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This should start a little debating...:gasp I got this e-mail, for better or worse, here it is.................

WHAT SENATOR JOHN GLENN SAID :

Things that make you think a little:

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.

In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the

month of January. That's just one American city,

about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.

When some claim that President Bush shouldn't

have started this war, state the following:

a. FDR led us into World War II.

b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did.

>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ...

an average of 112,500 per year.

c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea.

North Korea never attacked us.

>From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ..

an average of 18,334 per year.

d. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.

Vietnam never attacked us.

e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.

>From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost .

an average of 5,800 per year.

f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.

Bosnia never attacked us.

He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three

times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on

multiple occasions.

g. In the years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush

has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled

al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran, and North

Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who

slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

The Democrats are complaining

about how long the war is taking.

But ..

It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno

to take the Branch Davidian compound.

That was a 51-day operation.

We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons

in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find

the Rose Law Firm billing records.

It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the

Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard

than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his

Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick

It took less time to take Iraq than it took

to count the votes in Florida!!!!

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB!

The Military morale is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant

to realize the facts.

But Wait. There's more!

JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR)

Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13

Some people still don't understand why military personnel

do what they do for a living. This exchange between

Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum

is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive

impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one

man's explanation of why men and women in the armed

services do what they do for a living.

This IS a typical, though sad, example of what

some who have never served think of the military.

Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):

"How can you run for Senate

when you've never held a real job?"

Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):

"I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps.

I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions.

My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different

occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my

checkbook, Howard, it was my life on the line. It was

not a nine-to-five job, where I took my tie off to take the

daily cash receipts to the bank."

"I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day...

to a veterans' hospital and look those men ...

with their mangled bodies in the eye, and tell THEM

they didn't hold a job!

You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go,

as I have gone, to the widows and orphans

of Ed White, Gus Grissom, and Roger Chaffee...

and you look those kids in the eye and tell them

that their DADS didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day, and you stand in

Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends

buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch

those waving flags

You stand there, and you think about this nation,

and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

What about you?"

For those who don't remember ..

During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney

representing the Communist Party in the USA.

Now he's a Senator!

If you can read this, thank a teacher.

If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.

It might not be a bad idea to keep this circulating.

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some very interesting points, some with a few "twists" to make into appropriate comparisons. a few I dont nessecarily agree with. I highly doubt military morale is high. that would be a scary thought that theres that many people in the world who solely took a job for no other reason to k!ll. not even I have had that many bad days. my impression was a lot of people nowadays never really expected to go to war to the extreme we have. most expect the paycheck, and hope to promote to a desk (nondeploying position) and/or pay their tuition, feed their famillies with 4 years job security.

it seems the author, like the govmt. left out the other motives of going to/not going to war....you know the ones we as an average joe citizen would ever eaven fathom. most people give them selves more credit in the brain dept, than they should. we dont know what goes on behind every closed door.

obviously written by a repubican (im speculatin as im not one for oraganized parties). funny how he selectively left out star wars and panama during the ronny ray gun years, or the threat of war over the berlin wall, again during the regan years. seems the cuban missle crisis was a big fight ready to happen that seemed to be handled relatively well by a democrat (even though I still cant buy a cuban cigar without sucking on contraband, but a fair trade(to be honest I dont even know if the two are related)) how bout the WAR ON Dr*gs (capitalized for sarcasm) seems to me that there were plenty of columbian dr*g raids on foreign soil that we shouldnt have been on in the first place. that was during georgie seniors reign. cant those be considered acts of war? but again I say, theres plenty of reasons that we'll never know about, and I would be willing to bet there were other targets than just Dr*gs.

as a us citizen who lost his dad 2mos before he was born to the military. id pop anyone in the mouth, who didnt consider it a job. it seems a double edged sword. which is the tougher job putting your life on the line, or taking someone elses just because they equally believe in the flip side of the coin.

I prey I will never know.

I dont ever want to know.

I think a lot of the hush hush reasons we go to war may hold some answers to that question.

but you know what,

I still want to know.

I know I advocate anger as being a good motivator, but with ignorance comes fear, and fear is what keeps most of us on the straight and narrow, regardless of what our culture, religion, or political origin is.

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