Contgrats National Glass Service Group

Patrick,

I just received a letter from 3M in the mail today. NGSG to own and operate the old LA Service Center effective Oct 1st. Congratulations. Can I start connecting the dots and you explain?

NGSG inks an exclusive with 3M to be National Accounts Sales Group + NGSG buys LA Service Center and is now a Distributor of 3M window films. What does this add up too?

I think your sig says it all

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Vclimber,

Before this goes down the wrong path, NGSG, LLC is taking over operations in LA with a division called Service Group Distribution. This will have no effect on the project management division called National Glass Service Group. They will continue to do what they have been doing. All jobs will be spec'd with 3M, installed by 3M authorized dealers, film ordered through each appropriate distribution center, etc. Service Group distribution will be the distributor for the 3 states on the west coast, but all other work will flow through the existing distribution network as it has already been doing. There really is no change other than the fact that NGSG, LLC (the parent) will be operating the center instead of 3M. Please do not forget, NGSG does not install anything. All installation is done by 3M installers at a rate that is agreed upon by all parties. NGSG has not taken any business, but we have brought new business to some of these dealers.

Sorry that there is not anything more to it as I am sure that some will try and turn this into some big conspiracy.

I'm just looking for understanding because as you well know we are receiving a ton of news about suppliers making direct commercial sales and making use of their dealers as installers. The way I read the letter it says the former LA Service Center will now be " a fully independent distribution center owned and operated" under NGSG; the name being SGD. So NGSG, Zola, SGD all under same ownership, right?

As you probably know I am wondering where the film sale is going? All I see you referring too here regarding the dealer is that they will have installations given to them. If this is true, then it comes across as contrary to how you explained the 3M NGSG National Account Sales arrangement.

Sorry for not being clearer. With regard to NGSG, the installs and the film sale will be with the dealer as it has always been. As far as your other question, NGSG, LLC owns NGSG, Zola and now SGD. Absolutely nothing has changed regarding the NGSG piece and how it works. The dealer buys the film and does the install through their normal channels.

vc, have you called steve the 3m rep(worthles piece of sss) or jassel the sevice manager.

OK, We beat the bag out of this about a month ago. If anyone thought NGSG laid all thier cards on the table at that point , well I got a bridge to sell you. Wake up boys and girls. As I said before WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY EVEN THE BLIND CAN SEE. Fasten your seat belt cause its gonna be a bumpy ride NGSC is bringing you on. Im sure this could find a spot in my MMM haters thread somewhere.

We are talking about two totally different things and I have been completely forthright with everyone. A month ago this was in the works, but 3M was looking at multiple other options as well, so this was far from decided. Believe what you want. There simply is no conspiracy or ulterior motive here.

You guys selling bridges soon?

That too was in the works a month ago.They will soon have a deal worked out with mmm to sell the San Fran bridge, The George Wsh bridge and the London bridge.

While you are at it, don't forget the Brooklyn Bridge.

I think I heard CP has a deal in the works for that bridge ,but they are exploring all options so you may still have a shot

Everybody else has seen through the transparency of this guy, the rest of you will catch on eventually.

edit to late...willie quoted you ...

If there man enought to post it up they need to be man enough to stand behind it

Sorry you feel that way Stan. As I am sure someone like you can appreciate, many deals like this are in the works, but confidentiality prohibits sharing the information publicly. I do not think that makes me dishonest. That is just the way that these types of deals have to happen. I did not know until very recently that 3M chose us to take over this center. They had been speaking with us as well as several others from my understanding. NGSG LLC is trying to grow and prosper in this environment the same way everyone else is. However, I have not, and will not be dishonest with people while trying to pursue that growth. Some on these forums want to make everything into a much larger deal than it actually is. Some actually even question my transparency, but I am one of the few that actually posts on here with my full identity disclosed as you do also Stan. I am willing to discuss most anything regarding our business with anyone willing to be open minded. I have officially decided to ignore some that feel they already have the whole world figured out. No sense frustrating myself and wasting my time. I definitely do not put you in that catagory Stan, so I would welcome an open dialog with you at any time. Call me at 614-571-2174.

