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ClassOnGlass
i just did another A5... this time i popped up the rear deck to see what we are up against...i covered the amp with a towel and plastic and on top of that i put tissue paper on top of the plastic to see if it gets wet... under the rear deck they have a inverted sub woofer and tweeters...so i removed the sub and tweets and went on with the install of the tint ...i soaked the hell out of the rear glass 2 times trying to get the amp wet but no such luck the water does not go down to it not even one drip on the tissue paper ...so in my conclusion the inverted sub has to soak up the water or it goes into the voice coil because it is facing upward and it has to short out the amp ....water never even came close to being near the amp or its wires in the elevated area in the back left rear corner where it is mounted....so i am going to protect the woofer and tweets on these cars in the future.... hope i was able to help you thanks big joe class on glass ps to replace the amp with labor is $1700.00 at audi and they have a bulliten posted about window tinting on that car the car has no warranty on the amp if it was tinted !!!!
VIP tint + glass
good lookin out. any info on taking the deck off and how difficult it was?
naughtydog
god info Joe - maybe some pics and tips on removal would help us all.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Oct 15 2009, 08:03 AM) [*]723299[/*]
i just did another A5... this time i popped up the rear deck to see what we are up against...i covered the amp with a towel and plastic and on top of that i put tissue paper on top of the plastic to see if it gets wet... under the rear deck they have a inverted sub woofer and tweeters...so i removed the sub and tweets and went on with the install of the tint ...i soaked the hell out of the rear glass 2 times trying to get the amp wet but no such luck the water does not go down to it not even one drip on the tissue paper ...so in my conclusion the inverted sub has to soak up the water or it goes into the voice coil because it is facing upward and it has to short out the amp ....water never even came close to being near the amp or its wires in the elevated area in the back left rear corner where it is mounted....so i am going to protect the woofer and tweets on these cars in the future.... hope i was able to help you thanks big joe class on glass ps to replace the amp with labor is $1700.00 at audi and they have a bulliten posted about window tinting on that car the car has no warranty on the amp if it was tinted !!!!




as far as a woofer getting wet? there is no posible way it would of fried or distroied the amp........we all get woofers and speakers wet when the tint is applied...i just did a a5 and hed no issues...what is it that it is doing? or is it just not working?
TTS
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 15 2009, 01:40 PM) [*]723486[/*]
as far as a woofer getting wet? there is no posible way it would of fried or distroied the amp........we all get woofers and speakers wet when the tint is applied...i just did a a5 and hed no issues...what is it that it is doing? or is it just not working?


hmmmmmmm.gif you must not have much car audio experience... dunno.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (TTS @ Oct 15 2009, 04:41 PM) [*]723487[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 15 2009, 01:40 PM) [*]723486[/*]
as far as a woofer getting wet? there is no posible way it would of fried or distroied the amp........we all get woofers and speakers wet when the tint is applied...i just did a a5 and hed no issues...what is it that it is doing? or is it just not working?


hmmmmmmm.gif you must not have much car audio experience... dunno.gif



yea i do! and getting a woofer will not blow finals in a amp.... "wet voice coils is not like touching pos. and neg together which does fry finals in a amp!"
is this the car thats spoke of? same year make and model.....
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
by the way a voice coil is covered in a resin that would prodect it(the wire coil) as far as it "GETTING WET " messing up a speaker yes its possible......... "NOT A AMP"
TTS
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 15 2009, 02:05 PM) [*]723496[/*]
by the way a voice coil is covered in a resin that would prodect it(the wire coil) as far as it "GETTING WET " messing up a speaker yes its possible......... "NOT A AMP"


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MobileTintInc
Woofer tweeter amp computer whatever... Im still covering up all that I can and am extremely grateful for the tip, Id rather loose $1700 at the casio before messing that up.

I bet if we refrain from turning the key on for a couple hours that would help some of the water to drain/dry to be extra careful.
ClassOnGlass
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 15 2009, 04:05 PM) [*]723496[/*]
by the way a voice coil is covered in a resin that would prodect it(the wire coil) as far as it "GETTING WET " messing up a speaker yes its possible......... "NOT A AMP"

you have no clue bro a dead short in any speaker can fry the amp i have been doing 12 volt installs for 19 years and water is a dead short so put this on asshat.gif and sit in the corner until you feel like making another retarded video lol2.gif
Booms2Go
I scrub the HELL outta My tweeters........ spit.gif
mikeMN
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Oct 15 2009, 05:40 PM) [*]723548[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 15 2009, 04:05 PM) [*]723496[/*]
by the way a voice coil is covered in a resin that would prodect it(the wire coil) as far as it "GETTING WET " messing up a speaker yes its possible......... "NOT A AMP"

