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SuperSetKing
Hey guys out there, I laid some 12 mil film a week ago, first time i have installed that thick of film. I sqeeged it out with my final strokes with a blue max, i was sweating and worn out in 40 degree weather, any how I went back a week later (yesterday) and I had a lot of water blisters left in it. looks like an amplified version of regular film drying. My question to you guys that have experience with thick sec film, is this normal? dose it take a bit longer to dry? it has been a bit cold and rainy. But even the one window that gets blasted with the sun half the day is looking the same.

let me know what you guys think. Holla!
SuperSetKing
anybody?? please.gif cold.gif wall.gif hmmmmmmm.gif
vzla-tint
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I sqeeged it out with my final strokes with a blue max


What did you use before the blue max?
WearTheFoxHat
Where to start?.... Too much slip will cause this issue.
Not enough overlap on passes with squeegee can cause this issue.Try to stick to around a third.
We hope your locking squeegee is 6" or less and not the blue max but the blue blade in channel type. These are different animals and oft interchanged in conversation.
You may want to look at getting Thor's Hammer (use the search function here at tintdude)

Just in case you hadn't noticed, thicker films require a LOT more effort in removing slip . Keep your efforts in removing slip right in that 2 foot square right in front of you. Use both hands on your tool. If you are working one handed at an arms length out or above you just can't put enough pressure down on the film.

Too many vertical passes with squeegee can also cause this issue.That pesky gravity stuff and a path for water to follow even with "good" overlaps (see above)
work together at making you look like a noob. Horizontal passes don't allow the water to move as far if you do happen to miss a spot.
vzla-tint
QUOTE (WearTheFoxHat @ Nov 1 2009, 11:52 AM) [*]726377[/*]
Where to start?.... Too much slip will cause this issue.
Not enough overlap on passes with squeegee can cause this issue.Try to stick to around a third.
We hope your locking squeegee is 6" or less and not the blue max but the blue blade in channel type. These are different animals and oft interchanged in conversation.
You may want to look at getting Thor's Hammer (use the search function here at tintdude)

Just in case you hadn't noticed, thicker films require a LOT more effort in removing slip . Keep your efforts in removing slip right in that 2 foot square right in front of you. Use both hands on your tool. If you are working one handed at an arms length out or above you just can't put enough pressure down on the film.

Too many vertical passes with squeegee can also cause this issue.That pesky gravity stuff and a path for water to follow even with "good" overlaps (see above)
work together at making you look like a noob. Horizontal passes don't allow the water to move as far if you do happen to miss a spot.




That pretty much covers it all....

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EWF
Dear Mr. Wearthefoxhat,

Superb !! Bravo !! Spot-On !! Excellent !!

I cringe every time we ship a roll of heavy gauge to an installer who has not worked with it in the past. We designed a box insert which included many of your tips. It takes a considerable amount of practice until you are good at it. You also need to "eat your Wheaties". A full day spent installing heavy gauge film is like running a marathon. Dealers who routinely install heavy gauge films get top dollar and deserve every nickel.

Don't forget, sputtered films also present challenges along the same lines. We refer to these as Low-MVTR films (Moisture Vapor Transmission Rate). If you want to avoid callbacks from angry customers with foggy windows, take heed !!!

Again, a terrific post!! Great job !!

Regards,

Howard
Limo Tint Larry
I'm surprised whoever sold it to you didnt ask if you were familiar with it.
Tintim
QUOTE (WearTheFoxHat @ Nov 1 2009, 08:52 AM) [*]726377[/*]
Where to start?.... Too much slip will cause this issue.
Not enough overlap on passes with squeegee can cause this issue.Try to stick to around a third.
We hope your locking squeegee is 6" or less and not the blue max but the blue blade in channel type. These are different animals and oft interchanged in conversation.
You may want to look at getting Thor's Hammer (use the search function here at tintdude)

Just in case you hadn't noticed, thicker films require a LOT more effort in removing slip . Keep your efforts in removing slip right in that 2 foot square right in front of you. Use both hands on your tool. If you are working one handed at an arms length out or above you just can't put enough pressure down on the film.

Too many vertical passes with squeegee can also cause this issue.That pesky gravity stuff and a path for water to follow even with "good" overlaps (see above)
work together at making you look like a noob. Horizontal passes don't allow the water to move as far if you do happen to miss a spot.


Spot On.

Only fitted this to cars but one thing I'd add is to have your pattern of removing slip worked out before hand and stick to it. SOme hazy marks do dry out but real bad ones don't. You don't need the gym after doing this all day.






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