flaugh.gif
sunlimitedCT
I'd abslolutely believe it. I've seen some digi jobs, and it's all lick and stick. The toyota dealership by me had someone they trained in house. We went to buy my wife a car, Scion TC, they offer all kinds of accessories, so the salesman says well how about tint, my wife just looked at me, I asked how much it would be, $429 spit.gif ...I laughed at the guy, told him how much actual material was, and what I noticed about the xb they had in the showroom ( terrible job on the 2 front ), and explained I'd do it myself...
flat rock stan
How would digi work if a real tinter put it up? dunno.gif
Booms2Go
I had the "pleasure" of installing a few kits they had left over, and wanted to get rid of.... evileye.gif

1) Rear glass "preshrunk" gasp.gif Bottom of the film rolls up upon installation....peanuts/maggots everywhere on the defrosters...cut about 1" to big all around so that the Noobs don't have to worry about light gaps, but makes it a PAIN in the azz to tuck under sail panels etc.....

2) Rollups are just way to huge to even be useable....literally 1" extra on bottom of pattern, and doing Volkswagens, You know how tight they are. And the put this "label" on the liner side of each pattern, so it gets in the way when You try to shrink the rollup patterns. Just an overall Pain in the TOOKIS! Took Me abbout 1/2 hour longer to install the kits than to install My own patterns. inot.gif
tint51
(flat rock stan @ Jul 27 2009, 07:38 AM) [*]705876[/*]
How would digi work if a real tinter put it up? dunno.gif



I have done both!

The material seems cheaper but works.. Have not had too many problems..( Digi)


It seems the adhesive is stronger on name brands..

But if you have the skill it will work both ways.. I never use the pre- shrunk anymore since I have that learned..to the must degree..

If the template was cut wrong that is where the issue is>>
sunlimitedCT
I did notice on a removal I did, that the film went below the gasket quite a bit, which #1 is probably why there was a shiatload of contamination, #2 would make a seasoned installer crazy unless panels were removed...
watchdaride
(Booms2Go @ Jul 26 2009, 02:51 AM) [*]705713[/*]
(watchdaride @ Jul 25 2009, 09:31 PM) [*]705680[/*]
dealer dont usually have the volume to keep an experienced installer.

We sell over 500 cars A month from our 3 franchises. Every salesmen has a Tint display at his desk, and so do the finace people. We also sell tint off the service drive. And every showroom car gets tinted. I'm plenty busy! icon_mrgreen.gif



could you put a pic of the display on the salesman desk. That sounds like a good idea. I want to approach the dealers i do with that idea. I would like to give them a little something at the end of the month but i do the cars cheap enough and `they complain steadly about how high my price is .
Twisted Tinter
(Booms2Go @ Jul 26 2009, 04:03 PM) [*]705795[/*]
Its a lot of work....but I do have some slow days once in awhile. thumb.gif And an hour for lunch everyday, so I can peruse TD! Flaugh.gif


I have seen alot of your post, you must have a slow watch sleeping.gif
Booms2Go
(watchdaride @ Jul 27 2009, 06:10 PM) [*]705960[/*]
could you put a pic of the display on the salesman desk.

I got mine from My film supplier.
beano
i work in a dealership
when im not tinting im fitting accessories (bull bars, tow bars, cruise control, any other optional extra)
last month i did mor tints than the last 2 months put together. i get my normal wage plus $25 per tint, so im also the one trying to sell the tints to new and used car customers, plus other outside work. i only however get the commission if i do a tint in a certain amont of time.
a d40 navara i can do in 1.25 hours, but give me a pathfinder of the same year (say both 08, same basic shape,same engine etc.) the pathfinder takes me 5 hrs to get perfect and they dont understand that and it gives me the irrates (dunno if i can swear here)
another thing is my training (mostly why im here) the bloke who trained me (and the one who trained him) said it was impossible to tint the rear screen on an 08 micra. i did it in one shot perfect. ive got the shits and i want to prove to everyone at work i can do it. i agree im only noob but im sick of explaining to people im not applying the film to the outside of the glass, im only preparing it, you dumb arse. im tired of that side of it but want to learn more of how to make the job easier or faster. quality isnt a problem as that is my first priority on ANY job.
cheers to you all for listening to me
tinting is an art and i respect you all
LEO'n'DARTZ
(flat rock stan @ Jul 24 2009, 12:49 PM) [*]705467[/*]
(thatsnappyguy @ Jul 23 2009, 09:53 PM) [*]705365[/*]
contact stan foster, or phillip at solar control distributors for global window films. they just opened a new tint school in st louis.

Thanks Mr. Snappy beer.gif Take the plunge and come see me in Portland or St. Louis! I have had several Canadians come down for training, Blazux came about 2 years ago.
Cheers and hang in there
Stan

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