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Had a customer come back 3 years later with a car that we had installed Quantum 14 on. The rear windows were all crazed, looked like a spider laid it's web all over inbetween the film and glass. This is the third time I have seen this in the past four years. On this vehicle you couldn't even see out of the window.

Called the dist. and he says "wow I've never seen that before." (typical response) "are you sure it's quantum.?" Yes I have a warranty card with the roll number on it. "Can you send us a sample of that when you remove it." :beer

We don't even carry SG film anymore. Are we liable for the warranty? We are going to do it anyway because it is a repeat customer.

You know damn well when they get the sample they are just going to throw it in the trash. I think asking for a sample is like trying to call a bluff. :beer

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I used that years ago, used to take 6 months to dry!!!

Quantum uses titanium right?

If so, the reason it takes so darn long to dry is that due to it's particle size, the titanium clogs the pores in the PET layer when it is deposited in the sputtering process. This creates a dense vapor barier in which it is hard for the water to escape and thus the film to dry. Some mfg's have figured this out and that is why they stopped using titanium.

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My old shop was a SG dealer and I have seen every type of SG film go bad over the years(delamination, peeling edges, out-right film failure, you name it) SGs response was always the same , to much water left in windows or the adhesive went bad or some other excuse. Once we stopped ordering film from them(around 180k a year :DD ) then they took some of the blame and now they use it again but they also now use 3m sooner or later there is always a bad batch :lol2

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I used that years ago, used to take 6 months to dry!!!

Quantum uses titanium right?

If so, the reason it takes so darn long to dry is that due to it's particle size, the titanium clogs the pores in the PET layer when it is deposited in the sputtering process. This creates a dense vapor barier in which it is hard for the water to escape and thus the film to dry. Some mfg's have figured this out and that is why they stopped using titanium.

quantum is aluminum based iirc

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I used that years ago, used to take 6 months to dry!!!

Quantum uses titanium right?

If so, the reason it takes so darn long to dry is that due to it's particle size, the titanium clogs the pores in the PET layer when it is deposited in the sputtering process. This creates a dense vapor barier in which it is hard for the water to escape and thus the film to dry. Some mfg's have figured this out and that is why they stopped using titanium.

quantum is aluminum based iirc

:DD So much for my theory.

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I used that years ago, used to take 6 months to dry!!!

Quantum uses titanium right?

If so, the reason it takes so darn long to dry is that due to it's particle size, the titanium clogs the pores in the PET layer when it is deposited in the sputtering process. This creates a dense vapor barier in which it is hard for the water to escape and thus the film to dry. Some mfg's have figured this out and that is why they stopped using titanium.

quantum is aluminum based iirc

:DD So much for my theory.

you tried :DD:lol2

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I used that years ago, used to take 6 months to dry!!!

Quantum uses titanium right?

If so, the reason it takes so darn long to dry is that due to it's particle size, the titanium clogs the pores in the PET layer when it is deposited in the sputtering process. This creates a dense vapor barier in which it is hard for the water to escape and thus the film to dry. Some mfg's have figured this out and that is why they stopped using titanium.

isn't there somebody clogging "ceramic papa" with titanium nitride on some of dat new high-tek buzzword shizzle

and I thought Q was two plies of sputtered ni-chrome

...with their famous laminating adhesive :beer

:)

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I used that years ago, used to take 6 months to dry!!!

Quantum uses titanium right?

If so, the reason it takes so darn long to dry is that due to it's particle size, the titanium clogs the pores in the PET layer when it is deposited in the sputtering process. This creates a dense vapor barier in which it is hard for the water to escape and thus the film to dry. Some mfg's have figured this out and that is why they stopped using titanium.

isn't there somebody clogging "ceramic papa" with titanium nitride on some of dat new high-tek buzzword shizzle

and I thought Q was two plies of sputtered ni-chrome

...with their famous laminating adhesive :)

:lol2

:beer Somebody call a chemist! The nitride might increase the size of the titanium atom but that's a big ol wild guess on my part. :lol2

Ceramic takes a while to dry, that's why it is best to get as much whata out as possible.

Here's Bekaert's speel on Quantum, pretty vague -imo.

Quantum HP Films

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