Best Regards,

i will give you props for that...some just like to hide behind the big curtain and play the puppet master.

I couldnt agree more

So Identity exposed and motive a mystery is better than Identity a mystery and motive clear and exposed ??

I don't know... I will take mystery man who is upfront about his objective over a public figure with a hidden agenda any day...

What hidden agenda? How do you know if the "mystery man" you refer to does not have an objective or hidden agenda? You would have no way of knowing as you have no idea who they are?

and that is YOUR choice.

I like TTS thoughts but personally I think members who derail threads and cause trouble are basically defacing the site altogether. The rarely bring information to the board and they trash the threads and posts created by members who do bring things to share.

Who would you rather have around? Thread trashing trouble makers or people that add to the benefit of the online community?

First off Willie I saw you had quoted me so just bite me If you want to make statements about manning up you should spend more time here on TD like you used too instead of the elitist board. And.... you need to learn to spell or use spell check.
My edit was after thinking it over I decided I was going to talk to Patrick about a discount price on volume tool purchases even if he is part of the hated mmm empire. I can get past that because he is probably one of the smarter on the ball guys on the board. I would rather do do business with him than other company's who cant even get my orders right. Patrick I publicly apologize for my off the cuff remark and will talking to you soon. I saw where there might be a linkedin get together at SEMA so probably will see you there.
Vc I have wondered for some time where you are from at what your job is.... care to share or remain a mystery man?
Stan Foster from Portland Oregon

Thanks Stan. I look forward to speaking with you soon. It would be great to connect at SEMA. Hopefully we can put something together as a group.

Bite me.......Nice mature response there Stan. I would have expected better
Elitist board Now thats funny, I dont spend much time anywhere anymore, and I assure you if Im online and checking out the boards Im on all of them the same amount of time. Sorry dude, I got a wife and four kids to feed, I cant spend my time all day on these boards anymore spamming and looking for the next hack to put on the street.
And speaking of that Stan, Im shocked that I dont see your name up there on the donate list. As much money as you have made off this site over the years you personally should be the top donor.
Well I better quit, Ive toned it down alot here and everywhere else out of repect for Bossdude and the mods everywhere.
Please dont start anything you cant finish. I'll check in when I can to see what immature gibberish you have to say. Other than have a good day

Is this gonna be a rumble ??

Its kind of hard to rumble when the other side brings nothing to the ring. Im wondering also, if the Global distributors realize just how much business they have actually lost instead of gained by joining in the alliance with King Spam

If my memory still serves me correctly, 3M has gone from corporate owned distribution to privately owned, then back to corporate owned, and now back to privately owned. Do you have any comment on why things have transitioned back and forth and what prevents this from happening again?

Not trying to get off topic, but what happened to Willies post inbetween PJF and TintGod, that was quoting Stan. And Stan, why did you edit that post?

yeah...where did that go?

Is booms flexing his new power..

Nope... Wasn't Me.
There is no way I would stick My chicken neck into that vat of controversy! I woulda gotten chewed up and spit out. What I WAS wondering is how it went sideways so fast?

The thread got worse and went totally off topic so I removed several posts.

It went off-topic at post #18 which doesn't surprise me.

Did TG just get bitch slapped ??

Nice form VC !

i don't know...but it seems like your nose fits up his azz really good..

Hay! I was just pointing out the obvious... Don't go trying to drag my fine behind into your little love affair

and you can quote me on this if you like also....

This is the "incredible shrinking thread"! How is everybody going to get their ever popular "top 25" badge?

So why was my post removed? Wasnt offensive or derogatory

I have no idea what happened to many of the posts. I saw that the first group was removed and TD said why he did that, but then I noticed another batch was recently removed also.

Hmm... Maybe ScottyKnows ??

It went totally off topic with another fight between members again so I just deleted all off topic posts.