ATR 20 vs ATF 18

[Guest scooter996]

Thanks for the great answers on the last question and I have 1 more. I went to my local Llumar dealer and they had samples of all of their products. May I add, way too many to choose from. Thanks for steering me away from the Formula one.While there I liked the ATR 20 CH SR HPR and the ATR 18 ST SR HPR. First off are they good films to begin with and what do all those letters mean? Again the car sits outside all year long in the sun. No room in the garage. It appears # wise the 18 rejects more soar energy 62 vs. 48? Can I read that as it rejects more heat than the ATR 20. And has a more reflective surface 12% vs 8%. Heres where I am getting the numbers from and if the tints are so darn close why make 2 similar products. PLease tell me if I am wrong. I am just a consumer trying to understand or shed some light on tint.

I couldnt even find the ATR 18 ST on their chart. Is this an old outdated chart?

http://www.llumar.com/inteng/PDF/auto%20spec%20sheet.pdf

[Guest vclimber]

ATR= "Auto Tint Reflective"

CH= "Charcoal"

HPR= "High Performance Resin"

There is no ATR 18 I think you have it mixed up with Llumar Stealth 18.

[HarveyD]

Thanks for the great answers on the last question and I have 1 more. I went to my local Llumar dealer and they had samples of all of their products. May I add, way too many to choose from. Thanks for steering me away from the Formula one.While there I liked the ATR 20 CH SR HPR and the ATR 18 ST SR HPR. First off are they good films to begin with and what do all those letters mean? Again the car sits outside all year long in the sun. No room in the garage. It appears # wise the 18 rejects more soar energy 62 vs. 48? Can I read that as it rejects more heat than the ATR 20. And has a more reflective surface 12% vs 8%. Heres where I am getting the numbers from and if the tints are so darn close why make 2 similar products. PLease tell me if I am wrong. I am just a consumer trying to understand or shed some light on tint.

I couldnt even find the ATR 18 ST on their chart. Is this an old outdated chart?

http://www.llumar.com/inteng/PDF/auto%20spec%20sheet.pdf

You would be well served with Formula One but the advice was to stay away from the entry level Classic Series. We recommend the Premier, Ultimate, or Pinnacle Series.

[Guest scooter996]

So is the Stealth still used or have installers gone mostly with the ATR CH? I just found a thread in here about the Stealth peeling and flaking after a few years. I dont have a problem with the Formula One but what I have read in here is why pay for name why Llumar has quailty products as well. I used to the upsell. I work for Mobil so we do it all day long. SO if I want a 20% Ill have to go with the Premier? I just want a quality film, no $99 tint jobs as you guys say.

Is the ATR CH a quality film that will last 5 Years?

[Guest vclimber]

So is the Stealth still used or have installers gone mostly with the ATR CH? I just found a thread in here about the Stealth peeling and flaking after a few years. I dont have a problem with the Formula One but what I have read in here is why pay for name why Llumar has quailty products as well. I used to the upsell. I work for Mobil so we do it all day long. SO if I want a 20% Ill have to go with the Premier? I just want a quality film, no $99 tint jobs as you guys say.

Is the ATR CH a quality film that will last 5 Years?

Stealth is a lot more reflective than ATR that is why ATR is a big seller for us. F1 Pinnacle is worth the $$$ if you like the look, it's not just an upsell there are a few differences. Llumar has it's upsell, if you like to call it that, as well. It is called Axess (ATX). Either of these films are quality you can't go wrong, they have warranties to cover the product. I would worry more about who is installing them.

[Guest FilmBlazer]

There is an ATR 15

[Guest darkdan]

ATR Stealth and ATR Charcoal are different.

You want the charcoal because it lasts longer.

[Guest scooter996]

I want the color gray or a blackish color with some reflective. I have SolarGard HP Charcoal 35 on one car. Which product would be similar to that? I dont car for the green tint color. I do appreciate all your guys help. Does the Stelath still peel off the car like Mdog talks about? I keep reading its bad. Whats the average OEM tint-metered- on a clear window just out of curosity?

[Guest scooter996]

Stealth is a lot more reflective than ATR that is why ATR is a big seller for us. F1 Pinnacle is worth the $$$ if you like the look, it's not just an upsell there are a few differences. Llumar has it's upsell, if you like to call it that, as well. It is called Axess (ATX). Either of these films are quality you can't go wrong, they have warranties to cover the product. I would worry more about who is installing them.

When you say "LOOK" what type of look is it? they dont have a great web site when it comes to pictures for the different shades or tints. Are they a greenish tone or black or gray?

[Guest vclimber]

When you say "LOOK" what type of look is it? they dont have a great web site when it comes to pictures for the different shades or tints. Are they a greenish tone or black or gray?

Look= Reflective or non-Reflective, Greenish (ATR is Greenish -imo), Earthtone, Grey, Ect...