Does it even exist?

I've been researching and calling around for a little less than a month and no shop seems to be able to give me a straight answer, which worries me.

I've read several treads from others and have been blown away by the amount of knowledge you all have so I'm really hoping some of you could help me.

I'm in Atlanta, Ga and have a 08 Lancer GTS with all the bells and whistles. Tire sensors, Nav, Bluetooth and push button starting. The legal tint is 32% (which i'd like to stay around) and i've been looking for a nice black (or Smoke grey or Charcoal) looking tint that will give me privacy but still have high heat rejection. The higher the better, its hot in GA. Many of the shops have tried to push their Huper optik, Suntek Ultravision DS, and 3M Crystallines on me because they have the exact type of heat rejection I'm looking for but like you all know they are all clear and have no darkness to them. I have no problem paying for quality, I'll save up if I have to just have a good product with a warranty that looks great and keeps my car as cool as possible.

You guys have tons of more experience and great feedback what are your suggestions?
Am i really looking for the impossible? A 45% or higher Heat rejection tint with a cool dark look?

PS you probably could tell this but because of the gadgets in my car i haven't been considering any metallics because of the reports of interference.

What do you think?

Thank you in advance

Solargard Ultra Performance 20 or 10 should meet your criteria.

Thanx for the feedback Larry

But according to Solar Gards website the Solargard Ultra Performance 20 and 10 are both colorless and clear, plus they would technically be !llegal in GA (lower than 32% VLT).
Can it be purchased in a smoke grey color or something?


http://solargard.com/Auto/Ultra

I assure they are not colorless and clear, someone is not doing their job... Ultra 75 came out 1st a few years ago so that info was accurate then, since the release of our new VLT's they need to update the page... Ultra Performance 75% would be nearly clear since a clear pane of glass if considered to have a VLT (Visible Light Transmittance) of roughly 80-90% A film with a VLT of 20% allows 20% of visible light through it, therefore it is quite dark to help stop that light from passing through.

Here is a photo with Ultra 10 on the rear 30 on the fronts. Ultra 30 meters at 34% VLT but that still won't cut it after its installed on factory glass. Ultra 40 is your only option on the Solargard front.

Larry....come on dude, you must have read that he cannot go lower than 32%, and wants a smoked film that reduces heat by at least 45%. There isnt many non metalized films that can achieve that reduction. You can get Wincos 40 that rejects 92% if the IR, and you will noitice the windows are darker, but it wont have a "smoked look" b/c the film looks a little blue. Huper will look shiny, but I think the #'s are better. Madico's CH film @ 35% is 39% reduction....and Suntek makes a Carbon line that is a color stable dyed film, but I dont know what the reduction is...but you could look it up.

i'm not exactly sure, but try wincos 30 from madico. i'll probably use that same film for my next car. and larry will give some solargard up70 on the windshield.

sorry..wincos doesn't have a 40%..that i know of?

Ultra 40 blocks 43% pretty close to what you are after and would meter legal.

i had to find my wincos parameter sheets and samples. looking at wincos hcd-30g vlt of 34 and heat rejection ratio of 53

Man you guys are geniuses, thank you for your insight.

I dont recall any of the locations even mentioning that they carried Wincos 30. A few had Solargard but only promoted the Ultra has a clear film like the website. So i'll have to do some more calling.

At least i have a place to start.

Thanx again

Sorry, 45%...

Wincos 45 is probably the best bet. But might not have anyone in his area that carries it. But Huper Optik Ceramic 40% is even better and it isn't that shiny. Had that on the windshield of the boat pulling truck and it wasn't noticeably shiny.

sorry..wincos don't make a 45% either...they have a 70 ,60,30,20..i would suggest the 30g which is actually 34% vlt..the GA law is 32% net...*/- 3 % so i would say you should be safe with a 34% vlt..but you may want to have someone meter the film and your glass at the same time to make sure you are safe.

Go with the UP40, just hope somebodies got it around you

I say UP 40 also. The color is really nice. Very traditional "black" looking film. If you dont care about color or shine there is JWF IR30 with 61% TSER. IR40 has a 54% TSER. There are mixed reports of interference with the JWF though.

