What is Chip Dyed Color Extruded

I was looking at some tint and seen one that said is was chip dyed color extruded and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what this is and is it good or bad?

I guess I need informed too cuz I haven't heard of that

All films are extruded from pellets


Traditional dye process is dipping the clear film in a dyevat just like clothing. unfortunately that process fades fast.

Color stable style films have the dye in the pellets prior to extruding. This allows the dye to be throughout the film instead of the sides only. The theory is the color will last longer.

they use poker chips. $1, $5, $10,......$500, $1,000. its all they same. blue, red, black, white or what ever the color chips its all the same.
the word "extruded" is over done. some last, some don't just like dip dye.

would love to know wich ones last and wich dont

Theory being the key word in that statement.

can anyone confirm if the sunscape films are made from chip dyed extruded pet?

Gents:

We sell each type of film mentioned in this post (in addition to others).

TintStar is correct. The word "extruded" is overdone to the extent that all films are extruded. Extrusion is the process during which the PET chips become polyester film. Most films are extruded as clear polyester and are subsequently dyed. CP/Llumar, Global (Garware) and most recently Sun-Tek (according to WF Mag) are the only ones with this dying capability.

Chip dyed films (such as True Black) have the color embedded into the chips before extrusion. The chips are actually black (as opposed to clear).

In terms of durability:

For many years, we held the belief that the films made from the colored chips (such as TB) would exhibit better color stability. We were not correct. The films from CP/Llumar and Global did the best in our testing. The color extruded films did very, very well however. Unless your customer retains an original specimen or owns a spectrometer, don't expect to see them again until they bring in another vehicle for you to tint. The color shift is very subtle and in no way unsightly.

The CP/Llumar and Global films were just a "notch" better. You'll pay for that, however.

I do not know for certain if the Sunscape films are color extruded. Madico does not have the capacity to dye polyester, so if the films are dyed, it is likely that the process was outsourced. I have heard throughout the years that Madico is capable of working with colored adhesives (as FTI/Sun-Gard fomerly did). FTI (whose films we sold) was actualy quite adept at that process. In either event, if the Sunscape films are color chip extruded, this should not be seen as a benefit, necessarily.

My suggestion would be to call someone at the factory and ask. Performance & construction questions such as this are fair game. If you do find out, please post your findings. If you get your information from a distributor, however, I suggest you coorborate it with someone from the factory. There are plenty of well intentioned, but uninformed folks working in distribution warehouses.

-Howard

Chip dye is a much more accurate description.

I buy that!

Chip is the guy running the extrusion machine. Its that simple.

to piggy back with howards post, since its the same thing in the auto plastic industry(what my dad does)

"raw" or natural plastic pellets look like this:


and pellets for a "chip dyed" film look like this:


notice the ratio of natural to colored chips. window film takes a much higher concentration of the "colorant" as it is called, due to its thinness and the fact that it still needs to have its color. just about any plastic piece on your car is injection molded, and their pellets have a much lower ratio of colorant to natural due to the fact colorant is extremely expensive, and the thickness of the part makes it not as necessary to have the large amounts of colorant. As an example, say the window film pellets are 50/50 colorant/natural(probably more than that) so thats 1:1 colorant:natural. auto plastics on the other hand are more like 1:50 or 100, because of the thickness of the part, much less colorant is needed, even for colors like black and brown. In the auto industry if the injector doesn't mix the pellets enough, the color "runs" or the finished part has slightly opaque spots, because there was too much natural in that area so it was slightly transparent. Its really quite amazing to see in person.

as has been said, theoretically having the color imbeded into the film is better than having the plastic dyed, because the "natural" for the chip dyed film is to retain its color.