you have no clue bro a dead short in any speaker can fry the amp i have been doing 12 volt installs for 19 years and water is a dead short so put this on asshat.gif and sit in the corner until you feel liking making another retarded video :

blink.gif Flaugh.gif
Booms2Go
lol2.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Oct 15 2009, 06:40 PM) [*]723548[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 15 2009, 04:05 PM) [*]723496[/*]
by the way a voice coil is covered in a resin that would prodect it(the wire coil) as far as it "GETTING WET " messing up a speaker yes its possible......... "NOT A AMP"

you have no clue bro a dead short in any speaker can fry the amp i have been doing 12 volt installs for 19 years and water is a dead short so put this on asshat.gif and sit in the corner until you feel like making another retarded video lol2.gif



ok some if a voice wasnt protected in resign then it wouldnt work at at...yea you know a whole bunch about this.. Flaugh.gif you surely dont know how a voice coil works...you should realy read about..because you are so far off!

lol...dead short doesnt come from a speaker getting wet...
mikeMN
popcorn.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (mikeMN @ Oct 16 2009, 09:28 AM) [*]723653[/*]
popcorn.gif


lol2.gif at least i tinted mine with no problems lol2.gif

makes for a good laugh, agree with you mike
blade
is there anyone on this board who doesn't fock with you jeff? Flaugh.gif says alot about the type of person you come across as. wonder what you're like in person. Flaugh.gif i bet sarah will be along anytime to tell us how great you are though. Flaugh.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (blade @ Oct 16 2009, 10:22 AM) [*]723666[/*]
is there anyone on this board who doesn't fock with you jeff? Flaugh.gif says alot about the type of person you come across as. wonder what you're like in person. Flaugh.gif i bet sarah will be along anytime to tell us how great you are though. Flaugh.gif


sorry blade she is no longer with us....is doesnt matter if im f/with or not when your wrong ill let you know....im not a know it all at all....i do know i have never fried any electronic whike tinting a window!

i did even see it as f-ing with me at all...thought it was just fun and games....

makes you wonder blade dont it? there is alot of guys that have started to follow the negative trend...thats funny
Booms2Go
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 16 2009, 11:22 AM) [*]723679[/*]
sorry blade she is no longer with us....

Divorce Court! krazy.gif

No longer with "Us"? ...or no longer with You? dunno.gif

popcorn.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Oct 16 2009, 12:16 PM) [*]723694[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 16 2009, 11:22 AM) [*]723679[/*]
sorry blade she is no longer with us....

Divorce Court! krazy.gif

No longer with "Us"? ...or no longer with You? dunno.gif

popcorn.gif



divorce court, funny i like that..lmao

lol2.gif no longer working for rolling sound...im sure she will still sign on ever blue moon or so?
blade
what happened...did she fall off a cornelius tank and get hurt or something? dunno.gif
mikeMN
QUOTE (blade @ Oct 16 2009, 01:35 PM) [*]723732[/*]
what happened...did she fall off a cornelius tank and get hurt or something? dunno.gif

lol2.gif Hopefully it was not 2 tanks HIGH
Booms2Go
QUOTE (blade @ Oct 16 2009, 02:35 PM) [*]723732[/*]
what happened...did she fall off a cornelius tank and get hurt or something? dunno.gif

lol2.gif
mikeMN
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 16 2009, 10:22 AM) [*]723679[/*]
QUOTE (blade @ Oct 16 2009, 10:22 AM) [*]723666[/*]
is there anyone on this board who doesn't fock with you jeff? Flaugh.gif says alot about the type of person you come across as. wonder what you're like in person. Flaugh.gif i bet sarah will be along anytime to tell us how great you are though. Flaugh.gif


sorry blade she is no longer with us....is doesnt matter if im f/with or not when your wrong ill let you know....im not a know it all at all....i do know i have never fried any electronic whike tinting a window!

i did even see it as f-ing with me at all...thought it was just fun and games....

makes you wonder blade dont it? there is alot of guys that have started to follow the negative trend...thats funny

Jeff I want to make something clear to you so you do not think you have started something new.the company I work for has been doing window film graphics of all types for over 40 YEARS and I have pics to prove it so I just don’t want you to be thinking you have started something new.and that would be positive or negative or what ever else you would call it. thumb.gif
blade
i'll second that. i first did a negative design like that in 1989. Flaugh.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (blade @ Oct 16 2009, 03:42 PM) [*]723749[/*]
i'll second that. i first did a negative design like that in 1989. Flaugh.gif



