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toodark
Where does everone get thier 12V from? Under dash or under hood? I have done them both ways, trying to figure which is the best. When I was trained, the installer I was traing with went under dash.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
it easiest to get it from under stearing colum since most conection are made at this point...like door triggers, trunk pops and all other conection which car you talking about working on or is this open...to cars in general?
toodark
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 30 2009, 01:29 PM) [*]726162[/*]
it easiest to get it from under stearing colum since most conection are made at this point...like door triggers, trunk pops and all other conection which car you talking about working on or is this open...to cars in general?


This is open to all cars in general. 99% of the cars I have done under dash with all other connects, but there have been a few installers saying this is the rookie way to install. I was just looking to other installers to see the way they are doing their installs.
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (toodark @ Oct 30 2009, 03:09 PM) [*]726172[/*]
QUOTE (Jeff Rutherford Jax fl. @ Oct 30 2009, 01:29 PM) [*]726162[/*]
it easiest to get it from under stearing colum since most conection are made at this point...like door triggers, trunk pops and all other conection which car you talking about working on or is this open...to cars in general?


This is open to all cars in general. 99% of the cars I have done under dash with all other connects, but there have been a few installers saying this is the rookie way to install. I was just looking to other installers to see the way they are doing their installs.




direct wire gives you a print out of all lead/connects everone i ever saw majority of you leads are at the kick pannels on the drivers side. you can always use this info from directwire to plan attack(since it says where what is)...i say "they are pulling your chain" you are new so i say they are "just messing with ya" it happens just dont fall for it....we all know that every car is different, but theres always that one percent. i think that all the new cars are getting so easy...your able to flash mods so that they only talk threw 1 data wire.... its going to be easier than installing a car radio one day in the near future.

i wouldnt take it to heart at all, but this shouldnt have to be asked...not trying to offend you....i would never install any alarm/ remote start straight to a bettery.. NEVER!
toodark



I have been doing RS for about 10yrs now and I have done all the 12V from under dash. I moved to Co and a few of the installers I have talked to here are going from battery for 12V and neg and said that is the "only" way to install RS. Like I said I have done 1000's with out any problems using 12V from under dash. I have been using wiremagic and they list all the locations also.
TTS
TooDark... There are pros and cons of where to grab your main power for both locations.

I prefer to wire my 'security' systems direct to the battery because doing it that way (1) provides greater security and (2) provides a easy place for a customer to 'pull the fuse' in case the alarm goes haywire or in case of a 'no start' situation. The remote start portion I usually wire to the ignition switch (as all a remote start does is duplicate the ignition switch).

When I was with a local 50+ stereo store chain their 'minimum installation standards' demanded installers pulled security power and ground direct from the battery. twocents.gif
Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (TTS @ Oct 30 2009, 08:31 PM) [*]726195[/*]
TooDark... There are pros and cons of where to grab your main power for both locations.

I prefer to wire my 'security' systems direct to the battery because doing it that way (1) provides greater security and (2) provides a easy place for a customer to 'pull the fuse' in case the alarm goes haywire or in case of a 'no start' situation. The remote start portion I usually wire to the ignition switch (as all a remote start does is duplicate the ignition switch).

When I was with a local 50+ stereo store chain their 'minimum installation standards' demanded installers pulled security power and ground direct from the battery. twocents.gif



lol..i geauss the fuse box of car doesnt have a direct connect to the battery... lol2.gif
and if there is a problem with it not starting and fuse is puled, its still not going to start because of the starter kill...if install proper the starter wire is cut and ran trew the brain of the alarm...no power to the brain of a alarm and you will not even be abls to work a vallet
TTS
What the FOK Jeff ?? are you HIGH ??? blink.gif

FIRST OFF - MOST starter disable relays are wired in N.C. so 'IF' the alarm malfunctions and is triggering relay when it shouldn't then pulling power to the alarm will 'disable' the starter kill relay. The only alarm manufacture that 'historically' used a N.O. starter kill circuit and REQUIRED power to the brain is the older code alarms (pre-audiovox purchase)

SECOND - If you have been in the industry for more than a summer then you will know a VERY common way people try to 'disable' security systems in vehicles is to cut the battery cable from under the car causing the fuse box to go dead. IF a person wires his power and ground to the battery direct and keeps the wires up high then the alarm will STILL have power.


Why do you continue to be a jackhole and not take 'advice' or 'suggestions' as just that ??



Booms2Go
QUOTE (TTS @ Oct 31 2009, 10:09 PM) [*]726350[/*]
If you have been in the industry for more than a summer............

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Jeff Rutherford Jax fl.
QUOTE (TTS @ Oct 31 2009, 09:09 PM) [*]726350[/*]
What the FOK Jeff ?? are you HIGH ??? blink.gif

FIRST OFF - MOST starter disable relays are wired in N.C. so 'IF' the alarm malfunctions and is triggering relay when it shouldn't then pulling power to the alarm will 'disable' the starter kill relay. The only alarm manufacture that 'historically' used a N.O. starter kill circuit and REQUIRED power to the brain is the older code alarms (pre-audiovox purchase)

SECOND - If you have been in the industry for more than a summer then you will know a VERY common way people try to 'disable' security systems in vehicles is to cut the battery cable from under the car causing the fuse box to go dead. IF a person wires his power and ground to the battery direct and keeps the wires up high then the alarm will STILL have power.


Why do you continue to be a jackhole and not take 'advice' or 'suggestions' as just that ??


i geuss those cheap code alarms dont come with the battery built in to the sirien..most of them have to have a key to disable the sirien..lol...thats so 80's...ill stick to my viper/dei and auto page alarms...since they are so much better than your code alarm...lmao

the first remote start i did 11 years ago...that summer thing was funny though
JayZTint
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