UP30 (34%VLT) is going to meter the same as Wincos 30 but I don't think either will pass an inspection with a tint meter. Wincos also has a blue hue to it, not charcoal/nuetral

larrytintlimo-boy your working hard.
good job.

I appreciate that, make sure you look me up when its w/s time on the next ride

Aww man I was starting to get excited. Limo Lar, why do you not think the tint would pass inspection? Is there something wrong with the percentages that company's quote to customers? From what I'm hearing it sounds like a Wincos with low VLT (like 34%) would look black or dark from the outside but from viewing it inside the car it would be a blue hue. Does that sound right?
That would actually be ok with me becuase the Lancer i have is this awesome shade of blue. So i'd get the benefit of privacy from the outside (with the shade of black) and a slight blue on the inside which is cool becuase i like blue. When you guys say blue i'm picturing some of the Mercedes Benzs that ive seen with a blueish tint to them, is that about right.

P.S I wanted to show pics of my Lancer like you did with the Altima but the Pics with my phone are 408k and too big. How were you about to get your pic to fit, Limo Lar? You guys have been so helpful i wanted you to see a before and after based on your expertise.

How to Post Pics on the Forum

Thanx alot Tintdude.

I am not 100% familiar with Georgia laws regarding tint. Some can be more lax than others but I work for Solargard so it is in the companies and my own best interest to preach "keepin it legal"

Your existing glass is not 100% clear, more than likely 75-85% VLT so we take say 85 x .34 = 28.9% VLT so its darn close to 32% with a variance +/- 3% allowing you down to 29% but again it my advice to keep it legal. Your factory glass could be darker than the 85% I used for the example. Are there any qualified Solargard dealers in the area? I would consult with them since they are going to be familiar with the law and what is considered legal and safe in Georgia. I'd hate to have you get that shade only to have the law tell you its gotta be removed

You have a sweet lookin car, I am partial to blue myself and if it were legal in my hood I'd rock UP30 all day on my car.

that blue hue will look nice on that car. just roll the dice.

This is suntek carbon 35%, has a tser of 42% and a nice black look. It will probably meter around 29% on your glass though so im not sure if georgia's 32% is net or if they may cut you a little slack. Carbon 45% would be the next option up which would meter 34-36% on your glass.

Appreciate the pic you posted Micro, before i posted on this site i was seriously considering the Carbon 35. It had everything i needed except i was positive that there had to be something with better heat rejection. The salesman quoted me a heat rejection of 37% but when i checked online it said 42% like you are quoting. I just assumed the worst. I was going to get the front and back sides in Carbon 35, the back windshield with Carbon 20 and the front with a legal, clear Huper Optic. Tell me something, how cool is your car when you get into it? Do you feel a big difference in comfort or is it still hot when you get into the car after awhile?

After the response from this site I'm now seriously considering UP30 or Wincos 30. In the state of GA there is a variance of +/-3 so it can technically meter at 29% and I'd be ok. But this whole "windows already being tinted" thing just caught me off guard. I have no idea how to test my window tint (with factory glass) to be sure. I think I'm going to take TintStar's advice "Roll the dice"

They claim 42% on the 35 but in all honesty i don't think that is correct. I really don't use the carbon much cause it doesn't seem to block the heat as much as i like, i use suntek hp which is a dye/metal and it does a good job blocking heat, looks good, and i've never had anyone complain about reception issues nor had a comeback on it. The carbon does have a nice look from the outside but so does the hp.... Here is suntek HP 35%, meters 32 dead on on the glass....

this is a good idea what you lancer will look like with a wincos 30

Micro you are the man, appreciate your honest opinion, I believe your findings and they confirmed my suspicions. I'm so glad I contacted the pros in this forum before settling with the Carbon reluctantly since it wouldn't meet my expectations for comfort and heat rejection. For a couple bucks more I could just get the Wincos 30. Speaking of Wincos, Tintgod, the name fits, I'm not a big technology person so i have no idea how you put that tint on my pic, but man it looks GOOD, Thank you. A part of me is a little worried about it looking like a cheap black tint that turned purple, but I think that when i see it in person i wont have those doubts anymore. I'm checking out a shop on Sat. I'll post updates.

that was sweeeet.

how'd u do that?

Photoshop, that was pretty cool

thanks...its not exact..but it will give him a good idea