LMAO...using transfer tape right lol2.gif
Booms2Go
popcorn.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Oct 16 2009, 04:07 PM) [*]723756[/*]
popcorn.gif ur twocents.gif

bingo.gif lol2.gif
blade
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 16 2009, 01:06 PM) [*]723755[/*]
QUOTE (blade @ Oct 16 2009, 03:42 PM) [*]723749[/*]
i'll second that. i first did a negative design like that in 1989. Flaugh.gif



LMAO...using transfer tape right lol2.gif

grinning_and_saying_no.gif i didn't even know about transfer tape until i started doing vinyl about 7 years ago. Flaugh.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
lol2.gif
QUOTE (blade @ Oct 16 2009, 04:08 PM) [*]723759[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 16 2009, 01:06 PM) [*]723755[/*]
QUOTE (blade @ Oct 16 2009, 03:42 PM) [*]723749[/*]
i'll second that. i first did a negative design like that in 1989. Flaugh.gif



LMAO...using transfer tape right lol2.gif

grinning_and_saying_no.gif i didn't even know about the fact you're a jackass until i started doing vinyl about 7 years ago. Flaugh.gif



thats a hole other thread, lets not ruin this great thread about blowing up a amp by getting a speaker wet lol2.gif
alberts316
wow how did I miss this thread? Good stuff here
Booms2Go
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 16 2009, 11:22 AM) [*]723679[/*]
Sorry blade she is no longer with us....
Back to the important stuff..... spit.gif I wanna know why Sarah decided to leave Your azz the shop? dunno.gif
mikeMN
QUOTE (Booms2Go @ Oct 16 2009, 03:45 PM) [*]723769[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 16 2009, 11:22 AM) [*]723679[/*]
Sorry blade she is no longer with us....
Back to the important stuff..... spit.gif I wanna know why Sarah decided to leave Your azz the shop? dunno.gif
Yes as we all know how the threads on here can get off track so give up the story with your previous bronwen.gif Sara. dunno.gif hmmmmmmm.gif
blade
she must have found someone who was a little less quotes.gif negative quotes.gif perhaps spit.gif
ClassOnGlass
okay i have to say your a dickkk if 2 electric contacts are join by water it is a dead short water will conduct each of them to be as one unplug one of your speakers from your amp and twist them together it is a dead short same as if water joined it dickkkkhead

and the post is not for you to prove you tinted one with out blowing it it is to let others know what to watch out for i tinted five before one of my techs had a issue so like i said go practice making some snapping videos or try cutting some more graphics to embarrass your self when tint artist put out the real ones

to all that can benefit from the thread i hope i was able to help
ClassOnGlass
a frozen voice coil can blow a amp....a blown speaker can blow a amp....a distorted spk can cause a spk to dc and blow a amp and one that is very wet can short and blow a amp jerkit.gif
TTS
Even tho this thread has turned to :%&$# I really appreciate the info Joe thumb.gif

Rutherford is just being a dummy... don't let him stir ya up.. twocents.gif
JayZTint
lol2.gif EZ E Z BIG JOE DONT GO NY STYLE ON HIM - LET IT SLIDE
ClassOnGlass
QUOTE (JayZTint @ Oct 16 2009, 08:14 PM) [*]723822[/*]
lol2.gif EZ E Z BIG JOE DONT GO NY STYLE ON HIM - LET IT SLIDE

lol2.gif lol2.gif lol2.gif ah hes just a back yard hick slanging papa on a dirt road in the south i aint worried about him lol2.gif just trying to prevent costly repairs for the others who can use the info and he is side tracking them but im done with his ignorance .... beer.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Oct 16 2009, 08:51 PM) [*]723814[/*]
okay i have to say your a dickkk if 2 electric contacts are join by water it is a dead short water will conduct each of them to be as one unplug one of your speakers from your amp and twist them together it is a dead short same as if water joined it dickkkkhead

and the post is not for you to prove you tinted one with out blowing it it is to let others know what to watch out for i tinted five before one of my techs had a issue so like i said go practice making some snapping videos or try cutting some more graphics to embarrass your self when tint artist put out the real ones

to all that can benefit from the thread i hope i was able to help



your tinting a window not putting a speaker in a bucket of water so yea nothing like a dead short you should realy think about it a little harder...
bucket of water =dead short
tinting a window =speaker damp if this was the case of a dead short than since there is speakers in doors why dont they short out head units?
either way the one i tinted came out fine no electronics fried lol2.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Oct 16 2009, 09:18 PM) [*]723824[/*]
QUOTE (JayZTint @ Oct 16 2009, 08:14 PM) [*]723822[/*]
lol2.gif EZ E Z BIG JOE DONT GO NY STYLE ON HIM - LET IT SLIDE

