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i've been using Global HP and someone recommended the qdp instead. I know QDP dryes quicker, but what are the other differences.
its cheaper and last longer.
I was on Globals website and i doesn't say if the qdp is metallized. I heard that qdp shrinks better, thats why im considering using it.
No qdp is not metallized and has more of a black nonreflective look from the outside. qdp looks better than the hp just doesn't block as much heat.
qdp is non-reflective and is very user-friendly, some good stuff imo.
We carry some qdp and like it
QUOTE (Mr paladin @ Jul 31 2009, 07:48 AM) [*]706807[/*] We carry some qdp and like it QUOTE (pjtintz @ Jul 28 2009, 10:55 AM) [*]706171[/*] i've been using Global HP and someone recommended the qdp instead. I know QDP dryes quicker, but what are the other differences. Yo Braa, Burke here, I had my hand in those films, one problem, yes 1.5 mil thickness, not uv stabelized and or a metalized film, ok so now what, this is a standard died film w a silicone liner, so it shrinks good but real world the uv will fail and the yellow will go away so there is only red & blue left in the film what do we got? Purple ha ha, thats how it really works, if you dont believe me , take a piece of glass tint it with whatever, cover strips on it to see the tru fade factor, you will not need to believe me or maybe youll believe, todays generation three dyes will some day be proven for its film technology, traditionally you have to pay for it, this economy sucks so bad a added bonus instead of a price point is created, think about it....this is the future of auto film in todays world....
i like qdp very nice film ....but i push my supreme line much easier to work with
Dear Mr. Burke,
Sir. I completely reject your conclusion that the Global Film is poorly constructed and that it will turn purple. I have aged that product in my QUV for over 6,000 hours. In addition, I have sold it to hundreds of my company’s best customers since 2004. No such failures have been observed, either in our QUV or in the field. In the 26 year history of our company, we have never had the pleasure of selling such a remarkably solid product. Your statements are without merit. Respectfully, Howard Paritsky Express Window Films
well said howard and that my friends is a true asset to the window tinting world Howard P a true professional at what he does !!!!
QUOTE (EWF @ Aug 3 2009, 09:48 AM) [*]707331[/*] Dear Mr. Burke, Sir. I completely reject your conclusion that the Global Film is poorly constructed and that it will turn purple. I have aged that product in my QUV for over 6,000 hours. In addition, I have sold it to hundreds of my company’s best customers since 2004. No such failures have been observed, either in our QUV or in the field. In the 26 year history of our company, we have never had the pleasure of selling such a remarkably solid product. Your statements are without merit. Respectfully, Howard Paritsky Express Window Films Yeah Braa! Think I'll just keep ordering from Howard. TRUE PROFFESIONAL!
okay, there is truth to both to pat and howard statements.
when pat was a selling the film garware sun control(global) it did fail. we never saw the name garware again. in recent times global comes out with new and better products and thats what i believe that howard is selling. correct me if i'm wrong.
