defrost lines

well i have just started doing this and it works like a charm.
U know how there is always a little bit of air on the top and botton of each defrost line... well i think i have come up with a solution. what i do is take a blue elmers glue stick and on each side of the window swipe it up all the defrost lines and then down all deforst lines, and what this does is puts a little glob of glue on the top and the bottom of the deforst line on each side. then lay the film and blue max it out to the sides. and it pushes all the O2 out and the little glue globs seal the deforst lines and no O2 can get back in... trust me it works great

havnt tried glue for anything yet but this sounds good

i thought glue voids warrenties??

Film doesn't last forever despite what the manufacturers say...So what difference does it make if it holds up better than some films?

most people don't care about the little 'white' edge ontop and bottom, but hey, the things we do with spare time huh??

This recommendation coming from the same people who tell you their film lasts a lifetime.

Oh but OT...

You should see what that glue looks like compared to the film and its adhesive after it has spent time in the Xenon accelerated weathering machine, which mimics Florida climate variations, day and night.

Not good... It says on the packages not to expose to extreme heat or allow to freeze. Gets all crusty when used on paper... what do ya think it does under film.

But hey, you go right ahead...

Like Zro said, there ARE other things to worry over than defroster lines, which are another thing out of an installers control.

I have to admit though, it is a concept worth trying, if, and only if, it was done where the light don't shine.

And the film itself looks fantastic after going through the same process? And Vinyl looks fantastic after the same process? And this is far from Florida conditions where I am at. They should use the same principles on their film, be a little more realistic concerning warranty. With all this research, how do they get premature film failure???? Must be the slip solution, the glue, the time of day etc....

Fantastic depends upon the number of hours spent exposed. I do agree with the need for realistic warranties for all films, too.

Premature adhesive failure still plagues many a film maker, sometimes it does not show through research methods prior to presentation to the supply system.

For instance, the inconsistency in adhesive grainy and not so grainy. A mystery not so easily solved through research. Nuff said.

Florida climate is the extreme in heat and humidity... humidity plays a major role in life expectancy, too.

I'll just continue "living on the edge" with an occasional dab of glue on the 20% or so matrix I can't get with prep/sand/heat, over vinyl. Call me a rebel.

It sounds like a lot of extra work. Though, I can see it used on the problem cars with thick lines like the Beemers.

the difference (imo) is this. the amount of actual sunlight that the material on the matrix is exposed to (glue or vinyl) is minimal compared to a complete window. specifically, the area between the dots is the only place the the material gets exposed to the sunlight. so HEAT plays an important factor.. i could see the glue crusting up years later from the heat, or from freezing.. as for finyl, who knows. lettering stays on signs and vehicles for a while, but who knows how long it lasts.. in the end it's each to his/her own (but i would like to see some research results of vinyl (different types/brands) in the 'florida room')

Did it a few years ago... but it was in the machine for time period approximate to one year exposure. It did nothing but sit and look like black vinyl.

Good point, though... because vinyl isn't always used adhesive side facing the sun. The adhesive on vinyl is much more aggressive than PS for film... one can only surmise that it would far out last PS. The vinyl... well it'll just be more brittle with time.

Maybe time to look at iit again for longer exposure period.

not like it matters much, this world and all the works in it will be burned up.

And don't forget the reflection off a full moon OT. That's a big factor too you know.
Devil