lol2.gif lol2.gif lol2.gif ah hes just a back yard hick slanging papa on a dirt road in the south i aint worried about him lol2.gif just trying to prevent costly repairs for the others who can use the info and he is side tracking them but im done with his ignorance .... beer.gif


lol...we are only the biggest north florida premier dealer...dam yankee
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (TTS @ Oct 16 2009, 09:12 PM) [*]723820[/*]
Even tho this thread has turned to :%&$# I really appreciate the info Joe thumb.gif

Rutherford is just being a dummy... don't let him stir ya up.. twocents.gif



yes and im sorry for being this way..the first person to get this car in there shop should research this futher! yes it is great info and i "AM SORRY FOR BEING A A$$" not trying to make front of you calling you names at all,,,besides the yankee part...j/k i completely understand about voice coils and there duties to make sound....amps and there ohm loads but non of that matters...what matters is the fact that you gave us some info that makes us think twice about tinting it... the one i did yea i so thougt about it because all the dash and electronics it does has, you can tell when you first sit in the car. when i noticed that i automaticaly thought that i have to use less water...the only way to do that is to make my slip solution more slip...maybe this is why i had no issues because i was useing less water and more slip....at least on the BG......

so my bad for coming across the wrong way...and would never bring up others girlfriends, wifes, kids or family.....for the record she did leabe but was laidoff..she still wants to work here and maybe next summer?
on this note "yes, i got respect for you guys and sorry for being a a$$ sometimes/all the time as blade would say"

we need to research this futher and thanks for bringing it to a our attention
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
maybe would have tried to have it inverted?


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=64276960
MobileTintInc
DO that in the back of the audi s5 with the bang and olufsen speakers playing on video for me please I want to see it not blow anything up.
TTS
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 17 2009, 05:45 AM) [*]723865[/*]
if this was the case of a dead short than since there is speakers in doors why dont they short out head units?


They can / have / do short out head units.....

Before the days of factory baffles us old school installers would cover the top of the door speaker baskets with duct tape to prevent water from running into the voice coils and shorting out...

twocents.gif
ClassOnGlass
QUOTE (MobileTintInc @ Oct 17 2009, 08:42 PM) [*]723965[/*]
DO that in the back of the audi s5 with the bang and olufsen speakers playing on video for me please I want to see it not blow anything up.



QUOTE (TTS @ Oct 17 2009, 09:41 PM) [*]723967[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 17 2009, 05:45 AM) [*]723865[/*]
if this was the case of a dead short than since there is speakers in doors why dont they short out head units?


They can / have / do short out head units.....

Before the days of factory baffles us old school installers would cover the top of the door speaker baskets with duct tape to prevent water from running into the voice coils and shorting out...

twocents.gif

at least we can see through his ignorance twocents.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (ClassOnGlass @ Oct 18 2009, 10:41 AM) [*]723989[/*]
QUOTE (MobileTintInc @ Oct 17 2009, 08:42 PM) [*]723965[/*]
DO that in the back of the audi s5 with the bang and olufsen speakers playing on video for me please I want to see it not blow anything up.



QUOTE (TTS @ Oct 17 2009, 09:41 PM) [*]723967[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 17 2009, 05:45 AM) [*]723865[/*]
if this was the case of a dead short than since there is speakers in doors why dont they short out head units?


They can / have / do short out head units.....

Before the days of factory baffles us old school installers would cover the top of the door speaker baskets with duct tape to prevent water from running into the voice coils and shorting out...

twocents.gif

at least we can see through his ignorance twocents.gif



i guess you didnt watch the video...no short

QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 17 2009, 10:25 AM) [*]723877[/*]
maybe would have tried to have it inverted?


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...ideoid=64276960



this video lol2.gif
mikeMN
Yea that speaker and its power supply in your retarded video is an EXACT match to the set up in the A5 RIGHT??? blahh.gif blahh.gif blahh.gif blahh.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (mikeMN @ Oct 19 2009, 09:20 AM) [*]724072[/*]
Yea that speaker and its power supply in your retarded video is an EXACT match to the set up in the A5 RIGHT??? blahh.gif blahh.gif blahh.gif blahh.gif



thats a amp jack a$$ you know your shiznit and the point was that it didnt fry from getting the voice coil wet..lol lol2.gif
blade
it's funny how after apologizing for being an azz you're still being one.






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