Tintstar,
You are correct. My interest in Garware Polyester dates back to my involvement with Joe O’Brien in the 1980s. Joe formed a business relationship with Mr. Garware and began importing their dyed films. I began to study the Garware/Global line in depth sometime in 2002. We did our standard battery of tests on the products and found that although they were made quite well, the color was somewhat vulnerable. I believe that’s what you are referring to. In fairness to them, they were almost as good (or better) than some of the other major players at that time. Still, we were not comfortable in “jumping in the pool”. Everything changed in 2003-2004 when the new color stable pigments were incorporated (particularly the yellow). Global announced the color stable warranty. The rest is history. This is the best professional automotive film we have ever handled. As a distributor, this solid product line is exactly what we wanted. We’re as good as Llumar (let’s face it – they’re the benchmark) but at a better price. -Howard QUOTE (EWF @ Aug 5 2009, 06:42 PM) [*]708068[/*] Tintstar, You are correct. My interest in Garware Polyester dates back to my involvement with Joe O’Brien in the 1980s. Joe formed a business relationship with Mr. Garware and began importing their dyed films. I began to study the Garware/Global line in depth sometime in 2002. We did our standard battery of tests on the products and found that although they were made quite well, the color was somewhat vulnerable. I believe that’s what you are referring to. In fairness to them, they were almost as good (or better) than some of the other major players at that time. Still, we were not comfortable in “jumping in the pool”. Everything changed in 2003-2004 when the new color stable pigments were incorporated (particularly the yellow). Global announced the color stable warranty. The rest is history. This is the best professional automotive film we have ever handled. As a distributor, this solid product line is exactly what we wanted. We’re as good as Llumar (let’s face it – they’re the benchmark) but at a better price. -Howard Nice post, I agree qdp is a solid film
yea global is a great film... howard is right... global films are constructed through the bath dyed process just like CP/llumar films. i'd still have to say that ATC is better looking film than qdp, but for the price I would lean toward qdp. thats just my two cents.
i still think the global lays out better and feels better during the install i dont like the way llumar curls or gets ridgid after the shrink on the rear so i have to roll with the qdp
you can not beat the value "price for what you get" qdp is nice looking, works fine imo, and comes in good range of vlts. and I feel good at the end of the day for using it. extra 10 ft ait bad.
QUOTE (EWF @ Aug 5 2009, 09:42 PM) [*]708068[/*] We’re as good as Llumar (let’s face it – they’re the benchmark) but at a better price. -Howard Please explain "as good" What happened to Globals Flat glass and Safety Films ? How to warranty a lifetime install , when the products are no longer available? Why does Global now have a smelly adhesive when the liner is pulled off ? (SMELLS LIKE HIGH SOLVENT RETENTION)
“As good” in terms of what we are able to test for:
Color stability VLT increase Longitudinal peel strength Loss of adhesion SR Hardness I wrote a lengthy post in the recent past about the Global Flat Glass Line. In a nutshell, the distribution network is presently unable to absorb the MOQs required to make it worth their while to produce it. Good point about the availability of warranty films (should it be necessary). We were able to source the Copper & NiChrome based films without great difficulty. Silver is Silver. The EDRs are unique, so we retained almost 40,000 sq/ft in Danbury, should the need arise. More importantly, no customer of mine need ever worry. If I had to, I would pay out-of-pocket to take care of any customer that got into a jam. We treat people the way we would expect to be treated if we were in that situation. I’m not sure what to make of the smell comment. If you have a specimen to send me I would be happy to forward that to the lab for quantification of the retained solvents. I do know that’s part of the inspection regimen. Neither I nor any of the other Global distributors to my knowledge has ever documented a case of adhesive failure attributable to solvent retention. Let me take this opportunity to remind everyone reading this about an important fact. I am not just saying this because I am fortunate enough to distribute this product. I believe in credit where credit is due: These folks are the only ones on this planet that are making the product from the molecular level. Many of you purchase films from “manufacturers” that are really nothing more than coating & laminating shops. I am not saying this to “sell the others short”, because I know there is no shortage of terrific film in the market. But the others are not petrochemical engineering companies. Garware Polyester is the one and only petrochemical engineering firm producing finished window film. I know some of you have taken factory tours and seen coating and laminating machines spewing out finished window film. But what you were seeing were the very last steps in a long process. The polyester film you see running on those lines was made elsewhere. It’s a long way to travel, but if you toured the Garware plant, you would see how the base polyester film is converted from a liquid state, to wax like chunks, to PET chips and extruded into polyester sheets. It’s really amazing and it’s the reason why the products are so solid. These guys control absolutely every aspect of that film, starting at the molecular level. Although many others are quite good, no other manufacturer has that kind of absolute process control. -Howard
Yea i use global QDP i notice once i pulled the release liner it had a smell to it
i love qdp~
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