True Black New % Avaliable

Dont know if anyone else noticed but it Looks like Howard is offering some new %'s for his true black line I just noticed today he is offering 15% and 42%


Maybe he will have a 30% sometime in the near future.

I didn't notice

A 30% would be great the 35% is so light I had a few people come back saying TB 35% was to light. I like the look of a nice 30%.

If you like a nice Black 30% try Johnson's MN30.

Does MN stand for marathon?I saw a pic of a vette with johnson's marathon 30/20 and like the color.Where could I get some?

I think all johnsons auto films are too expensive for their quality and workability, or lack there of.

Maybe one day you'll find a manny/converter/reseller out there that will pay you to install their product. Will that be in your price range?

when theres comparable films on the marker for less than half of what their films cost, then why spend more? A lifetime dyed is a lifetime dyed no matter who you get it from. Same reason I stopped selling SG, it was too expensive. All the customer cares about is the price, not what you put on. Fill out the warranty card and give them the receipt and have no worries.

Johnson would be a good start

you left out screen your calls...

Unless it happens to be a 350z

he didn't get a warranty card since it was a special order SG film, and I don't carry their films anymore so I don't have any warranty cards for them.

So true to the name!!!!!................

well I haven't ordered in like 2 weeks, so I don't just randomly check film websites to see if they release a new film, since that happens SO often....

i wonder why they went with 42% instead of just 40% ?? and the 15% would be nice to have something between the 5 and 20%

Yeah why have 35% to 42% to 50%,but then have a jump from 20% to 35%.Would like to have a 28% or 30%.Howard says he has them made to his specs.

The MOQ = 50,000 sq/ft.

We're logging every request that comes in. As soon as the demand approaches critical mass, we'll press the "launch button".

-Howard

i guess I'm a small time company, but still the numbers involved in even small time film production are huge

i think i will try out a 50ft roll of the 42%, that may be better to go with just to make sure its in the safe zone. i like the look of the 35, but would like to have something a tad lighter, i will give it a shot

Who is this HOward speak of? does he have a webpage?

buytint.com

Yeah I checked it out and I too noticed that the %'s that you speak of are on there. The 43% for me will be good if VA changes to net instead of film. for rear windows.

Pman

has anyone been using the 42% yet?? I have done 2-3 vehciles with it and the 42 is sweet looking, its just a tad darker than using my 50%. Just wanted to get some feedback on others using it. I am hopeing that Howard with come up with some 55 or 57% film in the future!

I din't know they carried 42% in true black.

apparently based on this thread it just came out not too long ago.

I ordered a roll of it back about a month ago, it hasn't been out that long. but i know its going to be one that i will be using alot of, that and 50

Ok so whats the deal with the warranty not picking up for the first 90 days? Id like to try some of the 42% but i dont know with whole odd ball warranty deal. Howard can you chime in here when you get time?

i can assure you he won't let you down, true black is a very good product

I never actually read the warranty card until this post, and never saw that part

My guess would be that its enough time for any water to dry out of the film, even in really cold weather, so there are no "false" warranty claims due the the haziness or anything like that. Also, its enough time to iron out any installation issues that may warranty a redo, so that it doesn't peel or anything that could also warrant a false claim.

Really though, what film is going to fail in the first 90 days?

I would be curious to hear the reasoning behind it though too

You're exactly right. There is virtually a 0% chance that the film would fail within the first 90 days. However, if there were some undetected/catastrophic deficiency in the product we would certainly get you and that customer taken care of cheerfully and without delay.

Many installers might not be aware of it, but it is not all that unusual for retail customers to contact the manufacturer directly (shortly after the application) and inquire about minor installation related observations like tiny bubbles, seams, dot matrix issues, daylight gaps, haziness, etc. We want your customers to be patient, allow the film to dry (regardless of the season) and if they have never driven a vehicle before with film on it, to get used to it. 90 days gives them a chance to "settle in".

I realize that it's not a mainstream practice in the industry, but innovation is what we are all about at EWF. I would not be surprised if another major manufacturer followed suit at some point in the future. They must get the same calls that we do.

So then, for the record:

It's a "soft" 90 days. If there is a bona-fide problem, you have my word that we will cover it.

-Howard

where are you guys seeing the other % for true black i just checked the web site and only 50 35 20 and 5 there

you must be looking at the True Smoke.

TB on buytint.com is in 50,42,35,20,15 and 5

where in price list its not there man

go to order online now. i don't think the price list is updated

You can order the 15% and 42% online now. The developers are working on the associated page updates as part of a major overhaul for that site.

-Howard

Hey howard.....when are we going to be able to get our hands on some TB thats above 50% VLT????

When enough people request it. He's said before as with these new films, there has to be a certain demand, since he has to order 50,000 squares at a time

We can have the films run in any VLT you guys require, but it's subject to an MOQ of 50,000 sq/ft.

We log every request that comes in here. As soon as the cumulative demand reaches critical mass, I'll pull the trigger.

-Howard

I just ordered some 15% can wait for it to arive i have been getting more request for 15% here! Im stayin real busy now that i have new a frame sign up and keeping my carport clean/looking as professional as i can I also followed your advice scotty about how to handle the film with better care and control literally almost spec free on roll up plus stans shaving methods on roll up...im killing my competition

keep up the hard work man

sounds like your doing real well, as good as I am I'm happy since I booked two big FG jobs this week, so its a good start to the year. These two jobs are about what I made all of last january and then some

ps- how did I tell you to handle the film for the sides I don't remember? Just like peel it and pick it up and over real quick? or what lmfao

Got my sample of 20% in today box looked like it had been through a war zone. Film isnt jacked up tha bad just a couple of marks.
I hope to get a chance to try it out this afternoon.

They seem to use really thin funky boxes... I had a 60" roll of film I ordered from them split totally in half and ruined the roll...

They didn't even hesitate to ship out a replacement roll... but it did cause a delay in the job that kinda left a bad taste in my mouth when it could have been avoided with better packaging

Now the black Global boxes... those things are pretty awesome!

Really, the boxes aren't that thin. The only film I've ever ordered in a 60" that was strong and not bendy was Global too. Howards boxes are relatively strong and stiff, as can be seen when you open the roll and the lid/flap is extremely tough and rigid to flip around to the back. Its just that UPS is not very careful with their boxes, and once you get a kink in one side of the box, it loses all its structural integrity after that point. I have a few that have one small crease, and no matter where I pick it up from it buckles at that point.

Sometimes its nice to have clean and perfect boxes like Global comes in, but then again its going to get thrown away and noone is going to see the box I've never had one as jacked as the one in the picture, but the film still looks like it will be perfectly fine, since its rolled liner out. Even if you lost that 4" in the corner, its not a big deal on auto film

ps- i like the ghetto tape job UPS did to put it back together

Unfortunately there isn't a box strong enough that a truck driver can't destroy!

funny.... we have ordered hundreds of boxes of film over the years... and the only ones to come in severly damaged are the ones from Express

Scotty... scoot along as once again you don't have a firm grasp on what you are talking about

I talked to Howard about it a year or so ago... and his answer was that packaging the film in a better box would add a couple dollars to the sell price of the film....
I personally would have gladly paid the couple extra, known the stuff would show up in good shape and collected for the job on time

well I personally have never gotten a "damaged" box from anyone, just Express boxes as my SG boxers were too, once they got kinked they lost all their rigidity

yeah mine havnt been damaged at all! A mark here or there! But you cant blame that at all on EPW so blame fedex or ups who ever is to blame, depending on which is shipped through!